Place your bets: Age of Ultron vs The Force Awakens

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CloudWolf

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Star wars doesn't have a global presence like marvel superhero movies.
Do you live on a different planet than we do? Star Wars has been one of the biggest things in the world for the last 30 years. Even without movies, Star Wars merchandise is extremely popular.
 

Cagey

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I assume star wars will make more money, but it'll certainly be the better movie.

Attack of the Clones was more enjoyable than most every damn comic book movie I've seen. Iron Man 1 being the exception.
 

CloudWolf

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Wow really? Didn't know they did that for re-releases.

So I was right.

But comparisons like this are probably useless anyway, considering the fact that movies as a whole have been making a lot more money now than in the past. These past few years have been filled with 'record-breaking' opening weekends and highest-grossing movies. Would something like The Avengers have made 1.5 billion in 1999? It's highly unlikely.
 

BLACKLAC

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The point is even with awful films with characters no one likes Star Wars baseline is 1 billion. This on the other-hand has a lot more well liked characters and setting.

Jeez you are still on this faulty logic.

Episode 1 didn't come close to Titanic. Done.
 
It's like people don't understand how inflation works in this thread.

So you're saying they should make Titanic 2 and it'll make 5 billion?

Seriously, you guys talk about money, I'm making sense. The Marvel movies have THREE huge movie series happening at the same time teamed up in one movie series, and it's already proven.

Star Wars only has itself going for it, and that's not enough to topple the hype of FOUR blockbusters.

But comparisons like this are probably useless anyway, considering the fact that movies as a whole have been making a lot more money now than in the past. These past few years have been filled with 'record-breaking' opening weekends and highest-grossing movies. Would something like The Avengers have made 1.5 billion in 1999? It's highly unlikely.

You really seriously want to account for inflation? Because it's been done and Gone with the Wind 2 should be made.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm
 

mm04

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It's like people don't understand how inflation works in this thread.

Pretty much. If the Star Wars movie is even remotely good, it's going to be the biggest movie of the year. Avengers has an advantage in that most people can expect a certain quality from it. But Star Wars will have an immense amount of hype. And if early reviews are favorable, it'll be the highest grossing movie of the year.
 

Jarmel

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So you're saying they should make Titanic 2 and it'll make 5 billion?

Seriously, you guys talk about money, I'm making sense. The Marvel movies have THREE huge movie series happening at the same time teamed up in one movie series, and it's already proven.

Star Wars only has itself going for it, and that's not enough to topple the hype of FOUR blockbusters.

Well considering how much Avatar 2 is poised to make...

The billion mark isn't that impressive nowadays when you have stuff like 3D and IMAX. Phantom Menace almost pulled it off, even not taking into account inflation, without 3D in 1999 when it was almost unheard of. It's easily a billion dollar franchise. Easily.

Even now, Star Wars grosses an absurd amount of money. I wouldn't be surprised if even before the first movie hits, that Disney already made back the money they spent on the acquisition of LA. As stated earlier, you have a popular director working with the writer who helped make Empire Strikes Back along with the return of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo. Any damage due to the prequels is already being shrugged off.

The big question is the reviews.
 

X05

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It's like people don't understand how inflation works in this thread.
Taking inflation into account makes sense if you are only talking about domestic, not so much WW.
If only studios took the sane option that is ticket sales instead....

That's weird i thought 3D re-releases got counted separately. Wonder how much the 3D version added to the Lion King then.
I don't think any 3D re-release has been counted separately, at least domestically.
 

AMUSIX

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most money? The Force Awakens, it has a LOT less competition around its release, and will pretty much have the first months of 2016 to itself

better film? Really don't know. I'm tempted to say Age of Ultron because I've been pleased with everything I've heard about it. Whedon vs Abrams is pretty much a push for me, and Star Wars has a big hill to climb.

which would you go see first? If they came out on the same day, the showtimes would determine which I'd see first. I'd honestly decide to spend the day at the movies and see both the same day...although a midnight showing of Star Wars would be fun to go to, just for old time's sake.

any other 2015 film?
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right?

Kingdom Hearts? Haven't played a Kingdom Hearts since the first one...probably should at some point.
 

Jarmel

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Taking inflation into account makes sense if you are only talking about domestic, not so much WW.
If only studios took the sane option that is ticket sales instead....

Domestic is still by far the most important market. International markets are trickier as their importance has increased in the past twenty years in gross.
You really seriously want to account for inflation? Because it's been done and Gone with the Wind 2 should be made.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

I doubt many directors would even want to try to make a sequel and Gone with the Wind is a dead franchise. Well dead in the sense that there isn't any ongoing aspects with it. Same with Titanic and a number of other releases on that list. That's not even taking into account how stupid it would be to make sequel to any of those.
 

wondermega

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It's difficult to project, but I anticipate that Star Wars is gonna be Ultron's bitch. Simply because of kids - Marvel is dominating the juvenile consciousness right now (well, compared to SW). And enough adults are lapping it up as well. Look at the runoff money that Iron Man 3 made in 2013!

SW will still be huge. It might even be close. Better film though? That's tough. I didn't even see the last two Star Warses so I cannot judge. FX aside I didn't care much for Avengers, but we live in a post-Winter Soldier world now (excellent film, in my eyes). I'm gonna guess it's a draw.

This should be an interesting year for film, for sure.
 

Tobor

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I think it's going to be close enough to not matter. Disney wins.

As for quality, I think Avengers will take the crown. Whedon has a killer story and villain, and if he lands the execution, he's got this.
 

T'Zariah

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Still though.

You all think AoU will break the first films 207 million dollar opening?

I know don't bet against Marvel,

But that's fucking crazy talk.

That film is the definition of overperforming.
 
Wow people are crazy on this thread. Has any single Star Wars movie grossed more than The Avengers 1?!

And regards to quality, did you guys not learn from Phantom Menace or episode 1-3 at all?! This new Star Wars is magically going to be top notch quality?
 
Still though.

You all think AoU will break the first films 207 million dollar opening?

I know don't bet against Marvel,

But that's fucking crazy talk.

That film is the definition of overperforming.

Avengers did it seemingly out of nowhere, i think they have a very good chance at breaking it if they can get enough screenings in.
 

CloudWolf

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Wow people are crazy on this thread. Has any single Star Wars movie grossed more than The Avengers 1?!

And regards to quality, did you guys not learn from Phantom Menace or episode 1-3 at all?! This new Star Wars is magically going to be top notch quality?
1. You can't really compare the revenue of any Star Wars movie with a Marvel movie since the Marvel movies were released in a time where big blockbuster movies make a hell of a lot more money than they used to.

2. You can't really say anything about the quality of the new SW movies based on the prequels. The new movies have different producers, different writers, different directors, different everything.
Also, they have the Millennium Falcon and are therefore already far superior to the prequels.
 

BLACKLAC

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1. You can't really compare the revenue of any Star Wars movie with a Marvel movie since the Marvel movies were released in a time where big blockbuster movies make a hell of a lot more money than they used to.

You can compare it to Titanic though.

for the sake of curiosity i looked up the trailer/teaser views in different languages

German it's 7:1 for Avengers
French: 1.25:1 for Avengers
Italian: 10:1 for Avengers

Yup. These people don't know what's coming.
 
Star Wars DOUBLED the teaser views Avengers Age of Ultron got. Think about that for a second.

This one is easy.

for the sake of curiosity i looked up the trailer/teaser views in different languages

German it's 7:1 for Avengers
French: 1.25:1 for Avengers
Italian: 10:1 for Avengers
 
You can compare it to Titanic though.

To be fair you can't compare anything these days to titanic except for the avatar sequel I imagine

Avengers 2 ain't touching it either

Star Wars hype is gonna be crazy. Even when avengers was as big as it was I didn't feel that phantom menace hype.
 

kswiston

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To be fair you can't compare anything these days to titanic except for avatar 2 I imagine

Avengers 2 ain't touching it either

Titanic and E.T. are about tied as the highest grossing domestic films of all time adjusted for inflation but not counting various re-releases. Prior to the early 80s (and home video in general), it was really common for big films to go back into circulation every few months or years. Obviously that stopped being an option when people could just buy their own copies.
 

BLACKLAC

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To be fair you can't compare anything these days to titanic except for the avatar sequel I imagine

Avengers 2 ain't touching it either

If the Avengers bump for phase 2 holds true it will clear Titanic easily (pre re-release), post re-release will be close though.

Star Wars hype is gonna be crazy. Even when avengers was as big as it was I didn't feel that phantom menace hype.

It sure will be. Not as hype as Episode 1 but it will be huge.
 
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