CreepingFear
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If good early reviews/buzz comes out from people that have seen Star Wars early, Star Wars. If Star Wars gets the same kind of reviews that the prequels got, then Ultron.
Place your bets: Age of Ultron vs The Force Awakens
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SCULLIBUNDO
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Once again, talking adjusted numbers is the dumbest thing you can do. You're taking one factor into account and ignoring all other contextually pertinent factors.
Well I think taking only adjusted numbers into account is stupid. For example just because a film did the equivalent of 1 billion in 1960 sure as hell doesn't mean it could do one billion in today's market.
If you replace Avengers with The Dark Knight Rises, and JJ with Whedon, we'd be back to early 2012 GAF
Jeff Albertson
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It will be a close call
I never noticed before but with those two, two pixar movies and things like the live action Cinderella Disney will make billions from box office takings this year
I never noticed before but with those two, two pixar movies and things like the live action Cinderella Disney will make billions from box office takings this year
If we're talking world wide box-office, I think Avengers will take it. If US only, Star Wars will probably rake in more money.
Unless something miraculous happens, Age Of Ultron is highly likely to be the much better film.
I'm more hyped for Avengers, but it's more of a known entity. If I had to pick one over the other, I'd see Star Wars first.
Unless something miraculous happens, Age Of Ultron is highly likely to be the much better film.
I'm more hyped for Avengers, but it's more of a known entity. If I had to pick one over the other, I'd see Star Wars first.
ComputerMKII
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I don't even know what the fuck Age of Ultron is.
Ricky Ricardo
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Do a quick google search?
It's ok. I don't know what The Force Awakens is.
I'm not sure "far" would be the appropriate term, given how much the international market has grown in the last few years.
Ah, thanks for that, I did remember that the 3D release did about $100M but for some reason thought that combined it was closer to $1.1B
Probably with a re-release.
Damn, that's insane.
But also didn't Titanic do some great numbers in China for the market at the time as well?
I do the remember the 3D version being no slouch either, around $150M IIRC.
I think you are underestimating it considering the series performance.
Ya, Titanic 3D did make around $150M in China, but it came out in 2012, and we were seeing other $150M+ films by that point. China has had enormous recent growth. About 5 years ago, the highest grossing film ever was less than $70M like I said. In 2014, that film wouldn't have even made China's top 20 of the year. Ten films broke $100M in China this year. Transformers 4 just cleared $300M. Chinese box office might rival the domestic box office by the time Marvel wraps up their Infinity War stuff.
CreepingFear
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I don't know what Batman vs Superman is.
bananafactory
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Can't say which will be better but Star Wars will absolutely make more money, assuming it turns out well.
lolwut? Just google it, watch the trailer.
BrassDragon
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No matter what, Disney shareholders are going to experience multiple orgasms since they profit from both properties.
But okay, I'm going with Star Wars for commercial success because 1) it will have an international marketing blitz that'll register on the Richter scale, 2) it will appeal to wider demographic (a female lead, the nostalgia factor, the kids toys etc.), 3) even if flawed, it will capture the fascination and interest of the media to a higher degee.
Which movie will triumph artistically is too early to tell.
I don't think the Marvel movies, and The Avengers in particular, are amazing cinematic achievements. Only Winter Soldier impressed me with its direction and composition of shots but on the whole, the movies are just competently made and elevated by good casting, polished (but unsurprising) screenplays and stellar editing. Maybe Star Wars is on par with that - I don't think JJ Abrams is a particularly inspired director but maybe this time he'll up his game... we haven't seen enough to make that call.
Both movies are burdened by their legacy and all the moving parts of their franchises, with prequels, sequels and sidequels all planned out concurrently. I fear what that burden will do to the screenplays - hopefully, they both feature tight narratives that work as a single movie but I wouldn't be surprised if one or both stumble here.
But okay, I'm going with Star Wars for commercial success because 1) it will have an international marketing blitz that'll register on the Richter scale, 2) it will appeal to wider demographic (a female lead, the nostalgia factor, the kids toys etc.), 3) even if flawed, it will capture the fascination and interest of the media to a higher degee.
Which movie will triumph artistically is too early to tell.
I don't think the Marvel movies, and The Avengers in particular, are amazing cinematic achievements. Only Winter Soldier impressed me with its direction and composition of shots but on the whole, the movies are just competently made and elevated by good casting, polished (but unsurprising) screenplays and stellar editing. Maybe Star Wars is on par with that - I don't think JJ Abrams is a particularly inspired director but maybe this time he'll up his game... we haven't seen enough to make that call.
Both movies are burdened by their legacy and all the moving parts of their franchises, with prequels, sequels and sidequels all planned out concurrently. I fear what that burden will do to the screenplays - hopefully, they both feature tight narratives that work as a single movie but I wouldn't be surprised if one or both stumble here.
a secret-boss
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As much as a Marvel fan I am
I think Star Wars will make money
I think Star Wars will make money
Mighty Chin
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Life Long Star Wars fan that will be there opening weekend for Avengers: AOU.
I'll wait and see for Star Wars.
I'll wait and see for Star Wars.
Hero_of_the_Day
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It's Star Trek 3.
Sorry for the bump, but I spent about a month from time-to-time mulling over the factors of this Box Office Brawl. Granted, Star Wars' previous box office numbers aren't adjusted for inflation, but Avengers 1 broke all kinds of records when it first came out, & this wouldn't mark the first time a good chunk GAF counted the Avengers out. Overall, it all depends on how well-received The Force Awakens is. If it's anything less than good, then Age of Ultron will beat Star Wars like the red-headed stepchild of a rented mule. If Star Wars 7 lives up to expectations, then it may have a legit shot at passing up Avengers 2 (& it probably will in this scenario given that Star Wars will have less competition).
lol that thread had so many people thinking TDKR was going to crush Avengers in the box office.
To be fair, hindsight is 20/20.
robertsan21
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Star wars, it's not even a contest. The avengers was horrible!
Discotheque
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and plus the dark knight rises final trailer was so damn good, just youtube'd it as a reminder. like how were we supposed to know it would suck (though i liked avengers even less tbh)
MisterHero
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I want TRON 3 more but no one else wants it.
I'm gonna reanswer these? As last time i answered as one mess not seperate questions
Which movie do you think will make the most money - box office tie, is that possible? Would that be a first? Or Maybe like a few thousand between them. Maybe avengers because if it has the full Force awakens trailer attached i think people are going to go see avengers just for that reason.
Which movie do you think will be the better film?
Star wars (look i really liked avengers on first viewing, but after a few rewatches it's not quite as exciting, especially since the story is close to the avengers animated movie from a few years prior which i already saw a few times and in animated movie was a chunk of the live cap america movie too, before that came out. don't believe me go and watch it)
If they were both released on the same day, which would you go see first? - Star Wars, since it was my first film franchise i fell in love with and i need to know where luke and the gang are going storywise, more than how the avengers are going to beat Ultron. Also Avengers is probably getting a Star wars trailer at least i hope so, will Star wars - Force Awakens get the first Star Wars - Standalone Movie Teaser?
Do you think there is any other 2015 film that will remotely come close to the money these will make? Or maybe even a video game?
Maybe, but what i'm not sure how much did the last bond film make?
Which are you more excited about being in Kingdom Hearts?
I don't play kingdom hearts - i'd like both.
TheExhaustedWalrus
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I think Avengers will make more $. They will both do gangbusters. The real winner here is Disney.
Starwars imo. The thirst for a new Star wars movie is real. We've seen plenty of Marvel movies. The first Avengers was novel in that it was the first comic book movie with a team up that was done really well. The second one will probably be good and make a lot but I doubt it makes as much as the first one tbh.
SCULLIBUNDO
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All kinda of records... Like what? I can only remember biggest opening weekend being crazy. What were the others? I honestly can't remember.
Most of it involves being the fastest to gross 100M all the way up to around 600M. That and the biggest 2nd weekend.
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Episode 1 wasn't well received at all and still did some insane numbers for the time and size of the market. Episode 7 is definitely going to do better than Avengers 1 did and pretty sure it'll pass over AoU as well (I'm not sure it'll break $2b, but I'd say it's a possibility if it turns out to be excellent)
First and second weekend, theater averages, several single day grosses, fastest to some millions and things like that.
Masquerader
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So much crow shall be eaten. Let's get real: The most popular, well-known movie franchise in history will win it.
I trust that I don't have to clarify what it is.
quickwhips
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Neither does WB
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Star Wars. It'll have much wider appeal. Ultron looks good but I have to admit it looks very similar to the first Avengers, albeit much, much darker, and with 100% less Loki. I think that some here are underestimating the response having Luke, Leia and Han in the movie will bring.
It would not surprise me to see The Force Awakens approach Avatar numbers. I'm completely serious.
It would not surprise me to see The Force Awakens approach Avatar numbers. I'm completely serious.
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Scorpion Soldier
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As huge as I think The Force Awakens is gonna be, I'd have to put my bet on Age of Ultron.
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i think marvel will continue to stomp anything for a long time coming. Star wars has been shyte for years, i have much more faith that a big marvel movie will be awesome
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