Intel releases HDMI stick that runs Windows 8.1 ($149)

Reallink said:
You guys wanting to Transformer this thing up with USB Ethernet and HUBs would be better served with HP's Stream Mini PC. $30 more and it has Ethernet, 4(?) USB 3.0 ports, and is likely to be faster overall.

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$180
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HPs always look like they have great features on paper, but their reliability is so bad, and they just don't care about it.
 
Can someone break down what this means for the average consumer? Can they plug this into their HDTV and have this act as a computer? How does this differ from Chromecast/Apple TV besides running a real operating system?
 
Furyous said:
Can someone break down what this means for the average consumer? Can they plug this into their HDTV and have this act as a computer? How does this differ from Chromecast/Apple TV besides running a real operating system?
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It doesn't. But the addition of the OS and the relatively small footprint makes it a worthwhile product.
 
This would be pretty sweet hooked up to a cheap touch screen monitor, put it in your kitchen or somewhere, and just use it as a torrent box while not using it
 
I'll pick up something like this on a whim someday, probably when a super cheap deal comes along, because I simply do not NEED this now with all the shit I've already acquired in the last year or so.

Emulators is the first thing I though of too. Plex home theater. Etc etc.
 
I've been hoarding indie titles on Steam for years in the hope that one day something like this would be released.

I'll still give it a year or two's iteration before I bite, but the potential here is pretty brilliant.
 
So if I understand correctly I could use the Steam In-Home Streaming on this and access all my PC games on anything I plug this into?

That could be awesome.
 
Chittagong said:
What has happened in the last year that allows us to have 'real Windows' suddenly in Android priced snd sized devices? It seems there is every day an article about a $99 Windows tablet, $199 Windows mini pc or now, a Windows HDMI stick.

I mean, we are talking about the operating system that required a 'RT' botching just to run on a thin tablet just a year or two ago.

EDIT - also, how the hell is Mac Mini still so massive physically?
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It's a combination of Intel reducing the price of Baytrail and crucially, Microsoft giving away Windows (and often Office or Overdrive storage) for free or heavily subsidised.

I still think this device is overpriced by $50. The only difference between this and my £60 Linx 7 is the addition of 1GB of RAM and a full size USB port as well as the removal of a 1280x800 IPS screen and 1 year of Office 365. The IPS screen is a more expensive component than the RAM so this thing should be cheaper if anything.

Still, I'm sure once the Chinese OEMs get their hands on the reference design we'll soon see $100/£60 options hit the market.
 
This sounds like what I've always dreamed of, a computer I can take anywhere and use on any (HD) TV. But I'm thinking about comparable tablets like people have mentioned, and I don't know which is better. Wouldn't a tablet with Windows 8 for around the same price be more useful, since it had its own screen and can work separate from a monitor? That HP Steam Mini also sounds really nice, especially the included keyboard. Some benchmarks for the stick and the Stream Mini compared to standard computersand tablets would be nice.

nephilimdj said:
This would be pretty sweet hooked up to a cheap touch screen monitor, put it in your kitchen or somewhere, and just use it as a torrent box while not using it
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Whoa, that's really interesting. Now I have to go look up touchscreen monitors.
 
Reallink said:
You guys wanting to Transformer this thing up with USB Ethernet and HUBs would be better served with HP's Stream Mini PC. $30 more and it has Ethernet, 4(?) USB 3.0 ports, and is likely to be faster overall.

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$180
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I saw this the other day. Seems pretty great. But that image is the more expensive version.
This is the 180$ one:
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Specs:
Operating System: Windows 8.1 with Bing
• Processor: Intel® Celeron® processor 2957U
• Memory: 2GB PC3-12800 DDR3L-1600 SDRAM memory 1X2GB
• Solid state drive: 32GB M.2 SATA Solid State Drive
• Graphics: Intel® HD Graphics
• Keyboard and mouse: USB keyboard with volume control and optical mouse
• USB ports: 4 (4 x 3.0)
• Wireless: Integrated Bluetooth® 4.0 and Wireless LAN 802.11b/g/n featuring 2.4GHz 1x1
technology(19)(26)
• Warranty: 1 year limited PC hardware warranty
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press_kits/2015/2015CES/StreamMiniDesktop.pdf

CPU info:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-2957U-Notebook-Processor.104913.0.html
http://ark.intel.com/products/78942/Intel-Celeron-Processor-2957U-2M-Cache-1_40-GHz
Haswell CPU! Not Atom!

More images & video:
http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-300-020-mini/

Especially if it comes with a keyboard and mouse! Hook up a usb external with movies, emulators etc.
Plus full windows 8.1 so youtube, netflix, twitch any streaming site will work.
 
Think of the office lan parties you can throw with this thing? More Rainbow 6 Vegas!

I have to get my coworkers on board.
 
Would love a small,, cheap machine that I could hook up to the TV using HDMI that would run Dolphin and earlier emulators well. Had thought about a Raspberry Pi but never have any idea how well each machine would run Dolphine. Would Pi be enough or do I need something more powerful like this?
 
JP said:
Would love a small,, cheap machine that I could hook up to the TV using HDMI that would run Dolphin and earlier emulators well. Had thought about a Raspberry Pi but never have any idea how well each machine would run Dolphine. Would Pi be enough or do I need something more powerful like this?
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Dolphin will never run on one (except New Mario Bros which is playable at <480p with about 10-20fps, tested on my Dell Venue 8 Pro). But you could just stream everything.
 
Man, 802.11ac would have made me buy it at double the price for a Steam Streaming stick. As it is, I can't justify a use case for it.

I know about the USB to Ethernet, but I really wanted a stream anywhere solution.

rhfb said:
Can't wait to see some impressions/benchmarks for Linux Steam streaming.
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It'll need ethernet rather than using the built-in wireless, that's for sure.
 
JP said:
Would love a small,, cheap machine that I could hook up to the TV using HDMI that would run Dolphin and earlier emulators well. Had thought about a Raspberry Pi but never have any idea how well each machine would run Dolphine. Would Pi be enough or do I need something more powerful like this?
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the raspberry pi is fine for XBMC, but if you wanted to run Dolphin i would suggest taking an extra 100 bucks or so and getting a box that's more powerful and a bit less "tinkerish"

i love my PI, but it:
- looks kinda dumb with ports all over its sides
- pretty much NEEDS a powered external USB hub, as it only has 2 USB slots
- has no built in WiFi connectivity whatsoever (so that's 1 of the USBs gone already)
- is somewhat unstable and extremely picky with power adaptors from my experience
- doesn't even have an on/off switch

the PI + case + a fast SD card + WiFi adapter + a powered(!) USB hub also add up to not that low of an entry price.
(at least 100$ i'd say)

the little HP box sounds intriguing to me, as my PI's hidden in a drawer anyways.

i don't get the hype about this dongle. It needs to be powered by USB anyways, if you want extra storage you'll need to "daisychain" a HDD to it. So you'll most likely end up getting an HDMI extension and putting it somewhere, where you'll also put the harddrive. I'm much more intrigued by those little boxes like the HP one posted above.

i'd just love a 300$ mac mini that has some sort of AppleTV mode, though.

can't go with "one single media device" for all my MP4s, AppleTV rentals and Netflix Streams. it's always "pick 2" out of these 3
 
Fliesen said:
i don't get the hype about this dongle. It needs to be powered by USB anyways, if you want extra storage you'll need to "daisychain" a HDD to it. So you'll most likely end up getting an HDMI extension and putting it somewhere, where you'll also put the harddrive. I'm much more intrigued by those little boxes like the HP one posted above.
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It's got MicroSD as well, so you only need to daisychain if you need more than 128GB.
 
brain_stew said:
It's a combination of Intel reducing the price of Baytrail and crucially, Microsoft giving away Windows (and often Office or Overdrive storage) for free or heavily subsidised.

I still think this device is overpriced by $50. The only difference between this and my £60 Linx 7 is the addition of 1GB of RAM and a full size USB port as well as the removal of a 1280x800 IPS screen and 1 year of Office 365. The IPS screen is a more expensive component than the RAM so this thing should be cheaper if anything.

Still, I'm sure once the Chinese OEMs get their hands on the reference design we'll soon see $100/£60 options hit the market.
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http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box/pp_128507.html

your wish is granted lol
 
The Linux one should be fine with Steam In-Home streaming too, provided QuickSync works with Steam In-Home streaming on Linux.

Edit: Looks like it does.
 
With one USB port, I guess you connect a usb hub to it for controller, external hdd, keyboard and mouse, and Ethernet adaptor?

Wonder if it has Bluetooth embedded. Couldn't find that in the link. If so, would have to buy a new keyboard.
 
Definitely interested for an emulation box... Hell, this would be a REALLY cheap/energy efficient way to start an arcade cabinet.
 
Erasus said:
I saw this the other day. Seems pretty great. But that image is the more expensive version.
This is the 180$ one:
abeILedl.jpg


Specs:
Operating System: Windows 8.1 with Bing
• Processor: Intel® Celeron® processor 2957U
• Memory: 2GB PC3-12800 DDR3L-1600 SDRAM memory 1X2GB
• Solid state drive: 32GB M.2 SATA Solid State Drive
• Graphics: Intel® HD Graphics
• Keyboard and mouse: USB keyboard with volume control and optical mouse
• USB ports: 4 (4 x 3.0)
• Wireless: Integrated Bluetooth® 4.0 and Wireless LAN 802.11b/g/n featuring 2.4GHz 1x1
technology(19)(26)
• Warranty: 1 year limited PC hardware warranty
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press_kits/2015/2015CES/StreamMiniDesktop.pdf

CPU info:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-2957U-Notebook-Processor.104913.0.html
http://ark.intel.com/products/78942/Intel-Celeron-Processor-2957U-2M-Cache-1_40-GHz
Haswell CPU! Not Atom!

More images & video:
http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-300-020-mini/

Especially if it comes with a keyboard and mouse! Hook up a usb external with movies, emulators etc.
Plus full windows 8.1 so youtube, netflix, twitch any streaming site will work.
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I'm pretty sure it has active cooling, and it uses 45 Watts, which is more than the intel atom mini ati desktop PC I am using now.
 
Alright I hear you guys say just stream steam to this... since I have never looked into it how does this work? Can you just install steam on this and is there an option to stream from another computer on the network?

I am at work so can not test this just curious if this is built into steam. If so I will have to invest in one of these small PC's.
 
U2NUMB said:
Alright I hear you guys say just stream steam to this... since I have never looked into it how does this work? Can you just install steam on this and is there an option to stream from another computer on the network?

I am at work so can not test this just curious if this is built into steam. If so I will have to invest in one of these small PC's.
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Yeah, if you're logged into your Steam account on two PCs within the same network, all the games installed on the main PC come up on the second PC and where it says Play or Install normally, it'll say Stream and you just run them as normal. Very minimal input lag, 60fps and 1080p too.

You will need either 802.11ac wireless on both computers or ethernet though. Anything else is just too slow and can't keep up.
 
Quite literally a "Throw your HTPC out the window"-type device, though I'm going to wait for the second generation with 802.11ac and Cherry Trail/something Skylake-based before nabbing.
 
Hasney said:
Yeah, if you're logged into your Steam account on two PCs within the same network, all the games installed on the main PC come up on the second PC and where it says Play or Install normally, it'll say Stream and you just run them as normal. Very minimal input lag, 60fps and 1080p too.

You will need either 802.11ac wireless on both computers or ethernet though. Anything else is just too slow and can't keep up.
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Awesome.. I can ethernet it both ways... this is great news and I will make a purchase to make this happen soon.

One question.. does it play the game on the main computer and just stream like VPN to the remote monitor? I assume this is how it has to work as the power is on that main computer.
 
diggmcbadass said:
I have absolutely no need for this, yet I want one.

Only obstacle is how hard it will be to switch OS if even possible at all.
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Load Linux on an external device and then you can control where to boot the OS from via keyboard command.
It is better to make Windows/Mac the primary OS since it is harder to boot those externally.
 
U2NUMB said:
Awesome.. I can ethernet it both ways... this is great news and I will make a purchase to make this happen soon.

One question.. does it play the game on the main computer and just stream like VPN to the remote monitor? I assume this is how it has to work as the power is on that main computer.
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Yeah, basically the main PC isn't usable at the same time as it's just playing the game and having its input taken over.
 
AriEX2 said:
I've been hoarding indie titles on Steam for years in the hope that one day something like this would be released.

I'll still give it a year or two's iteration before I bite, but the potential here is pretty brilliant.
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Are you waiting for performance increases??

It would probably run most Indie games just fine.

Looking at similar devices this little thing could probably run Crysis at 25-30fps on low settings and would most likely run something like Half Life 2 at 40-60fps on med-high settings. Talking the 2GB RAM Windows version that is. Not sure about the Linux performance and which version would utilize RAM the best (or have the most available).

I'm not into tablet/laptop PC gaming, but I have been interested in PC Sticks for a loooooong time. Might pull the trigger on one of these for fun.

Heh, by some people's reactions, it seems there are many that don't realize these things have existed for years.
 
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