Majora's Mask New 3DS LE does not include game or Adapter in USA
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Steve Youngblood
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Well, they won't already have one if they are trading in their current system for the upgrade.
faceless007
Member
My Mario & Luigi: Dream Team LE came with it pre-installed and that was just a year ago (honestly one of the main reasons I bought it), did they give up since then?
Yeah is it exclusive to gamestop or what?
Steve Youngblood
Member
Nah, they've just been inconsistent with how they've done this. A Smash LE didn't include Smash, and I think there was a Pokemon system that released with X and Y that didn't include the game. Like the Majora system, these are priced at the same pricepoint as the standard consoles.
finalflame
Banned
One reason could be because a lot of the crowd that's getting the LE N3DS, are the same crowd that's pre-ordering the LE MM w/ the figurine. So pre-installing the game could be wasteful.
EatinOlives
Member
The PS3 never included an HDMI cable and caught a lot of flak for it in the entirety of its life last generation. HDMI cables are also far more in abundance and cheap as well, but all the same people still complained about that (and they were right to).
This is arguably worse, because it's not a standard cable that you're expect to have laying around like a mini/micro USB port, and it's a required purchase to play it. Many New 3DS early adopters are trading in their old 3DSs, which requires that they hand in their chargers as well.
It's not the end of the world, it's not a significant hidden cost, and I doubt anyone who truly wants a New 3DS will refuse to purchase one because of this, but it's still a bone-headed, nonsensical, penny-pinching decision from NoA to do this. Just because it doesn't personally inconvenience you doesn't mean you can't realize it's just a dumb decision.
People want to trade in their old system. My local store wont let me trade it in without an adapter. This is just cheap Nintendo.
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
Oh shit, I thought it was... damnit!
Steve Youngblood
Member
Well, just looking at them you'd think they were the same. The connectors look exactly the same if you're just taking a cursory glance at them. But I promise you that one doesn't work with the other.
Khaos_Knight
Banned
I'm sorry but I'm having trouble grasping this:
Fuck the game. So you buy the system, which is powered by a battery, but it doesn't come with the cable to charge that battery?
This is the first electronic device I've seen from a major company that's actually sold without the essential ac adapter.
This is something I would expect from some cheap third party chinese knock off vendor on ebay but not a renown international company like Nintendo.
And people are actually defending this?
Like wow that's some top level kool aid brand loyalty.
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Fuck the game. So you buy the system, which is powered by a battery, but it doesn't come with the cable to charge that battery?
This is the first electronic device I've seen from a major company that's actually sold without the essential ac adapter.
This is something I would expect from some cheap third party chinese knock off vendor on ebay but not a renown international company like Nintendo.
And people are actually defending this?
Like wow that's some top level kool aid brand loyalty.
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ElectricKaibutsu
Member
I think it's OK the game isn't included because the system isn't more expensive. I remember people were complaining about the Wind Waker Wii U because it came with a digital version and not physical. Now you can get what you want.
Yes, the lack of charger is BS but... I don't know, it's just such old news since I'm outside of NA that I already got mad and got over it three years ago when I bought a used AC adapter for $6.50.
Yes, the lack of charger is BS but... I don't know, it's just such old news since I'm outside of NA that I already got mad and got over it three years ago when I bought a used AC adapter for $6.50.
XeroSauce
Member
People in AUS/NZ have the New 3DS and New XL (god, what shitty names) and none of them come with power adapters.
mullet2000
Member
Doesn't make it any less shitty, though.
In terms of North America I can't think of another product that has done this, either.
I'd prefer most electronics didn't come with generic cables/chargers that can be easily be obtained if needed (kind of like 'batteries not included' but with something not really as disposable).
I have dozens upon dozens of USB cables, video cables, audio cables, of all sorts. Such a waste.
Of course, they should also be slightly cheaper because of that, but that'd never happen.
People need to stop using this as an excuse. This doesn't validate the lack of an AC adapter at all.
Yes, it's shitty that you've had to deal with it. Yes, it should have been made into a bigger issue sooner. But that doesn't make it okay. In North America, this is arguably the first major electronic product that will be released without something that is 100% essential to using it. And given that it costs Nintendo less than $1.00 to put these things in the box, that's completely unacceptable.
Khaos_Knight
Banned
I understand that this has been going on in other regions but why?
Why not pack it in like every other tech company in the planet?
And why is there no more outrage from the consumers over this?
It's just blatant disrespect for their consumers.
If Sony or MS tried to sell me a system without the AC cable, I would go to their head quarters and smash the system over the CEO's head.
They're basically saying "Fuck you, give me your money and just swallow my dick."
Just because you have a terrible lawn, doesn't mean I should too. They would both be terrible at that point, and something should had been done about yours first.
XeroSauce
Member
Not using it as an excuse at all. I'm agreeing that it's a disgusting practice.
DrGonzo615
Banned
Sorry but not having a fucking power cable with the system is inexcusable and ridiculous.
Wouldn't Vita games not function at all without the presence of a mem card? I may not be remembering that correctly. The biggest issue I have with this stupid move by Nintendo is that it's not like they're leaving out a cable that's ubiquitous. If it used a micro USB cable to charge, I'd be better with this. But they're leaving out a proprietary cable. That just makes them dicks.
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah, I do not get the logic at all of defending them forcing you to get your own charging adapter.
I think this first part of the video explains my reaction: http://youtu.be/ryB-hdtpQRw?t=20s
Part 1 would be how Nintendo encourages scalpers.
zeldarocks
Neo Member
I agree that it is unorthodox to do so here in the United States, but I can see their reasoning from a business perspective. They have been in the red for quite a few years now. So they need to cut costs where ever possible in order to recoup their loses.
Solid SOAP
Member
Wait, so... if you sell your old 3DS to Gamestop you have to include your charger with it?
Can someone confirm this for me?
Can someone confirm this for me?
Of course. They're not taking a system with no charger back.
Yes, part of the trade-in is the charging cable. Apparently Nintendo is sure everyone already has multiple chargers but Gamestop isn't.
Steve Youngblood
Member
I'm not sure if they'll just knock something off the value in store without all the components, but on the website they only offer trade-in values for the system + AC + Stylus.
malboroking
Banned
Or buying the system new. It's pretty goddamn ridiculous that they don't include everything you need to use the system. I stupidly bought one of the Smash Bros. controller for the Wii U. Silly me thinking that I could just plug it into the Wii U. Nope, I need to buy a Gamecube adapter (wtf?) that's sold out everywhere. Why didn't they just make them USB? It doesn't make any sense. Why do I have to buy some bullshit Nintendo proprietary garbage to charge my N3DS or use my first party WiiU controller on my WiiU? I cannot believe people actually defend this practice.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Hrrmmm... I'm with people in regards to the notion that the New 3DS should come with a charger. And I will certainly argue that the lack of availability of the GC adapter is silly given the availability of the controllers themselves. However, I don't know if I can concede the point I quoted here. I'm not sure where you bought the controller from, but the Smash controllers have never been advertised as anything but GC controllers. Not Wii U controllers modeled after GC controllers, but actual GC controllers. Don't take this as me insulting you are saying you had it coming for not paying close enough attention, but I personally don't think they were misleading in how the Smash controllers functioned. At launch they were sold as part of a now sold out bundle that included the adapter and the game.
malboroking
Banned
The box my controller came in has a giant WiiU logo on it, as well as a Smash Bros for Wii U logo, why wouldn't I think it would work with my WiiU? The box was in a locked case, so I wasn't able to look at the back, which by the way is the only place where it says you need an adapter. Why would they release Gamecube controllers in 2014? It doesn't make any sense. Why doesn't it at least come with a Gamecube to USB adaptor with the controller? This was an impulse buy, so I didn't research it, but why should I have to? The thing has WiiU logos all over the front of the box with no indication that I would need an adapter. Then to add insult to injury, they apparently released a stupidly small number of the adapters and they were pretty much immediately sold out. So now there are a ton of retail stores selling a controller that nobody can use. Awesome. Now I've got to find a third party adapter or just return the controller.
Not to mention you could say the same thing about them not being misleading about not including a charging cable with the new 3DS.
bishopcruz
Member
So this thing is sold out everywhere right?
KiefbladeMaster
Member
I'm just gonna stick with the XL.
faceless007
Member
I don't understand the argument that a significant-enough people already have a charger that this is worth the headaches and customer aggravation. Literally the only people who won't incur an added cost are those who already have a DSi or 3DS system and who don't intend to sell or trade it in to purchase the new 3DS, because in almost all cases, they will have to include their current charger when they try to get rid of the older system. The only people this isn't a problem for are those who intend to keep 2 Nintendo handhelds around. Fortunately, that includes me (DSi XL is still the best way to play DS games and I'm not giving mine up) but I can readily see that mine is an unusual circumstance. A lot of parents and kids will want to sell/trade their current system to subsidize the price of the new one, and this means that their expected sell/trade price is effectively less $15. Moreover, while cheap OEM chargers can be found online, most customers are only going to find out about the missing charger when they go to buy the new system, at which point the retailer will be happy to sell them one, effectively increasing the price of the system by $15 (or decreasing their trade-in credit by $15, whichever feels better).
Dastardly Jerks
Banned
If you've bought any Nintendo DS hardware product in the past decade, then you already have a charger.
I'd think it's more of a crime if they made you pay extra for the unit simply because it came with a charger when you already had one.
I'd think it's more of a crime if they made you pay extra for the unit simply because it came with a charger when you already had one.
KiefbladeMaster
Member
You can't just expect all consumer's to own a charger. I have never owned a DS, and I'd definitely trade my OG in for the money off, which requires you to include the charger. It's kind of weird that they don't include one and if it's an indication of how cheap they'll go I fear for the build quality of the system, honestly.
Dastardly Jerks
Banned
Then, congratulations, you have the ability to purchase one when you pick up your 3DS!
You'd rather force everyone to pay for something they don't need simply because you have to add a second item to your shopping cart?
faceless007
Member
As I just posted, this is only true if you don't intend to sell/trade your current system to subsidize the new one. I can't imagine the set of people willing to keep 2 recent dedicated Nintendo handhelds, one of which has BC with the other, is really that large, and I'm someone doing exactly that.
opticalmace
Member
Because they're totally giving us a discount for not including an AC adapter...
KiefbladeMaster
Member
I don't understand how you can defend this, really. I am far from the only person with this situation and GAF is a vocal minority.
Very short-sighted and selfish of you, probably.
This, too.
Gambit 1138
Banned
The charge adapter is the bigger issue
Quadraphonic
Member
So you'd rather have less chargers than devices you own?
Do you also juggle AA batteries between remotes instead of buying more?
RE: SSB controllers -- I actually am still confused as to why they didn't just make them USB to begin with. I guess this would have pissed off people who wanted to play on Wii or GC for maximum compatibility, but I agree that it should have at the very least come with a small adapter, making it compatible out of the box for the Wii U.
RE: no charger -- I posted elsewhere that I didn't really care, but the more I think about it, the more it bothers me. Make enough noise and hopefully Nintendo will listen and change their tune. I don't think it's too late, and if it is before things hit retail, it could make them consider a mail-in offer, which doesn't help those who drain their battery before they receive one, but it would be a huge good faith move on their part.
RE: no game for the NA MM n3DS XL -- WTF, seriously.
RE: no charger -- I posted elsewhere that I didn't really care, but the more I think about it, the more it bothers me. Make enough noise and hopefully Nintendo will listen and change their tune. I don't think it's too late, and if it is before things hit retail, it could make them consider a mail-in offer, which doesn't help those who drain their battery before they receive one, but it would be a huge good faith move on their part.
RE: no game for the NA MM n3DS XL -- WTF, seriously.
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
Brian★;147472688 said:the European and Australian version doesn't include the game aswell.
It's just a design, deal with it.
That's strange, because this was posted in the announcement thread:
What's the deal with the two SKUs then?