Or watch some people make up absurd prices as a coping mechanism. It's certainly entertaining.
The Witcher 3: 1080p/30fps on PS4, 900p/30fps on Xbox One
- Thread starter chadskin
- Start date
Wasn't it confirmed to only be 3.5GB even on 1440p?
They're completely ignoring viewing distance, and that's what makes it stupid. It's simply not true that the "naked eye cannot tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on anything below 50" and that you need a 27" TV or above to "take advantage" of 1080p.
The difference between even 1600x900 on a 24" to a 1920x1080 is pretty fucking massive at a viewing distance you'd sit at on a desk (for example).
(I dunno who McCaffrey is so I'm not sure which statement you're referring to as "100% true").
They used to quote $10,000 durante, cut em some slack!
That the impact of resolution differences is dependent on certain factors and may not always be 'huge' as was described earlier. What the IGN idiots were saying of course was way off for anybody with half decent vision, but the general principle of pixels per degree of vision is universal.
I await your next juvenile dismissive GIF that contributes nothing at all...
We'll get the facts soon.
Here is an objective fact and all you need:
1080p>900p>720p.
-----------------------
Whether the difference is "huge" or not to your eyes is subjective. And here I thought you were going to be more bold.
Its absolutely incorrect that a 720p presentation with light FXAA is going to be comparable to 1080p without AA, especially on non complex assets like that. Switching back and forth between the two resolutions does show a noticable and welcome difference.
If you don't believe, try KH 2.5 in 1080p native, then switch to 720p. World of difference for aliasing, jaggies everywhere on the latter setting.
Zombie James
Banned
Curious.
elder semen
Banned
...so the main RAM just...doesn't exist anymore or what? Where did it go? See my reply to the other guy. Actual games/apps have run at 150 GB/s just for the eSRAM. No idea where you got the 133 GB/s figure. And that figure is actual applications, not peak (your 176 GB/s for PS4 isn't actual game/app...it's theoretical peak).
The SHAPE chip is what handles audio tasks on X1, which otherwise need to use up CPU cores to run. The SHAPE chip in X1 handles significantly more voices than PS4's hardware for audio does.
SRTtoZ
Member
Lol. So true.
Is that right? I thought Mordor's ultra textures required 6GB? Maybe they changed the requirements in the interim from when i heard about it.
No it does say that, but 3.5 is what it actually uses even on 1440p Ultra textures.
I've never heard the audio chip in the X1 is better then the PS4. Do you have a link?
Well, I took the bait and looked up parts from a German store. Without much shopping around a i7-4790 is ~350 and a 980 is ~600 so 1300 or more for a pc with such innards used for th event isn't actually a wrong statement, isn't it?
I'll wait with upgrading my 7870 and i5 750 untill prices are getting less insane, I think, over 500for flagship cards, damn.
I'll wait with upgrading my 7870 and i5 750 untill prices are getting less insane, I think, over 500for flagship cards, damn.
TrojanBlade
Member
Whats this image in the OP? How come PC looks like some blurry image and PS4 looks worse than XB?
I hope the fps is locked or close to 30 99% of the time on consoles. Would my first Witcher game. Glad they hit 1080 on PS4.
By the way, is the combat similar to Souls game?
Maybe you should think about parking your PC right next to the consoles in the "living room." Or perhaps even build a new gaming PC for that very purpose. Once I left the desk/chair behind and embraced "couch PC gaming" I never looked back.
The Witcher 3 is probably a great excuse to do that, but that's just my opinion.
John Kowalski
Banned
Good thing i won the lottery last week, i can finally afford the R&D costs of developing a super quantum computer so i can play this at sixty frames per second.
And 16k is 'better' than 8k, but you're going to be incapable of seeing the difference in an average living room situation. Thats not due to subjectivity.
This is to be expected. As the generation goes on and the continues to get wider in install bases of between the PS4 and Xbox One, any pressure to achieve performance parity will just be ignored and the differences will show up even greater than what we've seen so far in favour of the PS4 versions of multiplatforms. Developers will see no reason to spend more time on a version that only 20% or less of their fans are on
Crayon
Member
elder semen
Banned
Just for reference, Unity absolutely uses the extra 80% of the 7th CPU core on X1. Haven't seen anyone here point that out, but play it and watch what happens to the game if you use a voice command. It stops completely (suspend mode, 0% CPU usage). It even stops loading screens. Also note that the IR sensors in Kinect turn off entirely. The IR sensors also turned off entirely in the Halo 5 beta. Remember, devs had to tell the system to disable these to get access to more CPU. It's not automatic.
For further evidence about Unity using the extra CPU core, the devs essentially told us so in an interview a while back, saying MS gave them some additional CPU resources to work with for Unity (likely part of the marketing deal...early preview access to the SDK update).
Unity is a great game imho. Not any more so broken than other open world games typically are. But I didn't get it until after it's major patches. *shrugs*
Handles significantly more voices. Off top of my head think it was something like 512 vs 256 maybe, but don't quote me on that.
I think they just need to reassure themselves that 1,500 PC is going to play the game better than the PS4 and Xbone
I suspect its the black crush of the X1 fooling your eye.
Agree though im glad they've hit 1080, just hope the fps isnt harmed or at least kept to a minimum discrepancy.
What does the GIF signify?
Are you trying to suggest that anyone that believes or "sees" and opines that the difference between 1080p and 720p are huge is incorrect and/or factually wrong? I'm getting that vibe.
molnizzle
Member
Anything that's not native is going to be easily noticeable regardless of the size of the TV and how far you sit from it. You might not be able to distinguish 900p from 720p, but you'll sure as shit notice the difference between between any other resolution and 1080p.
It's not about pixel count at all, it's about not rendering 1-to-1 at my display's native resolution. A 1080p TV looks good at exactly one resolution: 1920x1080. Anything else will be blurry, that's just the way the tech works.
I think its the "Yeah Ok /s" gif.
Although in the context of his post I have no idea...
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Salt, that people won't use his platform of choice.
Oppo
Member
PS4 it is, then. Thanks for showing the way!
Yeah, i'm just wondering what he's responding to exactly.
People like that the game is in native presentation so they are more enthusiastic about the product. Seems straightforward.
That was before TrueAudio DSP reveal in PS4 . Who cares about voices anyway.
I never said 720p would look better. :/
And again, the 'difference' is dependent on certain things and wont be the same for every situation. If I tested this on my PC monitor at my desk, I'd get a different result than I did in my living room with my TV.
Anyways, I'm not gonna keep repeating myself.
elder semen
Banned
Whoa...someone who actually understands how resolution works!
You are definitely correct. As resolutions get higher and higher the difference in the perception of sharpness in the image dramatically decreases. It is absolutely an area of strongly diminished returns.
Snkfanatic
Banned
I think they just need to reassure themselves that €1,500 PC is going to play the game better than the PS4 and Xbone
Give me a break...
Uh...huh.
Some weird responses in this thread.
Infinite_Daremo
Member
Think of us peasants streaming it at 960x544. VitaGAF!
elder semen
Banned
What about the TrueAudio DSP? We never got info on it "improving" anything other than that was how it was being branded by AMD. It didn't improve the audio capabilities beyond what Cerna had previously described (which is what I was referring to). And voices doesn't refer to spoken dialogue in games...you know that right?
hammertomb
Banned
He's not using the right context.
No, your right i'm sorry. I didn't mean to imply you meant 720p would look better. I meant to say that its incorrect to say that they are comparable or there isn't much difference, which is the post of that other one i was responding to.
Its a huge boost in clarity definitely.
gioGAF
Member
I don't know, but that whole post is idiotic. He quotes a bunch of different posters and all he posts is that stupid gif, smh.
Seanspeed is at least entertaining...
Goodacre0081
Member
don't think you should be using this picture for analyzing anything
Acquiescence
Member
What the hell is that supposed to mean? Are you upset that people are getting the PS4 version?
Whoa...someone who actually understands how resolution works!
You are definitely correct. As resolutions get higher and higher the difference in the perception of sharpness in the image dramatically decreases. It is absolutely an area of strongly diminished returns.
I wouldn't worry about diminishing returns quite yet, we have a ways to go to it becomes an issue. 720p to 1080p is still pretty noticeable on my Tablet, let alone my computer monitor.
Whoa...someone who actually understands how resolution works!
You are definitely correct. As resolutions get higher and higher the difference in the perception of sharpness in the image dramatically decreases. It is absolutely an area of strongly diminished returns.
Only we arent talking about hyper resolutions.
We are talking about "standard" 1080, 900 and 720 Which of course is still noticeable to the human eye.
At least my eye anyway.
Infinite_Daremo
Member
He has an XOne or a Wii U. Who knows.