megashock5
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It really is, especially if you remember the 16 bit era. They were a beast.
I thought we'd at least get a new-gen installment of Sonic Racing. Transformed was pretty fun.
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It really is, especially if you remember the 16 bit era. They were a beast.
I thought we'd at least get a new-gen installment of Sonic Racing. Transformed was pretty fun.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
This is just a comment by the author, no? We do not know if Sonic Boom was a catastrophic failure financially, or if Alien Isolation was a huge sucess financially. Budgets and payments by Nintendo in the case of Boom could very well play a role here so that the weaker performing game did not lose Sega much money, whereas a well-selling Alien Isolation could have ended up less spectecular than sales might imply.
Augemitbutter
Member
this is so goddamn sad.
I know it's impossible, but I would love to see Nintendo buying Sega.
Tons of unused ips like Golden axe, Streets of rage, Shinobi, Shenmue, Nights, Panzer Dragoon, House of the dead, Beyond Oasis... And they could start making good Sonic games at last.
Fuck, it would be awesome. But they merged with Sammy didn't they? How would this work in an hypothetical situation?
Tons of unused ips like Golden axe, Streets of rage, Shinobi, Shenmue, Nights, Panzer Dragoon, House of the dead, Beyond Oasis... And they could start making good Sonic games at last.
Fuck, it would be awesome. But they merged with Sammy didn't they? How would this work in an hypothetical situation?
Mass_Pincup
Banned
And now they own Atlus...
Haha, if Atlus were 2,000+ people... Now that'd be something.
Ah, I see what you're getting at. Though I assume whatever hypothetical scenario this came from would be if Sega were to sell Atlus by itself.
That would be horrible, all of Segas best titles are PC games.
KojiKnight
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This. It bodes ill for Persona... oh and I guess everything else they do too.
Orniletter
Banned
Yeah and they are are profitable wholly owned subsidary of SEGA...which itself is part of SEGA-Sammy holdings which is even bigger and eclipses (for example) Nintendo in sheer employee-count.
It's just not going to happen, Atlus is successfull in it's niche (on Sony and Nintendo systems) . You don't sell something that's doing well...and Sony can't (and won't try) to get everything.
EDIT: Ooops, I'm sorry, I could've sworn the poster I quoted said that Sony should buy SEGA as a whole, thats where I got the 2000 employees from.
They really do not like SEGA of America, they didn't even throw them a bone with their mobile games. Development staff seems to be mostly unaffected, but good luck to those who'll sadly lose their jobs.
European Development Arm
The Creative Assembly - Just released Alien: Isolation, working on Attlia expansion for Rome II: Total War, Total War: Warhammer and Total War Arena.
Sports Interactive - Football Manager series
Hardlight - Mobile games and PC ports. Their Sonic Dash game had 65 million downloads.
American Development Arm
Three Rings - Developer of Spiral Knights, does a bunch of mobile games.
Relic Entertainment - Finished working on Company of Heroes and it's expansion, I suppose Dawn of War 3 is next?
They've got a pretty substantial Western division as far as development goes.
European Development Arm
The Creative Assembly - Just released Alien: Isolation, working on Attlia expansion for Rome II: Total War, Total War: Warhammer and Total War Arena.
Sports Interactive - Football Manager series
Hardlight - Mobile games and PC ports. Their Sonic Dash game had 65 million downloads.
American Development Arm
Three Rings - Developer of Spiral Knights, does a bunch of mobile games.
Relic Entertainment - Finished working on Company of Heroes and it's expansion, I suppose Dawn of War 3 is next?
They've got a pretty substantial Western division as far as development goes.
No, it really doesn't.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Don't do that. They would instantly kill CA and Relic.
biglittleps
Member
F2P and multiplayer gamers killed SEGA(will do others too and making them to move to F2P model and online only games slowly). Everybody expect more multiplayer oriented and won't pay $60 like before unless they receive 85+ reviews. Also the development cost has increased for new consoles so they have can't survive with like before. They have to go F2P online games now instead of $60 games as every average online games can turn profit but $40-60$ dollar can't without good sales.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
If Sega ever was for sale and Nintendo was interested, I'm quite sure we'd be talking about their japanese development arm and console franchises such as Sonic, Monkey Ball, or Virtua Fighter. Sammy could sell this part of Sega if they decided on stopping console development, without it affecting their PC games all too much. I'm sure people asking for Nintendo to buy Sega do not mean everything, but the japanese console-Sega. I'd be quite fine with that by the way.
mejin
Member
Plus Atlus too.
the thoroughbred
Member
And what happens to Treasure?
Can't they just release digital only releases on the consoles.
Can't they just release digital only releases on the consoles.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Oh I see. So SEGA JP is safe
Wow they have a lot more studios than I thought they would.
Die Squirrel Die
Member
Nintendo doesn't seem to have either the capacity or inclination to revive many of their own long forgotten franchises, why would do they add Sega's dead IPs to list of games that people keep asking for them to produce?
Samurai_Heart
Member
When I made this image didn't think it'll be that relevant to Sega so much:
Sorry to hear the news to everyone affected by this =(
Sorry to hear the news to everyone affected by this =(
Ban Puncher
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
WTF? Are they planning to release big budget games at all? I mean there's TW: Attila was announced not so long ago, not to mention the fact that there is also new Warhammer game on the way from CA.
LittleToaster
Member
I hope this doesn't affect downloadable games published by Sega of America on the console networks.
And_Gignac
Member
What about Atlus games though?
So, the PDF mentions downsizing of business structures mainly the amusement businesses (that is, arcades), reposition personel from those to areas of growth (digital, online PC, mobile), moving the San Francisco offices to South California, and layoffs.
Don't think they're gonna completely quit retail console games, yet.
When I made this image didn't think it'll be that relevant to Sega so much:
Sorry to hear the news to everyone affected by this =(
Dude...I love cheesecakes! That image is relevant, funny, and mentions my favorite desert of all time!
Good shit man!
damn. so that's it for sega of america? i mean completely pulling out of america (aside from atlus usa) is really an end of an era.
atlus will keep on keepin' on, i guess. they will probably have first rights to refusal for any japanese games that have potential regarding localization (mobile or otherwise). doesn't seem like there will be much though outside of sonic and maybe some stuff from their western devs.
atlus will keep on keepin' on, i guess. they will probably have first rights to refusal for any japanese games that have potential regarding localization (mobile or otherwise). doesn't seem like there will be much though outside of sonic and maybe some stuff from their western devs.
The article in the OP fails to mention that they're moving the San Francisco offices to South California.
GabeTheGrouch76
Member
A shame that people are losing their jobs because of this, but I'm honestly not surprised. The chickens of the overvalued Sonic Boom initiative (along with the Nintendo-exclusive Sonic partnership, the Aliens: Colonial Marines controversy, and pretty much every other shenanigan the publisher has pulled over the last decade), have finally come home to roost at Sega.
Sidewinder
Member
Damn, SEGA dies a little more ;(
Focusing on the growth of digital distribution and streamlining physical packaging operations...how is this bad news?
Here is one company actually making moves to secure its future, and people are crying doom?
You guys better get used to it, as there is going to be a lot more of this going forward.
Here is one company actually making moves to secure its future, and people are crying doom?
You guys better get used to it, as there is going to be a lot more of this going forward.
DeuceGamer
Member
Sad to hear. I hope they will still release some titles at retail for consoles.
Still wonder why they purchased Atlus...
Still wonder why they purchased Atlus...
oh what!?
wow. if people weren't a little worried about atlus usa, this could be a good time to start. i don't know if any entity that owns sega would let them and atlus have two separate offices so close to each other (atlus being in irvine).
Not much at all, since it's not in development.