Quoting the number one 'fans' defence doesn't make it any less valid though. Don't want to support the practice of paid character, skin and monster DLC? Fine, don't buy it. Future maps and game modes will be free to avoid splintering the player base (a great decision in my eyes) and you still get to play with and against those who do own extra content.
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2K has given two middle fingers to Evolve's digital early adopters
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Quoting the number one 'fans' defence doesn't make it any less valid though. Don't want to support the practice of paid character, skin and monster DLC? Fine, don't buy it. Future maps and game modes will be free to avoid splintering the player base (a great decision in my eyes) and you still get to play with and against those who do own extra content.
Yes. You can buy new (currently unannounced) monsters for 15$ later on.
I dunno that sounds pretty steep to me.
paid maps and crazy numbers of bots in the game were what turned me off
Yes it's too much in my opinion.
But as already said, you don't need to buy it to play against it.
Just can't choose for yourself.
aiat_gamer
Banned
How can it not though? I like the game, I want to enjoy all it has to offer. Just because I don't want to pre-order, I get punished by paying for Behemoth? And for that much?
aiat_gamer
Banned
"Fine, don't buy it". Yeah that attitude is really helping this game right now! I see no reason to support a full 60 bucks priced game any more than buying the game and any reasonably priced dlc they offer. Based on the buzz around the game, they already have deterred many potential buyers including myself. As for future free maps, that highly depends on how good the game does. I doubt they will be able to do it if the game does not sell well enough.
thewhitehawk
Member
I don't have any sympathy for people that pre-order. Yes, that's scumbaggy of 2K, but so are pre-order sales, both on the side of the consumer and publisher.
In my opinion, the more damage a pre-order can do to a consumer hopefully the sooner the industry will align itself and get rid of this immensely shitty practice.
Other than the gameplay, which has a bit of interesting nuance to it, I have zero interest in Evolve and all of their shitty monetization practices. If you support those practices, you are on the opposite political spectrum from me and I don't care about what ill falls upon you, because you put yourself in that very situation despite knowing better.
In my opinion, the more damage a pre-order can do to a consumer hopefully the sooner the industry will align itself and get rid of this immensely shitty practice.
Other than the gameplay, which has a bit of interesting nuance to it, I have zero interest in Evolve and all of their shitty monetization practices. If you support those practices, you are on the opposite political spectrum from me and I don't care about what ill falls upon you, because you put yourself in that very situation despite knowing better.
Wow, yeah, 2K is seriously shitty for not giving you an option to upgrade your $5 pricing error edition. You lucked out and managed to get something essentially without paying for it and now you want to get on here and complain?
Guess what? You aren't a "digital early adopter," you are practically a thief.
Guess what? You aren't a "digital early adopter," you are practically a thief.
It's no skin off my nose, personally. I pre-ordered Evolve for $5 and, if need be, will just buy the PCMRE when it's discounted to a point I deem acceptable. That'll teach 'em!
I am not complaining for my own sake, something you would have known if you'd taken five minutes to read through the thread or even just the OP.
scrubpatrol
Member
Great video. Perfectly encapsulates my views in a nice tidy package.
DragonSworne
Banned
I guess people who get games on discount are thiefs. Might as well add people who get review copies, free copies from their friends, free copies from employees, etc.
DunderHassan
Member
Haha wow, the ignorance.
So if some got it for $5, everybody else who actually paid the full price should be punished for it too?
Good grief
As shitty as their open communication about their DLC is what would've happen if they didn't announce that you get the 4th monster free when you pre-order and just have the dlc's available to purchase beside the main game (which you don't need to play the game with others who have it like any other game).
This is not Street Fighter X Tekken where about 1/4th of the cast (completely finished) was locked ON DISK and could be easily unlocked on modded consoles.
Yes, what they do is kinda dumb but please don't talk shit about the game without even playing it.
I really enjoyed the game but I want to play with my friends and as far as it seems only a few buy this game but most of them gonna buy MH4U so I will play it instead buy if it's gonna be cheap on a steam sale I definitely gonna pick it up.
The lack of different modes and an interesting Singleplayer is also a bit sad but the game itself is more fun than most games (like Titanfall).
This is not Street Fighter X Tekken where about 1/4th of the cast (completely finished) was locked ON DISK and could be easily unlocked on modded consoles.
Yes, what they do is kinda dumb but please don't talk shit about the game without even playing it.
I really enjoyed the game but I want to play with my friends and as far as it seems only a few buy this game but most of them gonna buy MH4U so I will play it instead buy if it's gonna be cheap on a steam sale I definitely gonna pick it up.
The lack of different modes and an interesting Singleplayer is also a bit sad but the game itself is more fun than most games (like Titanfall).
Head.spawn
Junior Member
I'll take that $5 version off your hands. PM a brotha...
I do, when Game Informer and all those other sites hyped up Evolve to be the best shooter for 2014 (various e3 threads)
Meanwhile everyone here is left 's ranching their heads like "huh? People actually like this game"
OsirisBlack
Banned
Even if you don't like how they are handling the dlc the game is still enjoyable. I had a blast with it during the beta. Played it on PC,XB1 and PS4. Pretty much played it exclusively while it was available.
That attitude and the choice it relates to may not be helping many games right now but the fact is, as a consumer, it's a choice you can make without fragmenting Evolve's community at launch or in the future. I really enjoyed my time with the beta, so much so that I will be picking the game up on release (not at full price I might add). The promise of free map packs and game modes is something the community will be expecting Turtle Rock and 2K to honor, success or not.
legacyzero
Banned
2K's greed has driven this game's hype into the ground for me. Screw you, 2K for doing this to Turtle Rock's game.
Sadly that's what turned 2 of my friends off the game despite having fun during the beta...
It's soooo stupid cause I really want to play with them but noooo... 2k has to be the most shitty Publisher out there and fuck things up with horrible communication >_>
old manatee
Banned
Agreed.
Well, if you recieved it as a gift be grateful, why let such dumb shit bother you. I swear gamers these days are such whiners about everything. A simple solution, dont buy the game and buy a different game from a publisher yu respect.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
I agree that they should probably add an upgrade option.
I also think that pre-ordering a game is an unnecessary and stupid risk for a consumer. Don't frickin' do it if this bothers you.
EDIT: I suppose you can't really get around a gift. I don't know anyone who would gift me Evolve though. That would be a weird move.
I also think that pre-ordering a game is an unnecessary and stupid risk for a consumer. Don't frickin' do it if this bothers you.
EDIT: I suppose you can't really get around a gift. I don't know anyone who would gift me Evolve though. That would be a weird move.
Oh, I'm sorry. Did my post have anything to do with anybody other than the OP? He got a game for a tiny fraction of its asking price and then complains that the company putting it out isn't adequately responsive to his need to upgrade. Had he "paid full price" this wouldn't be an issue for him, he could simply cancel and reorder the other edition. Maybe read the thread?
Because 2k isn't bending over to accommodate him they are "screwing over early adopters."
spindoctor
Member
Are people deliberately missing the point of this thread?
There are 3 versions of the game. The op bought version A. He's now asking for an upgrade path to buy version B or C without having to buy the entire game again. This would be a mutually beneficial move for both the customer and the company.
How does it matter what price he paid for his copy?
He happens to live in a country where the base game alone costs $80. Screw him for not paying full price right?
An upgrade path is not some unimaginable, unprecedented concession he's asking for. He's actually willing to pay the company more money for their (what I consider bullshit) DLC and they won't let him.
I completely agree with you that an upgrade path should be available once a game is released and you are locked into a specific version. Right now anybody can move between tiers at their leisure He just cant cancel because he got gifted a cheap copy courtesy of a pricing error. Game companies do some shitty stuff but this isn't shitty. People willing to pay for the product have options while he doesn't. It seems to me like a fair tradeoff for someone who scored a five dollar game but lo and behold everybody wants to cry foul.
EDIT: And I completely agree that their DLC plan, and the fact that they have talked so much about it pre-release, is total bullshit. That's why they despite loving L4D I am not touching that thing.
User 479360
Banned
This type of stuff doesn't bug me as much as it bothers some, but it really does feel as if 2K is screwing over its paying customers with this release.
It makes me glad that I think it looks boring as shit. Though, I MAY borrow it from the library to see if it is as shitty as it looks.
It makes me glad that I think it looks boring as shit. Though, I MAY borrow it from the library to see if it is as shitty as it looks.
You sure it isn't an oversight? They are either not aware of such an option, or the people who make the decisions are not aware. It is a large company after all.
Devil's Advocate, but it is plausible.
I know we are at completely opposite ends of the spectrum on DLC purchases. You buy just about every piece of downloadable content for your games, I can probably count the amount I have purchased on one hand. So I realize this is more important to you.
Visualante2
Member
Stepping aside the Indonesia problem. I think this is something Valve should mandate on. They need to protect their customers from having to double dip. I suspect everything will be available for sale after launch anyway. Guess that's the price you pay for buying ala carte.
spindoctor
Member
Why is it relevant how much he paid for the game? How does it make this issue less valid?
What about someone who didn't get the game for cheap? If I were to buy the game right now and gift it to you but you wanted the higher tier edition, you'd be shit out of luck. Does the problem start to register then?
This is why I don't care about not being able to upgrade.
But calling me a thief isn't acceptable, you're an idiot.
While I agree that an upgrade path should be available, you realize that it does matter what price he paid for his copy? If I buy something on sale from Best Buy, I can't exchange it for another product later, and expect the full value in reimbursement.
I get that other companies have allowed this, and that's really awesome for them. I guess I just can't fault 2K for not doing it. I don't think it's scummy or nefarious.
Caffeine
Member
yup same after the 2 tests they had I was already turned off by this game the dlc shit was the nail in the coffin for not even preordering.
Again, this thread isn't about me and, personally, I'm not overly fussed if 2K ignores the issue since the PCMRE isn't going anywhere and so I can just buy it later, when it's discounted.
Actually, I can ask Valve to revert my copy back to a gift and sell it, but again, as I have already pointed out to you, the lack of upgrade options doesn't affect me.
People have been asking about upgrade options since the editions appeared: on the game's Steam Community hub, Turtle Rock's website, 2K's website, and even via 2K Support. 2K is well aware.
I was on the evolve hype train , but it went to fast and the rails were to rocky.. I fell off.
In my opinion they are really botching their approach for this game from a hype building experience .. preorder bullshit and claiming 1 monster is a $15, - value is bullshit.
I will wait and see until after release what the comments.
In my opinion they are really botching their approach for this game from a hype building experience .. preorder bullshit and claiming 1 monster is a $15, - value is bullshit.
I will wait and see until after release what the comments.
How are you incapable of understanding that my comments were specific to the OP? You can spin this into a wider problem if you like, but I fail to see how either 2K or Valve should be accommodating.
For the third time, this isn't a "Woe is me!" thread. Frankly, I find it completely baffling that some people here have reached that conclusion since at no point in this thread do I complain about being affected. Even more strange is that you continue to insist otherwise.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
Banned
I agree with this. Don't pre-order, ever, for anything.
DunderHassan
Member
Did YOU read the thread yourself?
Also, you know some actually receive gifts without being from price errors, and those aren't eligible for refunds.
Anyway, so he's bringing up a good point, complaining or not, and you're going for a lame personal attack, cheers.
Fbh
Member
Lol so you got the game $5 but it wasn't enough so now you also want to upgrade to basically get a chaper special edition.
Can't you just be happy enough that you got the game for a price that's probably going to take like 2 years to be matches by a steam sale.
As for people that pre-ordered it. As it was said, they can just cancel the pre order and get one of the other editions
And those who got t was a gift. Well bad luck.
Still, when I get a gift I try to enjoy it, I don't go running to the store to return it and get something better. Try not to be a dick
Can't you just be happy enough that you got the game for a price that's probably going to take like 2 years to be matches by a steam sale.
As for people that pre-ordered it. As it was said, they can just cancel the pre order and get one of the other editions
And those who got t was a gift. Well bad luck.
Still, when I get a gift I try to enjoy it, I don't go running to the store to return it and get something better. Try not to be a dick
Fair enough.
Either the information isn't getting kicked up the chain to the right people, or they are completely ignoring the situation.
Being completely pedantic and fallacious?
Well even Turtle rock defended the DLC plan that is even more weird.
Well, Turtle Rock can't exactly throw 2K under the bus. That'd be the very definition of burning a bridge.
What else should they do?
Admit that 2k screwed up prior to release?
That would kill them
Honestly, I could personally not care less. I bought the game myself for 5$. It was my choice and i did it because it was goddamn cheap.
2K are some greedy bastards and I could see this shit coming in a long way. Gamers have let this happen. If we stopped pre-ordering games all this pre-order inclusive bullshit would probably happen, but not as cruel as with 2K and Evolve.
I see all this as us (the gamers fault). 2K knew that it would work because a lot of us are pre-ordering.
Yes, 2K are assholes, but we who pre-ordered the game let it happen.
2K are some greedy bastards and I could see this shit coming in a long way. Gamers have let this happen. If we stopped pre-ordering games all this pre-order inclusive bullshit would probably happen, but not as cruel as with 2K and Evolve.
I see all this as us (the gamers fault). 2K knew that it would work because a lot of us are pre-ordering.
Yes, 2K are assholes, but we who pre-ordered the game let it happen.
Fbh
Member
Except your OP includes false information:
That's not true. Anyone who just pre-ordered the game can easily cancel their pre order, get a refund and then pre order one of the special editions. Except, of course, if you got it for $5, like you, in which case the whole whining and moaning is quite ridiculous
This is an issue that ONLY affects people that got the game as a gift, and not the $5 version at that. And personally I don't see such a big issue in that.
As I said, personally, I've allways considered the act of returning a gift to get something better to be a dick move. Just be happy someone cared anough about you to get you the game and enjoy it