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2K has given two middle fingers to Evolve's digital early adopters

Fbh said:
Lol so you got the game $5 but it wasn't enough so now you also want to upgrade to basically get a chaper special edition.
Can't you just be happy enough that you got the game for a price that's probably going to take like 2 years to be matches by a steam sale.

As for people that pre-ordered it. As it was said, they can just cancel the pre order and get one of the other editions


And those who got t was a gift. Well bad luck.
Still, when I get a gift I try to enjoy it, I don't go running to the store to return it and get something better. Try not to be a dick
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2 years? This will bomba like crazy, it will be 5$ in a year or less.
 
Fbh said:
Except your OP includes false information:



That's not true. Anyone who just pre-ordered the game can easily cancel their pre order, get a refund and then pre order one of the special editions. Except, of course, if you got it for $5, like you, in which case the whole whining and moaning is quite ridiculous

This is an issue that ONLY affects people that got the game as a gift, and not the $5 version at that. And personally I don't see such a big issue in that.
As I said, personally, I've allways considered the act of returning a gift to get something better to be a dick move. Just be happy someone cared anough about you to get you the game and enjoy it
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How exactly does that sentence serve as evidence that I'm complaining about the lack of upgrade options for my own sake?
 
Fbh said:
Except your OP includes false information:



That's not true. Anyone who just pre-ordered the game can easily cancel their pre order, get a refund and then pre order one of the special editions. Except, of course, if you got it for $5, like you, in which case the whole whining and moaning is quite ridiculous

This is an issue that ONLY affects people that got the game as a gift, and not the $5 version at that. And personally I don't see such a big issue in that.
As I said, personally, I've allways considered the act of returning a gift to get something better to be a dick move. Just be happy someone cared anough about you to get you the game and enjoy it
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Welp, citation needed there mate. Steam is not the only place you can preorder, and while there it's a button you press to get your money back (in valve bucks, not real money mind you), everywhere else its not that easy and not guranteed.
 
JaseC said:
How exactly does that sentence serve as evidence that I'm complaining about the lack of upgrade options for my own sake?
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Let's see:

-Out of the big GAF community you were the one that decided this was big enough to create a thread about
-Your OP makes it sound like an issue that affects anyone who pre-ordered the game, which is false
- In reallity it mostly affects people that got it as a gift or that got it for $5
- You just happened to get it for $5, making you a part of the reduced number of people that are affected by the lack of an upgrade otion

But sure, it has nothing to do with you
 
Fbh said:
Let's see:

-Out of the big GAF community you were the one that decided this was big enough to create a thread about
-Your OP [made] it sound like an issue that affects anyone who pre-ordered the game, which [was] false
- In reallity it mostly affects people that got it as a gift or that got it for $5
- You just happened to get it for $5, making you a part of the reduced number of people that are affected by the lack of an upgrade otion

But sure, it has nothing to do with you
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That's some specious reasoning. If you believe that I'm outright lying about how the issue affects me personally, well, there's not a lot I can do about that.
 
Labor said:
Gotta turn our backs on preorder culture
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It's the only way for me to live now.
 
Aint gonna lie... I REALLY miss playing this game after the Beta finally clicked for me. More than likely gonna be there day one. :)
 
I don't get why there isn't an upgrade option for it. You'd think it would help facilitate those sales 2K so desperately wants, even if it turns out to be a minority of their consumer base. It's unbelievable how messed up the marketing and support structure of this game is. I mean, they almost had a slam dunk with the free maps and modes, but turn around and jack up the price of everything else with terrible PR attached.

That said, some of the posts here are laughable, but GAF gonna GAF.
 
Very surprised there isn't an upgrade option as I thought it was pretty standard these days, regardless of how cheap the 'standard' version was obtained.
 
Big_Al said:
Very surprised there isn't an upgrade option as I thought it was pretty standard these days, regardless of how cheap the 'standard' version was obtained.
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Actually offering those options would be a good way to get a little more money out of the $5-thieves
(me)
. They certainly won't go 'no upgrade? welp, then I'll just do a refund and pay full price'. The alternative would be 'got it cheap so why not upgrade?'
 
derExperte said:
Actually offering those options would be a good way to get a little more money out of the $5-thieves
(me)
. They certainly won't go 'no upgrade? welp, then I'll just do a refund and pay full price'. The alternative would be 'got it cheap so why not upgrade?'
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Exactly seems like a odd thing to do.
 
Seems pretty silly for 2k to not allow it. Like has been said before, even if someone got the game at a cheap price 2k makes more money by allowing them to upgrade. If people can't upgrade they most likely will just pass on the dlc or wait for a discounted season pass
 
impact said:
I dunno why you're not just happy you got a new game for 5 bucks....

Strange thread
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blackjaw said:
My thoughts exactly...
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I don't care that I can't upgrade. I make this exceedingly clear in the OP and throughout the thread -- the content itself holds no value to me and so it's no skin off my nose if I acquire said DLC via an upgrade or by purchasing the full PCMRE at a later date. Those who actually intend to play the game feel differently, however.
 
I'm not even fully versed in the bullshit surrounding Evolve, but the fact that there is so much buzz around it is reason enough for me to ignore it. I do typically buy games day one just because I want to and can usually get them for less than $40, but I won't opening support shitty practices by devs.

Rockstar can do whatever they want though. I am buying GTAV (PC) day one and there is nothing anyone can do or say to stop me from doing so
 
So wait, I have to be missing something here. If I'm understanding this right, OP (or some "friend" who gifted copies) exploited some sort of price mistake that allowed him to prebuy a $60 game for $5 and he has really made a thread complaining about 2K not upgrading his $5 purchase to some premium edition they announced after the fact? I can not be understanding this right, cause this is the most preposterous thread backfire I could ever envision.
 
deoee said:
The tone in this thread.... Pure hate.

I don't get why people consider this DLC model to be the worst. It's easily one of the better ones out there.
Does not split the community with paid maps like Titanfall, Cod, BF etc.
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Hate is obvious. People are now seeing the game is really a product and not art to be admired. I find paid maps rather stupid too but I never play those games. I have no feeling good or ill of this game not my jam. But I can understand why some people are against this game. If you over do dlc you turn people against you.
 
Reallink said:
So wait, I have to be missing something here. If I'm understanding this right, OP (or some "friend" who gifted copies) exploited some sort of price mistake that allowed him to prebuy a $60 for $5 and he has really made a thread complaining about 2K not upgrading his $5 purchase to some premium edition they announced after the fact? I can not be understanding this right, cause this is the most preposterous thread backfire I could ever envision.
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the OP is pretty clear

Edit: Just to make this abundantly clear: No, I didn't make this thread for my own sake as some have presumed. I've no intention of actually playing the game and the PCMRE isn't going anywhere, so if need be I'll just pick it up on sale.
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Reallink said:
So wait, I have to be missing something here. If I'm understanding this right, OP exploited some sort of price mistake that allowed him to preorder a $60 for $5 and he has really made a thread complaining about 2K not upgrading his $5 preorder to some premium edition they announced after the fact? I can not be understanding this right, cause this is the most preposterous thread backfire I could ever envision.
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You're misunderstanding and frankly, I think Jase shouldn't have included that tidbit in the first place, it just blurs the intent of the entire post and causes people to react in a negative manner.

The point he's trying to make is that 2K aren't allowing those who pre-ordered earlier on to upgrade to the higher tiers without re-purchasing the game. While part of that reason might be because of the price error, that doesn't detract from the fact that it's still a rather questionable move to make, especially in light of the fact that it's been up for preorder for a while now and the majority of buyers (who had no idea about the price error), are now forced to repurchase the game if they want a higher tier.
 
Reallink said:
So wait, I have to be missing something here. If I'm understanding this right, OP (or some "friend" who gifted copies) exploited some sort of price mistake that allowed him to prebuy a $60 for $5 and he has really made a thread complaining about 2K not upgrading his $5 purchase to some premium edition they announced after the fact? I can not be understanding this right, cause this is the most preposterous thread backfire I could ever envision.
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dat reading comprehension.

elelunicy said:
More like 3 years in reality. I can list a ton of games 2012 or old that have yet to hit $5 on Steam.
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It's a 2K game. If it bombs it will be discounted to hell and back in no time.
 
bigzgod said:
You're misunderstanding and frankly, I think Jase shouldn't have included that tidbit in the first place, it just blurs the intent of the entire post and causes people to react in a negative manner.

The point he's trying to make is that 2K aren't allowing those who pre-ordered earlier on to upgrade to the higher tiers without re-purchasing the game. While part of that reason might be because of the price error, that doesn't detract from the fact that it's still a rather questionable move to make, especially in light of the fact that it's been up for preorder for a while now and the majority of buyers (who had no idea about the price error), are now forced to repurchase the game if they want a higher tier.
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I still don't understand what the issue is, you cancel your legitimate $60 prebuy and rebuy the upgraded pack for $60. Is he advocating for people who perhaps used one of the seemingly perpetual 20% GMG codes (which has been live plenty of times since this issue would have surfaced) or people who might not be aware of the pack upgrade? Is this a Steam Gifting issue, where by gifts can't be refunded? That seems like an issue he should be taking up with Valve.
 
Reallink said:
I still don't understand what the issue is, you cancel your legitimate $60 prebuy and rebuy the upgraded pack for $60. Is he advocating for people who perhaps used one of the seemingly perpetual 20% GMG codes (which has been live plenty of times since this issue would have surfaced) or people who might not be aware of the pack upgrade? Is this a Steam Gifting issue, where by gifts can't be refunded? That seems like an issue he should be taking up with Valve.
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... who would take a month just to send him a canned copypasta reply

OR alternatively 2K could, oh I don't know, not be complete dickbags and just enable people to upgrade. Believe it or not - there are people (probably more than just a handful) who received Evolve as full-priced $60 gifts who are now stuck with the base version
 
Reallink said:
I still don't understand what the issue is, you cancel your legitimate $60 prebuy and rebuy the upgraded pack for $60. Is he advocating for people who perhaps used one of the seemingly perpetual 20% GMG codes (which has been live plenty of times since this issue would have surfaced) or people who might not be aware of the pack upgrade? Is this a Steam Gifting issue, where by gifts can't be refunded? That seems like an issue he should be taking up with Valve.
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Not everyone buys from Steam directly or uses their own store. For example, Evolve costs $80 from the Australian Steam Store. If instead, that person asks a friend (or a trader) to buy it for them from the UK store, at £34.99 ($52.70), then they would not be able to request a refund and would be stuck in this situation.
 
lashman said:
... who would take a month just to send him a canned copypasta reply

OR alternatively 2K could, oh I don't know, not be complete dickbags and just enable people to upgrade. Believe it or not - there are people (probably more than just a handful) who received Evolve as full-priced $60 gifts who are now stuck with the base version
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Again, if that's the issue, that's Valve's problem. What does 2k have to do with Steam's shit (
non-existent
) customer service or potentially nonsensical policies? If you were launching a $60 game and you knew a bunch people stock piled $5 copies and sold/gifted them around, being honest about it, can you really say you would unilaterally upgrade every copy to some premium edition? Personally, I sure as hell wouldn't.
 
Reallink said:
Again, if that's the issue, that's Valve's problem. What does 2k have to do with Steam's shit (
non-existent
) customer service or potentially nonsensical policies?
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... or, like I said, 2K could just add upgrade options ... like pretty much EVERY OTHER publisher out there who has more than one version of their game up for preorder on steam

Reallink said:
If you were launching a $60 game and you knew a bunch people stock piled $5 copies and sold/gifted them around, being honest about it, can you really say you would unilaterally upgrade every copy to some premium edition? Personally, I sure as hell wouldn't.
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yes, I would ... because it would mean more money for me (as the dev) ....

what's the likelihood of those people (who got it for $5) forking over $80-100 right now ... as opposed to $10-30 for an upgrade? my guess would be - slim to none
 
Reallink said:
Again, if that's the issue, that's Valve's problem. What does 2k have to do with Steam's shit (
non-existent
) customer service or potentially nonsensical policies? If you were launching a $60 game and you knew a bunch people stock piled $5 copies and sold/gifted them around, being honest about it, can you really say you would unilaterally upgrade every copy to some premium edition? Personally, I sure as hell wouldn't.
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He's not asking for a free upgrade, he's asking for a upgrade path to convert your copy to the best edition. That would, of course, cost money.
 
SJRB said:
The [artificial?] hype during last E3 was pretty obnoxious.
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There must be some kind of backstory to that. At the time the praise seemed near unanimous which, given everything I've learned about the game since then, seems rather unlikely.
 
Reallink said:
So he's was hoping to get a $100 game for $45?
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I've stated how the situation as it currently stands affects me almost a dozen times now: it doesn't. If there are to be no upgrade options then I'll just wait for a sale on the full PCMRE package because I've no intention of actually making use of the content and therefore don't mind waiting. What's important to me is that I secured the pre-order incentive DLC by buying the game before release (I doubt said content is going to remain exclusive to pre-orders, but better safe than sorry).
 
Pandy said:
There must be some kind of backstory to that. At the time the praise seemed near unanimous which, given everything I've learned about the game since then, seems rather unlikely.
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There's no backstory. As someone else said, games like Evolve demo well at these shows for the short time people play it, which results in good first impressions. Same with Titanfall.
 
This thread is painful to read, so many people that just fail miserably at basic reading comprehension.

I agree with the OP. There is no reason an upgrade option should not be available - and everyone that's saying "people can just rebuy the game" is blatantly missing the point.
 
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