Major world events and wedding videos are going to be filmed in portrait mode
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AuthenticM
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Look people, the issue with Portrait mode is simple.
- You have 2 eyes.
- Are they stacked vertically, one directly above the other?
- No.
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vatstep
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It doesn't really bother me.
Especially when something unexpected/sudden happens and a person pulls out their phone to record it, it doesn't really surprise me that the first thought into their mind isn't, "Gee, don't forget to turn to landscape mode!" It's just a quick, instinctual reaction to hold your phone the way you do most of the rest of the time. It's going to happen sometimes; just deal with it.
Especially when something unexpected/sudden happens and a person pulls out their phone to record it, it doesn't really surprise me that the first thought into their mind isn't, "Gee, don't forget to turn to landscape mode!" It's just a quick, instinctual reaction to hold your phone the way you do most of the rest of the time. It's going to happen sometimes; just deal with it.
Sho_Nuff82
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The other day this girl sent me a 6 second 360p portrait video of the Patriots' SB parade. I couldn't make out anything that was being said or the faces of any of the player(s?) in the frame.
At that point, why even bother sharing?
At that point, why even bother sharing?
CharmingCharlie
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Hell when ever I complain about black bars in landscape videos (because of differences in aspect ratio) I usually see people going "yeah there are black bars but you get to see everything that was filmed man". God forbid should I say "well when I come across a film with black bars at the top and bottom I zoom in". If I say that you would think I murdered a whole bunch of puppies or something.
So basically black bars with landscape = cool/all detail yada yada but black bars with portrait = YOU SHOULD BE ON SOME LIST YOU MONSTER.
Now for the record whenever I shoot video I always do it in landscape mode. I think part of the "problem" is the natural way we hold the phone. The default way to hold a phone is in portrait mode, it feels odd to hold a phone in landscape mode. So till that changes I think we should just accept and embrace our portaitopia.
So was I. Kids do some funny things sometimes, and usually when I film it, it's in portrait, like when they're at a table it something.
People are usually taller than they are wide and if all you want to capture is what they're doing, portrait orientation is better.
Air Zombie Meat
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Yeah, most of the time people get upset about portrait mode it's just some shitty fight video or something. Who cares? I usually don't even register that it's portrait until I see the complaining about it. Obviously landscape is better but when we're talking about low res amateur videos it's not that big a deal.
Because being able to look up and see the code, even if you don't want to, is still more useful than having over a third of the screen used up by whitespace
I admin Linux boxes with a portrait screen even though tmux exists and allows scrollback, it's much better than a mostly black screen.
Look people, the issue with Portrait mode is simple.
- You have 2 eyes.
- Are they stacked vertically, one directly above the other?
- No.
Should we blame portrait photos too?
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PetriP-TNT
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Code lines are usually rather short, so you don't really need the horizontal space but having vertical space can be very convenient so you don't have to use scroll wheels (why would you want to take your hands off the keyboard anyway) or search functions.
That said, I just rock split view
DragonSworne
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Blame the phone manufacturers and not the people. If it was more comfortable to hold a phone sideways without two hands then there would be more videos recorded in landscape.
Because a portrait photograph typically has some thought behind it. I actually take a lot of portrait landscape shots, but I put something in the foreground middle and the horizon so that it carries your eye through the frame.
A vertical video however, has tons of extraneous information like the ground, and the sky, and also can and does cut out other people in the "scene" whereas a video shot in landscape mode doesn't have the extra crap a vertical video does and allows the person shooting to capture more than one person in the scene.
Beyond that, our eyes are side by side and numerous studies have shown that humans see a more horizontal panoramic view of the world, just naturally.
Melon Husk
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Rotate the camera sensor 90 degrees. Problem solved.
Edit: Did you know our eyes' aspect ratio, if you can call it that, is close to the golden ratio? 1.618. Reports say it varies from person to person between 1.56 - 1.73.
Edit: Did you know our eyes' aspect ratio, if you can call it that, is close to the golden ratio? 1.618. Reports say it varies from person to person between 1.56 - 1.73.
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RoadHazard
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I code in widescreen, and there's no useless whitespace on my screen. There are project browsers and all kinds of useful things on the sides. The height of the screen is enough for whatever block of code I'm currently looking at.
Osiris
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terrisus
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People don't care.
And - my impression/feeling - most things "captured" that way are intended to be cheap and disposable, and won't be relevant in 25 years.
Do you still have your collections of Polaroid Instant photos?
Coreda
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Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
I actually have some near 40 year old Polaroids (Taken in 1976), the effect that length of time has had on their colour is amazing, psychedelic childhood yo!
terrisus
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Portrait monitors are a popular thing, they rock for productivity.
Also vertical shooters.
Beardz
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Time to address this issue.
You have to understand something, when someone films in portrait is because:
You only need one hand, maybe you have something on the other hand, maybe a drink?
Is less obvious that you're filming, this is why most of the fights / weird videos are filmed this way. Other people don't realize that you're recording them.
You're closer to the action, you don't need to move back to record the subjects.
Got it!?
You have to understand something, when someone films in portrait is because:
You only need one hand, maybe you have something on the other hand, maybe a drink?
Is less obvious that you're filming, this is why most of the fights / weird videos are filmed this way. Other people don't realize that you're recording them.
You're closer to the action, you don't need to move back to record the subjects.
Got it!?
Oppo
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Portrait monitors are a popular thing, they rock for productivity.
It's true, I run this setup sometimes. it's godly for referencing long docs while working.
I made a thread about this portrait video thing ages ago. I still think it's a UX problem that could be solved fairly easily. Simply display the control labels only in horizontal mode, with a warning to "rotate to start video", with an option to override (no I really want portrait video).
That said, there is a case to be made that the growing number of "default" portrait screens (phones, tablets) make portrait video a little more than totally undesirable.
Anecdotally, i have noticed with iPhones, when you tell people they can shoot with the + button as a shutter (rather than fumbling for the on-screen button), this is much easier and it encourages people to hold the phone horizontally, like a regular PnS camera.
Not only are you not closer to the action, vertical recording makes it seem like your further away by including lots of extraneous space above and below the subject.
I wondered when there would be a dedicated portrait thread. As much as I dislike the protrait mode commentaries in certain threads I do find the limitations of portrait mode to be frustrating in their own way.
There really needs to be a pre-installed app that auto corrects for this.
There really needs to be a pre-installed app that auto corrects for this.
But when you are filming you should get some of the surroundings for context, and to allow for movement without moving out of frame. It isn't the same as photography where you may want to completely isolate the subject
Beardz
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I mean, you are next to the action. I'm not saying that thanks to the portrait things are looking closer.
Takamura-San
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I cannot wait for Shia LaBeouf to direct the first film in Portrait mode. Shall be a glorious day to be on the internet.
Does it matter? Most of people these days "save" their photos and video via instagram more so than any type of normal cloud storage and Instagram turns everything into a square.
Like for example in the last 2 years I don't think I have been to a single wedding that DIDN'T have a instagram hashtag associated with it for people to use to upload their photos.
Like for example in the last 2 years I don't think I have been to a single wedding that DIDN'T have a instagram hashtag associated with it for people to use to upload their photos.
terrisus
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kame-sennin
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This isn't the fault of camera users. The phones are designed to be held and operated vertically with one hand. Holding them horizontally requires two hands and does not allow a secure grip (on what may be a very expensive piece of electronics). If something important and unexpected happens, a person can either shoot it vertically or miss the first few, possibly crucial, moments trying to operate their phone vertically.
The fault here lies with the electronics companies who haven't bothered to lock their cameras in the horizontal orientation, make their phones horizontally ergonomic, or design a lens that maintains horizontal orientation regardless of the phone's position. The design is incompetent, there's really no point criticizing users for this.
The fault here lies with the electronics companies who haven't bothered to lock their cameras in the horizontal orientation, make their phones horizontally ergonomic, or design a lens that maintains horizontal orientation regardless of the phone's position. The design is incompetent, there's really no point criticizing users for this.
Ingueferroque
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Wait, are some of you arguing against portrait photography?
CarpeDeezNutz
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This is the total opposite of me. My phone is 99% of the time in horizontal mode and when in its in vertical mode it's cos I am forced to. I go naked with my phone and have a strong grip on it cos like you say, expensive electronic haha.
But yeah, I see people text/browse vertically most of the time so that's probably why they take video/pics in portrait mode, shits natural to them.
GameGuru59
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This is why I said yeas ago that they should simply make the shutter either a box (like old Polaroid/Kodak cameras) or allow the shutter to rotate when in video mode. This is a pretty simple problem, phone manufactures are just too lazy to solve it. Save us, Project Ara!
The Real Abed
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The worst part is that YouTube's official mobile app (At least on iOS) will force you to rotate the phone into landscape if you put a video in fullscreen, so if someone posts a vertical video and you want to watch it on your phone, no matter what, you have to watch it in a tiny little box because fuck you YouTube developers. You can't watch fullscreen video in vertical mode at all. If you turn the phone back vertical it exits out of fullscreen. You. Incompetent. Morons.
My post was more explaining why portrait is better for some people's workflows - if you are a terminal user especially, landscape doesn't make as much sense
The Real Abed
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I keep hoping Apple will see the problem and be the ones to start the movement towards using square camera sensors that simply smartly crop out the top and bottom no matter what the orientation so the problem can completely disappear without users having to think about it. Once they do it, other companies would follow. It's a simple solution, just not one device makers have bothered to solve yet.
Weddings!? Why not just create an email address and have people email photos to it rather than have them butchered? Eurgh.
I am surprised it took 27 posts !
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davepoobond
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Rotating camera lenses
Or go back to academy aspect ratio
Or go back to academy aspect ratio
Bobby Roberts
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I wonder what the overlap between people who shoot things in portrait mode and don't give a shit is, and people who can't stand black bars on their movies/games.
Because I bet it's pretty high.
Because I bet it's pretty high.
kame-sennin
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Crude, but effective. Like I said, it's on the device makers.
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