Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.

Grasshopper Manufacturer are not good game developers at all. They're the epitome of "all flash, no substance" kind of games. They only go crazy with their characters because their games are very lacking in terms and depth and functionality (serious, those mini-games in Lollipop Chainsaw and No More Heroes were dreadful!).

I'd rather watch a let;s play of killer 7 than play it myself, that's how bad their games are !

Thats not controversial either, thats the truth.
 
Any games like Pokemon, Dragon Ball Z, Persona, Pheonix Wright, etc are stupid, don't know how the hell anybody gets excited about stupid looking crap like that.

Any game that's cell shaded/cartoony looking I probably won't play it because it looks stupid.
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Dearie me. Go sit in the corner and think about your life.
 
I don't understand how people can invest so much time into online games where you are doing the same things over and over again. Fun for a few minutes, but when people have hours and hours in Call of Duty? I don't see how.
 
Not only is it controversial, I actually believe it.

Then again, this hasn't been a particularly great generation yet, so maybe this isn't that controversial. I'm hopeful that Bloodborne will change my mind, and I haven't played Bayonetta 2 yet also.

I can kinda see where you're coming from if we're only talking PS4/XB1, but if you're adding in portables, Wii U and PC then it becomes wildly controversial.
 
Nintendo controllers are shit. The only good ones were the S/NES ones because they influenced good designs. The GC controller is praised for being 'perfect' constantly but it's just a horrible ergonomic mess.
 
Persona 4 is nowhere close to being one of the best RPGs, like some people claim. While the characters (other than Yosuke) are decent and the soundtrack is amazing, the plot and dungeons are awful. Not to mention the Social Link feature is really really lame (hopefully it is not back in Persona 5, but we all know it is, because yay pandering). Point is, the game have far too many flaws to be considered one of the GOATs of the RPG genre.
5th gen Pokemon are the best designed in the series.
Agreed. 5th gen IS the best generation in the Pokémon series. 5th > 4th > 1st > Others.
I love this thread.
Me too.
 
Persona 4 is nowhere close to being one of the best RPGs, like some people claim. While the characters (other than Yosuke) are decent and the soundtrack is amazing, the plot and dungeons are awful. Not to mention the Social Link feature is really really lame (hopefully it is not back in Persona 5, but we all know it is, because yay pandering). Point is, the game have far too many flaws to be considered one of the GOATs of the RPG genre.

While I love Persona 4, I can agree that the love it gets feels disproportionate. I think it's because it's a lot of people's first JRPG that doesn't drive them away, backed by it being actually good, leading to them shouting from the rooftops "It's actually a really good game!".
 
The random, nonsensical solutions to many puzzles in Sierra / Lucasarts point-and-click games undermine them all. It does not take away from all that they do well (world-building, writing, art direction...etc), but it does make them worse games in my eyes.
 
Any games like Pokemon, Dragon Ball Z, Persona, Pheonix Wright, etc are stupid, don't know how the hell anybody gets excited about stupid looking crap like that.

Call of Duty games are amongst the best games ever made, the later ones MW3 and beyond, reason being they are fun all year long to pick up and play multiplayer.

Dark/Demon Souls games are too ridiculously hard to be considered even good games. I don't mind a challenge but the crap they do in these games like set you like 15 min back from where you died, or give you less health, etc is beyond frustrating.

Ninja Gaiden games are horrible, like the Dark/Demon Souls games they are too frustrating to be any fun minus the old arcade game from the 90's.

Any game that's cell shaded/cartoony looking I probably won't play it because it looks stupid. Only exception I can think of would be Borderlands, I had some good fun with that but it wasn't as stupid looking as say Wind Waker or Jet Set Radio.

kids these days, when i was 13 i didn't even know what the internet was
 
BioShock 1 is a terrible game. The story and setting is the only good thing about it. De shooting and plasmids all fucking suck and you're constantly getting al these blurry, foggy effects in your face that it's hard to aim and shoot.

BioShock Infinite is a way better game.
 
The WiiU has a better library than PS4 and XBone combined.

That's like saying X person is better than a cripple at this point. Not really a reflection of how good things are on Wii U but more commentary on how broken everything is on PS4 and XB1.

Skyrim is a shallow game with terrible mechanics and soulless quests/story/scenario. It's like the dollar menu of rpgs - cheap, unimaginative, plain and yet people buy it .


Not even a little controversial. C'mon there's only one real controversial opinion on this page.
 
Skyrim is a shallow game with terrible mechanics and soulless quests/story/scenario. It's like the dollar menu of rpgs - cheap, unimaginative, plain and yet people buy it .
 
Not even a little controversial. C'mon there's only one real controversial opinion on this page.

Millions of bought copies and a metric fuckton of concurrent players on steam tell another story. While it probably isn't that much of a controversial opinion on gaf, it sure is in the grand scheme of things.
 
Millions of bought copies and a metric fuckton of concurrent players on steam tell another story. While it probably isn't that much of a controversial opinion on gaf, it sure is in the grand scheme of things.

People play on steam for the mods, not the base game. But I get what you're saying.
 
Ah no, there's tons of stuff I play and enjoy, CoD games are just one of many. Games I've played the crap out of, most of them beat and even 100%'d, and absolutely loved recently include Drive Club, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, GTA5, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Far Cry 4, and Dying Light.

Forgot to add Mario Kart and Smash Bros on Wii U

Nope, 36, started gaming on the Atari 2600 and will be a gamer for life. I'm a bit confused at the outlash, I read through the first 20 pages and the stuff I posted is no different than what others posted without backlash.

The backlash(or rather the presumed backlash) has to do with a 36 year old gamer lauding current gen AAA titles as if they're the best thing since sliced bread. The bolded also reads like a hard Microsoft shill, but I could be mistaken.

There's nothing controversial about saying you wouldn't play games with a certain art direction either.

Skyrim is a shallow game with terrible mechanics and soulless quests/story/scenario. It's like the dollar menu of rpgs - cheap, unimaginative, plain and yet people buy it .

Very true, but it curbs my feelings of wanderlust that overcome me from time to time. That would be the only reason I go back.

Random shit happening as you explore the wilderness is the best appeal I find for the game.
 
Really? This forum seems as pro Sony as it gets. Every Sony exclusive descended from heaven!
Ok now stop it. I'm pro Sony, if it's the right term, but I can think with my mind. You can like and dislike things, but try to have more respect to the other opinion. ND success or any other Sony exclusive success not depend surely because neogaf we are all Sony fans. It's crazy just think it.
 
Games that funnel the player from one cutscene to another are terrible. If a game gives the same experience to every player, it is automatically bad and a waste of time and money. Game designers who want to tell stories are bad at their job and chose the wrong profession. Game designers who only make games about killing are mostly unimaginative tools.
 
Battlefield in its modern form only caters to those console players who think they're too good for Call of Duty, and the PC players who can't play anything more challenging & engaging. It's just a shit feeling casual shooter which hasn't been worth playing since BC2. Levelution was a joke.
 
Every MMO I've ever played, is almost exactly the same.

The structure is so unchanged that games like FF14 and GW2 feel like reskins of each other, with mildly altering and unique mechanics, that are almost always only useable or of import at all towards the end of games that are designed to be incredibly lengthy, meaning every time you start a new game, it feels like playing the old game for 50 hours. I appreciate that there are many I have never played at all, and that those I have stick to the realms of fantasy rather than scifi, but the lack of diversity strikes me as worse than any other genre, because the content is so much greater, as is the cost to the player, yet the potential is utterly wasted. The fear of a lack of subscribers bounds each game to not try new things, and that damages the entire genre.

Battlefield in its modern form only caters to those console players who think they're too good for Call of Duty, and the PC players who can't play anything more challenging & engaging. It's just a shit feeling casual shooter which hasn't been worth playing since BC2. Levelution was a joke.

I think it caters more to people, like myself, that like more options in a games playstyle. If I could just jump out of a plane and find a tank to go knock down some building full of snipers in COD, I would. But I can't.
 
I have no idea why Dragon Age Inquisition is getting so many awards.

It is one of the worst RPGs I have ever played, hands down, bar-none.

It sickens me that this game is generally accepted as being a good game by the majority of those who've tried it.
 
I fully agree with the first part. Fuck chopper gunner tho

It was made worse because few people carried Stinger launcher. Which is understandable, as it took up a whole secondary slot, but the game gives you 5 classes you can switch to between spawns. At least one should have had stinger. So you often get into situation where chopper gunner is mowing down your whole team easily and only one person is bothering to shoot back at them.

They really pulled back on the killstreaks in MW3 (although one of the support streaks was a stealth bomber and you could get that even after dying). Blops 2 had some powerful fun ones, like Warthog.
 
Most of the games that have come out this gen have been shit.

Awful ports and unfinished games with terrible performance.

F2P games are still shit. Not a single good one. Even TF2 and Dota2 are becoming too much. Way too much free garbage. At least Dota is still somewhat tolerable.

Oh and Early Access is going to ruin a large number of games. It'll promote lazy development and there have already been plenty of examples.
 
Ok now stop it. I'm pro Sony, if it's the right term, but I can think with my mind. You can like and dislike things, but try to have more respect to the other opinion. ND success or any other Sony exclusive success not depend surely because neogaf we are all Sony fans. It's crazy just think it.

I'm not saying everyone. But it's rather clear that if one console maker mistakes a mistake, it's all pitch forks, then if it's the other it's kind of brushed off as not a big deal.
 
Battlefield in its modern form only caters to those console players who think they're too good for Call of Duty, and the PC players who can't play anything more challenging & engaging. It's just a shit feeling casual shooter which hasn't been worth playing since BC2. Levelution was a joke.

I feel like BF4 went after the CoD crowd, and perhaps more with Hardline.

BF3, at no point, felt like it was trying to pull in Call of Duty players however.
 
Gaf's darling, Platinum Games is severely overrated -

Bayonetta was a cringeworthy game and I didnt enjoy it one bit.

Vanquish was sorta cool, but it was only fun for the first 10 minutes, otherwise it had a horrible story and did absolutely nothing to keep me interested.





I hate the fact that multiplayer games are ruining single player experiences. GTA V was all the more weaker because they tacked on multiplayer for it.
 
I hate the fact that multiplayer games are ruining single player experiences. GTA V was all the more weaker because they tacked on multiplayer for it.

In line with this thought, I wish Naughty Dog wasn't wasting resources on Uncharted 4 multi. Just give me a good campaign.
 
Dark souls II is the best in the series so far. I actually pay attention to the lore and story cause it isn't completely boring. After the interface and control improvments I can't even go back to the other games. The world design is amazing and has lots of interconnected areas with neat shortcuts. The pvp is far and away superior to the other games. the boss fights are epic, better than anything in dark souls 1. The DLC is just stupidly good. I really dont think it has any flaws or anything that makes it remotely inferior like people claim.
 
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Socom 1 and 2 were the leader in multiplayer on consoles, and no shooter to this day has topped it.

Socom: Confrontation was a good game that didn't deserve the hate it got from fans.

Socom 4 was fun but not a good Socom game.

Rainbow Six: Siege will be the best tactical team based shooter since Socom.

God of War 3 is better than any of the other GOW games, and the best game on PS3

30FPS locked is better than 60fps with dips.

Games with bad taste should be given room to breathe. No game should be banned. This is coming from someone who loves the very worst horror films (Human Centipede 2/Cannibal Holocaust), and also cheesy schlock fests (Troma). Playing or watching such things should not reflect negatively on someones personality.

Assassins Creed has always been garbage.

If you told me Nintendo was releasing a new console for $300, and in the first year they would have a new Star Fox, Metroid, 2d and 3d Mario, Mario Kart, Zelda, Donky Kong, and Pokemon, I still would not want it. Maybe with Xenoblade though :p

Funny enough, I'd much rather play retro inspired indie games then the franchises above.

Indie/Retro games today are more addicting, and fun than AAA games.

I'd trade in almost all of EA games in recent years for a new Road Rash.

Mod Nation Racers is the best kart racer ever.

Max Payne 3 was better than 1 and 2, and the writing was fine.

Uncharted 3 had a much better story than 2.

Most open world games are too boring to finish.

Games that require me to discover a chunk of it's lore by reading are a no go for me. That's most fantasy games. I don't like reading journal entries in games. Lot's of devs should take que from Rockstar on this. GTA V in particular has excellent mission design, and instead of opening some text book to read about the city, or characters, it directly puts you on missions to interact with different npc's by doing various different tasks designed specifically for that npc. It lets you discover the lore by driving around the city and interacting with npcs and the environment to make the city feel alive. None of it is boring, repetitive, or required to progress, and that's the best part. Basically instead of giving me a book to read about the old dragon king, just make an npc that tells the story in a dramatic way while you are riding on horseback around the beautiful landscapes.

GTA V has one good character, one alright one, and one is just bad. Franklin. he's just a stereotypical black dude, and as a black man, it was pretty lame to see him eventually just become a third wheel for Trevor and Michael's story. I mean he's just a gang banger, and every time something happens, he's just automatically down, because he's a ryder n needs to get that paper? Trevor and Michael are given all this conflict and personality, and reasoning (them being former bank robbers) and Franklin is just there to be a gangster, because he's from the hood, and because San Andreas right!? At least Lamar was fuckin' hilarious.

Vanilla World of Warcraft - Wrath of the Lich King is probably the best game ever.

Despite being against an all digital future, 2/3rds of the games on my new console are digital, and that includes GTAV, Destiny, and Diablo III. So I'm probably sending the wrong message.

Console gamers weren't ready for Destiny and it's MMO style. Evidence by lots and lots of whining and jealousy after release about loot distribution, causing the game to become less WoW, and more Diablo which I don't think they were aiming for. Where bungie messed up, is not having the social features there. The Tower needs a chat hub, and more people allowed in it, and a "looking for raid" feature. The matchmaking was fucked.

2015 will be the best ever year for gaming in my lifetime. The indie and AAA lineup is looking amazing. I was too young to appreciate other years that might fall into this category. I plan to soak it up.
 
I have no idea why Dragon Age Inquisition is getting so many awards.

It is one of the worst RPGs I have ever played, hands down, bar-none.

It sickens me that this game is generally accepted as being a good game by the majority of those who've tried it.

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I was having fun with it until it became the same thing over and over and over. And yes, I left the Hinterlands!
 
Assassin's Creed IV is extremely underwhelming to anyone that's played Sunset Overdrive / Titanfall. Traversal is extremely limited and janky, combat flatout sucks, the 'stealth mechanics' are laughable, the modern part of the storyline just serves to break immersion, and on Xbox One it's not even that pretty (which always used to be a boast of Assassin's Creed).

Yet, it's almost universally revered. I paid £3 for it and it wasn't even worth that.
 
Nintendo has a huge double standard on things they do. Like this YouTube creator thing lately. If Sony, EA, etc did that gamers would be burning torches.

I'm also not a fan of platinum at all and think they are a garbage dev.

I'm not a big fan since Square and Enix combined.
 
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