Kazuma Kiryu
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Face-Off: Evolve - PC/PS4/X1
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I beg to differ. $50 a year (though a lot lower if you buy on sale) doesn't mean a lot when graphics cards alone cost hundreds of dollars. That's years worth of paying for Xbox Live or PSN to come out even. Even then, you also aren't considering the fact that you can't rent or sell games on PC, which helps the bottom line for consoles even more.
The Shogun
Banned
I get a flawless 1080p 60fps on max settings with my PC. I'm really happy with my performance and besides some early connection issues sometimes, it runs fantastic for me.
Played the Xbone version and it holds up pretty well, but the 60fps on this fast paced game makes a huge difference
Played the Xbone version and it holds up pretty well, but the 60fps on this fast paced game makes a huge difference
No it doesn't, at all.
You can get Evolve for $45 right now and it was even cheaper prerelease, and you don't have to pay to play online for it, or any other game. Thus, regardless of how you distribute the costs, you're still going to end up paying more for the right to play on that PS4 over time as you would a PC if you buy more than 3/4 games a year.
PS4 + 5 years of plus = 750$
added 15$ upcharge of a $60 release for 4 games a year (60$ savings per yr), multiplied by 5 years = $300
That's a total of 1050$. So yeah, you can easily build a PC that can outperfom consoles on that margin and save money, easily.
That's great for you. You're just missing the fact that a $240 280x with an 4 year old 2500k can run this game on very high/1080p60fps.
edit:typo
Dictator93
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I'm not really seeing "a close match for high settings" here:
Yeah... looks a lot more like medium to me. Not high.
You can "beg" all you want, that doesn't change the fact that we have >150 usd GPUs outperforming the PS4 already, and that disparity is only going to get greater with time, not worse.
Duxxy3
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For me the biggest issue with a gaming PC was that I can't use it for anything else while gaming. Normally I have Netflix, browsers, encoders, documents and other programs open when I'm also on my console. If I game on my PC, none of that (outside of Netflix) is available.
All these screenshots posted in the thread
and the captures and screenshots in the article really dont do this game many favors. It looks absolutely FUGLY to me no matter what platform its on. There is always some incredibly low quality asset on screen that sticks out like a sore thumb. It doesnt help that the art direction in the game is as run of the mill as you can get outside of the monster designs.
Why are people arguing over performance levels and graphics on consoles vs pc when the game looks this shit to begin with? Having a smoother shadowed turd doesnt make it less of a turd.
Then again maybe its just the screencaps and video they took. All I can say is that nothing I"ve seen here or in the article impresses in the slightest bit whatsoever.
I'm not really seeing "a close match for high settings" here:
I want a clear winner on consoles when I want to buy the best looking version. Maybe others feel different about it but I hate the muddy textures in the distance. It's always in the center of the screen.
Where are my shadows Sony ?
and the captures and screenshots in the article really dont do this game many favors. It looks absolutely FUGLY to me no matter what platform its on. There is always some incredibly low quality asset on screen that sticks out like a sore thumb. It doesnt help that the art direction in the game is as run of the mill as you can get outside of the monster designs.
Why are people arguing over performance levels and graphics on consoles vs pc when the game looks this shit to begin with? Having a smoother shadowed turd doesnt make it less of a turd.
Then again maybe its just the screencaps and video they took. All I can say is that nothing I"ve seen here or in the article impresses in the slightest bit whatsoever.
Brad Grenz
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Well, five years of PS Plus also includes 360 games to play. At least 120 of those will be for PS4.
If PC had the exclusives that I like I would buy one in a second. It doesn't so it makes owning a PC pointless for me.
And that's relevant to what I just said because ... ?
I'd rather keep the $50 and spend that on games I want to play (or anything else!) rather than having it stowed away from me and preallocated towards games I don't even like just for the right to be able to play games I already purchased to their maximum capacity.
Like, I'd much rather take that same 300$ for 5 years of plus and use it to pay for 5 years of steam winter sales to buy games I personally picked out to play. I guarantee I'd get more personal enjoyment per dollar spent than with PS+
drotahorror
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Those pauses every few seconds are brutal in those ps4/xb1 faceoff videos.
Other than that (and that's pretty big) looks like the fare pretty well. But those freezes are uncalled for. That should be patched.
You don't need plus for games you already purchased. I'd say a good portion of people have Plus for online play. The free games are an added bonus. No, I don't think it should cost money to play online, but it does. Been gaming on PC's almost all my life but I can deal with $50 to play with some of my friends.
Other than that (and that's pretty big) looks like the fare pretty well. But those freezes are uncalled for. That should be patched.
You don't need plus for games you already purchased. I'd say a good portion of people have Plus for online play. The free games are an added bonus. No, I don't think it should cost money to play online, but it does. Been gaming on PC's almost all my life but I can deal with $50 to play with some of my friends.
It's relevant Because for most performance of Multiplats means nothing, if it doesn't have the core games you like to play.
we'll buy a console and use the money saved on trading in to buy games you want
I have no idea why you are quoting me. I was replying to another person talking about performance and his card costing more than both consoles combined.
Zombie James
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Wait, I thought these face-offs were strictly for visual and performance comparisons? If there's a difference in online functionality that should go in the review, not here. What's next, "...but rumble triggers really make the shooting more visceral making this a tough choice"?
Dictator93
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Not having a browser, documents, or other programs being open and available on PC? You are either going to have to explain that comment... or... describe what you are smoking and what its street value is.
we'll buy a console and use the money saved on trading in to buy games you want
Trading in games is about the dumbest thing in the world, dude. GS rips you so hard on unit profit margins to the point that there's really no scenario where you make out well on the matter.
Like great I can trade in this game I just paid $68 for so I can get like 15$ store credit at GS.
I make out much better by saving more per game bought on PC and occasionally dealing with a dud in my library that I hated and can't get rid of than dealing with the underhanded BS of GS.
He might be using steam in big picture mode.
You said that older cards outperform Both consoles. I only said if PC had the exclusives I like it would be a easy choice for me.
Triggerhappytel
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Well, they need something to cling on to so it makes it seem that the Xbone might be a good console alternative. That's what it's going to be this gen - PSN lacking behind XBL, or some other highly subjective aspect. I remember in the Infamous Second Son analysis they rightly so had to praise its technical achievement, so spent some time saying how the gameplay was more of the same and not very exciting.
Steam BP still has browser support, though.
family_guy
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Um..alt + tab? That stuff runs in the background.
I surrender. Yes I was talking about the performance of Evolve in a thread called "Face-Off: Evolve - PC/PS4/X1 Reply to Thread" and you threw a random comment at me.
That's one way of putting it. It is a pretty stupid way of putting it, but go ahead.
Sure but there's no evidence from article they ran exhaustive tests on netcode.
The issue isn't reporting it if it's true, it's dropping what feels like a fairly weakly observed "maybe" into an otherwise objective analysis and then including it into core conclusions.
It's shoddy work basically. They should either mention it off the cuff but note they haven't properly tested netcode extensively and with different machines/locations, don't mention it at all or put in the spade work to prove it and include it.
Yes trading in games rips you off and ps plus free games you don't like either yet saving 50 dollars a year on ps plus suits you, we understand
Primethius
Banned
Pretty much. Without any testing or extensive reporting to back it up, DF could drop it in any article and everyone would be left debating "ifs."
Duxxy3
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Because not all games react too well to being interrupted. Some crash, some have to be restarted after alt tabbing, some don't allow for any alt tabbing. Its a mess that is fixed with a console next to the PC.
Having both let's me do my PC stuff on my PC and gaming stuff on console (except for Isaac rebirth (fuck ms and their parity)). I can live with the graphical difference, but I couldn't live with the dramatic difference in functionality of a PC only set up.
Edit: my apologies for being off topic
drotahorror
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Or you could ebay the game once you're done with it. If you beat it within 2 weeks or so you'll get around 70-80% of your money back, maybe more.
family_guy
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Look into Borderless Gaming.
Duxxy3
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The chance for charge backs or other scams is not worth it for some people. Gamestop is guaranteed money/credit.
Dictator93
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This is the first time I have ever heard anyone trying to argue a console is more functional or more multi-functional / capable at multi-tasking than a PC.
1. Borderless windowed gaming
2. Multi-screen gaming
3. In game bowser support though steam (launch games through steam).
4. Alt-tab actually works in most modern PC releases
MikeE21286
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"More robust infrastructure" needs clarifying.
I understand that became a lazy statement last gen (but it was true). It's nonsense nowadays
I understand that became a lazy statement last gen (but it was true). It's nonsense nowadays
Duxxy3
Member
My argument is that a PC plus a console is more functional than just a PC.
Andrew Ryan
Banned
This nails it on the head, they need to keep creating controversy, something that is basically over this gen but last gen was with every game release
Well, you can fix it too with two monitors.
No offense, but saying that alt tabbing doesn't work in 2015 is quite ... bad, really. It sounds more like your OS is slowed down by malware or other stuff. Try to get a buddy have a look at your PC and explain some things.
Duxxy3
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Tried. Still less functional (though I'll admit I didn't try it in borderless).
Duxxy3
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Uh huh...
drotahorror
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While it doesn't always work, there's settings like not letting people with 0 feedback bid, not letting people without paypal bid etc. I'd say my uncle has a very high success rate of his auctions being legit.
No offense, but unless you've played every game ever made on PC you wouldn't know if there's games that you can't alt tab in unless you've encountered them yourself.
This is gettin off topic though, my fault.
When PC is part of the equation it never does lol.
Considering I've never seen online infrastructure Mentioned in a DF article. I think that kinda Threw everyone off.