"Every game ever made". Did you somehow miss the "in 2015"? Please, go ahead and list me some recently released games that don't allow you to alt tab or force you to restart the game.
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Face-Off: Evolve - PC/PS4/X1
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In that scene at least, medium is a 1:1 match.I'm not really seeing "a close match for high settings" here:
Dictator93
Member
The medium preset on PC turns off fog shadows, which the consoles also seem to be lacking.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
1 step forward and 3 steps back, cant say im impressed about DF anymore tbh
OT: the game actually looks good and almost the same on the consoles (going off the YT comparison video), but that is one annoying stutter they showed on the PS4 and didnt on the Xbox One while in the article they say the PS4 performs better. im confused
OT: the game actually looks good and almost the same on the consoles (going off the YT comparison video), but that is one annoying stutter they showed on the PS4 and didnt on the Xbox One while in the article they say the PS4 performs better. im confused
Lockjaw333
Member
Yeah I'm seeing a closer match with PC medium as well. Looks like Medium and most likely higher texture setting.
TrojanBlade
Member
And people thought there is no bias in the media against one console? I am not even sure why they do this? I mean is it money hats? Or are they fanboys of one console? What else would be the rationale behind such blatant bias. Last gen when multi plat games were better on 360, there used to be no IFs or BUTs but now every positive is insignificant followed by some irrelevant shit as an issue for PS4. I don't get it.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I'm sure you know GameStop doesn't give so little for recent releases? Neither does Best Buy. Or eBay. Or Craigslist. Or simply trading with someone for another game.
Just like you assume every PC user knows what oddball site or region they need to visit to buy the game, a console player who knows what they're doing can also trade a game they're no longer interested in for a brand new game for little (or nothing) out of pocket.
Even if you managed to save $5-$10 at launch you're also stuck with it. So if this is another Titanfall situation on PC, you've pretty much got a digital coaster. And with Evole, I'm not seeing staying power.
geordiemp
Member
Most reviewers are people and have strong biases whether towards MS, Sony or Nintendo. It often comes across in the words of a review which are subjective opinions.
Driveclub is my favourite example of this.
drotahorror
Member
Duxxy was not talking about games in 2015 afaik, and they're the person you quoted. And you didn't specifically say 'games in 2015'. You just said 'in 2015'. To me that meant, "It's 2015 all games can be alt tabbed in". Anyways, we're way off topic. You can say something again but I'm done with the convo.
I'm not really seeing "a close match for high settings" here:
Looks like medium to me, why did they talk about high settings ? I'm dizzy.
Wow, really adult! Let me say something and end it with that line. I'm waiting for recent games by the way.
GeordieMark
Member
No, most rational, level-headed people don't have a strong bias about consoles at all. Idiots and kids do though.
DannyDanger
Member
A guy in the DF comments section literally just called us neogaf monkeys
Ppl act like gaming communities are rival gangs lol
Ppl act like gaming communities are rival gangs lol
GeordieMark
Member
Hugh Swank
Member
People are saying that the PS4 got a raw deal in the article, yet after saying this...
"The level of anisotropic filtering remains noticeably lower on the PS4, blurring texture details on the ground as a result."
this...
"While we see the same highly detailed artwork and shader effects bestowed across the lush landscapes and characters, lower quality LOD (level of detail) models are sometimes displayed for longer on PS4 compared to the other versions"
and this...
"However, the poorer quality filtering and slightly slower streaming doesn't always show the PS4 version of Evolve in the best light - but thankfully, in the darker environments these issues don't distract from the quality of the gameplay on offer."
the author concludes...
"the PS4's 1080p resolution gives it a slightly more refined experience"
"The level of anisotropic filtering remains noticeably lower on the PS4, blurring texture details on the ground as a result."
this...
"While we see the same highly detailed artwork and shader effects bestowed across the lush landscapes and characters, lower quality LOD (level of detail) models are sometimes displayed for longer on PS4 compared to the other versions"
and this...
"However, the poorer quality filtering and slightly slower streaming doesn't always show the PS4 version of Evolve in the best light - but thankfully, in the darker environments these issues don't distract from the quality of the gameplay on offer."
the author concludes...
"the PS4's 1080p resolution gives it a slightly more refined experience"
Some posts here are so stupid, useless and "so-14yo" that we have a lot of fun in our office. Thanks for that guys!
On topic :
DF is a pretty strange "thing" to be honest, I mean, some articles looks pretty nice and others looks pretty "strange".
Well, that is not a real issue because any person with some brain can easily filter some stupid statements and just take the good that is in the article.
On topic :
DF is a pretty strange "thing" to be honest, I mean, some articles looks pretty nice and others looks pretty "strange".
Well, that is not a real issue because any person with some brain can easily filter some stupid statements and just take the good that is in the article.
drotahorror
Member
Fine, continue it and lets get banned for off topic posting. This thread isn't about alt tabbing in 2015 (er, 2015 games you say), it's about Evolve. It's easy to get banned on Neogaf and I don't want to let it happen over some stupid quarrel over alt tabbing in 2015 (games (sic)).
-out. PM me if you want to let off some steam. If I just misunderstood your post, then my bad, I apologize and didn't understand the context or fill in the missing words.
geordiemp
Member
Nah, everybody has biases normally on games, not necessarily consoles I agree.
For example, 2D platformers for me is what I expect free with PSN (only one I bought was Ps4 Rayman gong back 5 or more years) I don't play JRPG only big western ones, love shooters and only pay fighting games if they play like Gaiden or DMC.
Anyway, if your friends play on PSN or live, and you like that environment, even as a reviewer it will bias your outlook.
You're behaving like a child at this point. No, I never said that anything about "2015 games" only. I asked for recently released games that behave oddly when it comes to alt tabbing. And all you are doing is avoiding the question because you are scared of getting banned or whatever the excuse is. That's going off topic.
I have yet to have any PSN problems in any games across PS3 and PS4. Don't see how XBL is better. Depends more on your side i would think. It's sad they would add that as benefit in a graphics comparison.
PS4 looks close to medium settings than high. Unless DF is seeing something in person we are not and the pics are not showing it.
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Ok i did the usual and looked at them on my TV. The PS4 does actually look like the high PC setting minus a few missing trees.
PS4 looks close to medium settings than high. Unless DF is seeing something in person we are not and the pics are not showing it.
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Ok i did the usual and looked at them on my TV. The PS4 does actually look like the high PC setting minus a few missing trees.
GeordieMark
Member
You are wrong. This has nothing to do with preference for certain genres.
The people who write these articles most likely own, or have owned, consoles from various manufacturers over the years. There is a good chance they own more than one now. I do, and I know a lot of other posters here do too.
Anyone with half a brain can see the PS4 is more powerful. Most people would also agree that Xbox Live offers the better online service. And in terms of first party games, it's hard to argue against Nintendo. They all have strengths and weaknesses.
These threads always bring out the worst in GAF. Every fanboy clown is drawn to them like moths to a flame.
Obviously the general resolution improvement still trumps these drawbacks in their opinion. You can disagree, of course, but it seems fair to me.
I Can't see on a site as big as Gaf, if Evolve took 20 minutes to find a game on ps4. That a Tread are even post who mention it wouldn't happen.
drotahorror
Member
I'm not avoiding the question. There aren't any games afaik in 2015 that don't allow alt tabbing. There are games that mess up or can't alt tabbed in before 2015 though. You win okay friend? I don't give a fuck about some dumb arguement.
Sources? Let me guess, you don't have any. You can't put together a PC for $400 that renders games as well as current-gen consoles. I think you really need to do more research because you're fanboy is showing.
Stop acting like a toddler. Outside of your math being off, regardless of what you think about getting "ripped off" you can easily found various outlets to sell games (retail, online, etc.) and you don't have the option with PC that offsets costs of console games by a good amount. Also, you get a shit ton of free games with PSN+ and why are you pretending that PC games don't also cost $60? I could be just as intellectually dishonest as you and say PC games cost so and so because WoW is $15 a month...but I won't.
I like this explanation. There are fanboys over 18 but I doubt a site made to make money would choose a system to back over potential revenue.
Congrats. That's one poorly optimized game. What about the dozens of other multiplatform games? One game doesn't prove anything lol.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/can-we-build-a-gaming-pc-on-a-console-budget/1100-6418829/
You're welcome.
Wow. You asked for a source and I gave you one. Of course it isn't worth anything now. There are countless games that run on console level with a 750 ti.
I edited my post. Also, I refuted the fact that a $400 PC can match console peformance. Not can a low budget PC match performance of one multiplatform game.
Great for you!
Hey look, you edited this post as well ... No. You asked for a $150 card out performing consoles. That's what you did before editing your post 5 minutes later. And you got a source for exactly that.
Revolutionary
Member
Party matchmaking is wonky on all platforms as far as I can tell (been watching streams when I'm not playing).
Solo works fine on PC, and takes MAYBE a minute longer on PS4 on average. But 20 minutes?? Dude should have backed out and tried again after the first two minutes.
Solo works fine on PC, and takes MAYBE a minute longer on PS4 on average. But 20 minutes?? Dude should have backed out and tried again after the first two minutes.
Funny DF is praising the X1's online infrastructure, maniacsquirrel(a TRS dev) was talking on Twitch how the X1 has a bug that resets rank.
Edit: Here's one topic about it on the forums: https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/has-anyone-had-there-progress-reset-on-xbox-1/35768
Edit: Here's one topic about it on the forums: https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/has-anyone-had-there-progress-reset-on-xbox-1/35768
UnrealEck
Member
They did go into more detail. They didn't just say PC ran it best.
And no, PS4 doesn't 'win' again. PC does.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
If DF doesn't want to come across as subjective and biased, why don't they simply sample the matchmaking time? Join 50 games over the course of multiple days and show us the numbers.
They way it looks, Leadbetter is up to his old games, stretching for something where the XB1 wins. Now he is hand waving and using words like "seems". More console war BS.
They way it looks, Leadbetter is up to his old games, stretching for something where the XB1 wins. Now he is hand waving and using words like "seems". More console war BS.
Dictator93
Member
A 750ti with i3 combo actually bests the PS4 in multiple games, BF4, dying light, thief, , PVZ, etc...
Also, you ended up claiming this whole $400 stuff as a deflection to the aforementioned fact that ultra cheap (outdated) PC compenents are more capable.
No one should ever recommend 400 dollar PCs to play games, when a 600 dollar one does it so much better than PS4.
What the heck please? That's not even the post I replied to. I replied to your simple one liner of "Sources? Let me guess, you don't have any.".
Leadbetter did not write this article. Your point stands nonetheless.
Of course there are a few games that can. However, I had issue with someone shitting on consoles because a $400 PC is better than a PS4. Obviously that's not true across the board. In the future as PC parts lower in value, probably in about a year or so, it'll be a much obvious thing than it is now.
You butted into a conversation that had already started and you want to tell me what I was referring to...unless you think a $150 card is all you need to run games. It's pretty clear that communication is an issue with you, so good day sir!
You are the only one here talking about a $400 PC here.
Dick Justice
Banned
Lol what a load of bullshit. I'm primarily a PC gamer, and there's a number of games with alt tabbing issues. Portal 2 and Left 4 Dead 2 tend to crash when tabbing back in, for instance. Max Payne 3 might cause your GPU driver to crash when alt tabbed. Borderless helps, but it also causes microstuttering in some games.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
I know, but it is his web site and he has the ultimate editorial say any anything getting published.
That's pretty funny coming from someone who posts one liners, edits them into full posts and acts like people should have replied to that post in the first place.
It would help if you could read.
Guy makes exaggerated claim, I say it's wrong. People shit on me. Are we in kindergarten?