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Blast Corps 2
Nuts & Bolts 2

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

New Viva Piñata
Battletoads. 3D Beat'em up (GOW style without backtracking)
Blast Corp (Remake)
Two Banjo-Insert games. One is a 2D platafrormer (like DKCR) and the second is an action/adveture + 3D plataformer
New Perfect Dark with external colaboration. Ein wichtiger Entwickler

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I'd love a sequel to Blast Corps that uses the destruction tech from Screamride.

 

[VinFTW]

I'd love a sequel to Blast Corps that uses the destruction tech from Screamride.

That's pretty much crackdown, no?

 

[Chris1]

Kampfheld said Banjo is coming at e3, so I'll say AAA retail Banjo and a downloadable Battletoads

They already have a base too, whatever blacktusk had done on shanghai heist.

Given that I haven't played PDZ, I don't think shangheist would be a good fit for Rare. If Black Tusk isn't going to work on it after gears, maybe let Remedy take over after QB?

Looked pretty interesting from the small clip that we saw of it, so I do hope that game isn't dead.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

That's pretty much crackdown, no?

CD is using some cloud powered destruction tech. Not sure why, after playing the demo, I feel the destruction tech in Screamride would be perfect.

I just know that will the tech will be good, it's going to be case of getting the game to work due to downtime or other issues that seem to be hitting XBL with an increasing regularity...

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

Battletoads and Banjo 3.

Bring it.

 

[EvB]

is rare big enough to be working on more than 1 game?

Rare has 2 studios

 

[rokkerkory]

Last chance for Rare let's go.

 

[Chris1]

CD is using some cloud powered destruction tech. Not sure why, after playing the demo, I feel the destruction tech in Screamride would be perfect.

I just know that will the tech will be good, it's going to be case of getting the game to work due to downtime or other issues that seem to be hitting XBL with an increasing regularity...

I think they are using the same tech but screamride is heavily toned down compared to what Crackdown will be like due to not being calculated in the cloud. Crackdowns apparently can't be done using just the hardware on your local machine according to kampfheld.

 

[Yoshi]

Micorosft seems to be teasing Conker quite a bit lately, even Seavor acknowledges and retweets some of those teases. Between that, being asked to voice the character and the whole Project Spark fiasco I want to assume a new one is being made. Banjo has been endlessly teased as well so I'm expecting one or both of these games.

Banjo and Conker would make the Xbox One one incredibly worthwhile purchase for me, even if nothing else ever came out for Xbox One afterwards. Though I doubt Seavor is in any way working on a new Conker game, because on Twitter he explicitly said he is done with swearing in games.

 

[Arooguy]

As long as a true Banjo-Kazooie 3 is one of those projects, all is good.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I think they are using the same tech but screamride is heavily toned down compared to what Crackdown will be like due to not being calculated in the cloud. Crackdowns apparently can't be done using just the hardware on your local machine according to kampfheld.

Didn't Kampf say their tech was completely different to that in SC? I know their reasons fo why their destruction tech is cloud powered, I'm just not sold on the idea as XBL isn't exactly bullet proof and I hate the idea of a CD being online only.

A much better move would have been to make a different game with their cloud powered tech and give us a traditional CD game that built on CD1 and CD2. I don't feel destruction is necessarily something CD needed.

 

[Majanew]

CD is using some cloud powered destruction tech. Not sure why, after playing the demo, I feel the destruction tech in Screamride would be perfect.

I just know that will the tech will be good, it's going to be case of getting the game to work due to downtime or other issues that seem to be hitting XBL with an increasing regularity...

If the Screamride demo's performance is the same as the retail build then... no. The frame-rate drops constantly and putting that in an open world with NPCs, vehicles, particles, day/night cycle, etc, the game's frame-rate would run in the single digits.

 

[Leflus]

Scratch Conker because that's just assets being used in another game.

Banjo and Battletoads are locks based on the t-shirt Spencer wore and a certain morse code message.

Spencer also tweeted that Rare wasn't working on a Perfect Dark. So my guess is that they would be doing an Xbox IP so another Kameo or Viva Piñata.

He didn'say "four games based on Rare IPs", he said "four Rare IPs". Conker is an IP that is currently being worked on.

Three new games (in addition to KI) based on Rare IP would be amazing, but I'm just trying to be realistic.

 

[Gambit 1138]

kind of sucks if there making Banjo Kazooie 3 when half the team that made the original two great is off at some other company making a similar game.

 

[Leyasu]

Didn't Kampf say their tech was completely different to that in SC? I know their reasons fo why their destruction tech is cloud powered, I'm just not sold on the idea as XBL isn't exactly bullet proof and I hate the idea of a CD being online only.

A much better move would have been to make a different game with their cloud powered tech and give us a traditional CD game that built on CD1 and CD2. I don't feel destruction is necessarily something CD needed.

I can't wait to see the new CD.

Anyway, as to Rare games. I'm hoping for Conker and Banjo. Those two would be very nice additions to my growing library

 

[Chris1]

Didn't Kampf say their tech was completely different to that in SC? I know their reasons fo why their destruction tech is cloud powered, I'm just not sold on the idea as XBL isn't exactly bullet proof and I hate the idea of a CD being online only.

A much better move would have been to make a different game with their cloud powered tech and give us a traditional CD game that built on CD1 and CD2. I don't feel destruction is necessarily something CD needed.

Just looked through kamps post history and you're correct

if i remember correctly ken lobb said its using a toned down version of the crackdown destruction and because the scale is small enough they simply used a few cpu cores to do the computing locally. the destruction in crackdown will be much bigger.

The Crackdown engine and the one Screamride is using remain two completely different things. Don't get me wrong, I really like what they did with Screamride especially since it runs locally, but with Crackdown we have very different goals, requirements and also possibilities. However - and I'm repeating myself here - I still think the destruction in Screamride is very well done already and if performed right pretty satisfying.

At least I'm not going crazy if other people thought the same as I did. But I trust Kamp so I'll take Kamps word for it. Maybe we misinterpreted ken lobb or something.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

If the Screamride demo's performance is the same as the retail build then... no. The frame-rate drops constantly and putting that in an open world with NPCs, vehicles, particles, day/night cycle, etc, the game's frame-rate would run in the single digits.

Yeah, the frame-rate isn't great, but I'm sure they could get it performing better with some more time in the oven. After all, it's not doing that much more than RF: Guerilla and that had a much better frame-rate...

Just looked through kamps post history and you're correct

At least I'm not going crazy if other people thought the same as I did. But I trust Kamp so I'll take Kamps word for it. Maybe we misinterpreted ken lobb or something.

What did Ken Lobb say?

I feel I missed something. Something about CD and SC using the same engines?

 

[Kampfheld]

He didn'say "four games based on Rare IPs", he said "four Rare IPs".

Correct.

I don't feel destruction is necessarily something CD needed.

It's completely up to us to prove you otherwise. And I'm very confident we will do so.

Regarding CD/SR tech: there are similarities because both are featuring destruction tech. I think this is what Klobb was talking about. You could argue that this is a sneak-peek at the much larger-scaled destruction in CD. Still, technically, both remain two different things.

 

[Majanew]

Yeah, the frame-rate isn't great, but I'm sure they could get it performing better with some more time in the oven. After all, it's not doing that much more than RF: Guerilla and that had a much better frame-rate...

I was way more impressed with RF Guerilla's destruction than Screamride's. I really do hope Crackdown is an online-only game so I can see cloud-enabled destruction in real world tests to finally put an end to "teh clowdz" controversy that likes to pop up when it's mentioned.

 

[Chris1]

What did Ken Lobb say?

I feel I missed something. Something about CD and SC using the same engines?

Honestly I'm not sure lol. Something in the back of my mind thought they were and after reading big_z's post saying he thought ken lobb saying something along those lines, I figured that's where I got that idea from too since we both thought roughly the same thing. I tried googling a few things and found nothing really hinting as much.. So I don't know where I or big_z got that idea from. Basically it seems like I'm talking nonsense and you haven't missed anything.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

It's completely up to us to prove you otherwise. And I'm very confident we will do so.

Regarding CD/SR tech: there are similarities because both are featuring destruction tech. I think this is what Klobb was talking about. You could argue that this is a sneak-peek at the much larger-scaled destruction in CD. Still, technically, both remain two different things.

I really hope you can. I want to believe that such a decision wouldn't have been made unless it really made sense and brought something new to the table.

I'm still cautious/worried though. I'd still much rather not see too big of a focus on destruction in CD and rather see a game that builds upon what came before. More transforming vehicles, kingpins with super powers, city wide lieutenant battles, reinforcements when you attack lieutenants, etc.

I was way more impressed with RF Guerilla's destruction than Screamride's. I really do hope Crackdown is an online-only game so I can see cloud-enabled destruction in real world tests to finally put an end to "teh clowdz" controversy that likes to pop up when it's mentioned.

Yeah, Guerilla tech still remains very impressive. Really not sure why SC seems to struggle so much when it's not doing that much more.

I'm definitely interested to see what the cloud brings to gaming beyond dedicated servers, but I maintain I would have preferred it was introduced with a different game. To have waited so long for a new CD only to have it be online only and with some newly developed cloud tech is worrying.

Honestly I'm not sure lol. Something in the back of my mind thought they were and after reading big_z's post saying he thought ken lobb saying something along those lines, I figured that's where I got that idea from too since we both thought roughly the same thing. I tried googling a few things and found nothing really hinting as much.. So I don't know where I or big_z got that idea from. Basically it seems like I'm talking nonsense and you haven't missed anything.

Hehe.

I wouldn't worry. It happens to the best of us.

 

[Kampfheld]

I really hope you can. I want to believe that such a decision wouldn't have been made unless it really made sense and brought something new to the table.

I'm still cautious/worried though. I'd still much rather not see too big of a focus on destruction in CD and rather see a game that builds upon what came before. More transforming vehicles, kingpins with super powers, city wide lieutenant battles, reinforcements when you attack lieutenants, etc.

It's not about replacing fundamental game features that are connected to the Crackdowns identity anyway but adding another dynamical layer of possible satisfication moments. Crackdowns unique identity first. Everything else (tech etc.) second.

It's not like "okay, we got this cool tech - which IP would fit to it?". It was more like "Okay, Crackdown needs to return - but what can we do to take it one step further". You pretty much already had the same Crackdown experience in two titles. So why not try something new here.

 

[Steverulez]

I believe in Kampfheld!

We need to get badges or something, perhaps a hashtag?

I do have some curiosities about Crackdown but as they've not shown much I wouldnt say I was worried, there are a lot of ways things could go and after the way Microsoft treated Crackdown 2 I think its in their best interests to make a game that does the series justice (or not bother at all). With Dave Jones heavily involved I believe that if they wanted to do something that wasn't Crackdown, they would have just made a new IP.

 

[Majanew]

Yeah, Guerilla tech still remains very impressive. Really not sure why SC seems to struggle so much when it's not doing that much more.

I'm definitely interested to see what the cloud brings to gaming beyond dedicated servers, but I maintain I would have preferred it was introduced with a different game. To have waited so long for a new CD only to have it be online only and with some newly developed cloud tech is worrying.

Yeah, I understand where you're coming from. But we also know that if the new Crackdown was the same old as CD 1&2 -- just in 900p-1080p with better graphics -- it would get trashed by some, and the "that's not next-gen gameplay" would get thrown around. Something fresh added to Crackdown could be a great thing... if it works. Bringing down half of a building to get to some previously unreachable orbs could be very cool. If the online stumbles like TMCC or Driveclub then it could be a disaster. Having trouble connecting or some other unseen issue that rears its ugly head once tens-to-hundreds of thousands are playing -- with no offline mode to fall back on -- could lose some people their jobs. Hopefully, the Crackdown devs are allowed the necessary time to get it running near-perfect before release. That's the thing, I guess. Worth risking the Crackdown IP on unproven cloud destruction?

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

It's not about replacing fundamental game features that are connected to the Crackdowns identity anyway but adding another dynamical layer of possible satisfication moments. Crackdowns unique identity first. Everything else (tech etc.) second.

It's not like "okay, we got this cool tech - which IP would fit to it?". It was more like "Okay, Crackdown needs to return - but what can we do to take it one step further". You pretty much already had the same Crackdown experience in two titles. So why not try something new here.

Trying something new is good if it makes sense and doesn't fundamentally change what Crackdown is. Remember, most would be happy with a beefed up Crackdown 1 so i wouldn't be changing the formula too much.

2 barely changed much (I loved 2) and people weren't happy.

My curiosity stems from orb hunting when buildings can cone down. Do buildings get rebuilt over time?

 

[Leflus]

I believe in Kampfheld!

We need to get badges or something, perhaps a hashtag?

Not the Kampfheld we deserved but the Kampfheld we needed

 

[Leyasu]

It's not about replacing fundamental game features that are connected to the Crackdowns identity anyway but adding another dynamical layer of possible satisfication moments. Crackdowns unique identity first. Everything else (tech etc.) second.

It's not like "okay, we got this cool tech - which IP would fit to it?". It was more like "Okay, Crackdown needs to return - but what can we do to take it one step further". You pretty much already had the same Crackdown experience in two titles. So why not try something new here.

Are we going to see it at E3 this year? Sorry if you have already confirmed this. I don't follow your posts

 

[Kampfheld]

Yeah, I understand where you're coming from. But we also know that if the new Crackdown was the same old as CD 1&2 -- just in 900p-1080p with better graphics -- it would get trashed by some, and the "that's not next-gen gameplay" would get thrown around. Something fresh added to Crackdown could be a great thing... if it works. Bringing down half of a building to get to some previously unreachable orbs could be very cool. If the online stumbles like TMCC or Driveclub then it could be a disaster. Having trouble connecting or some other unseen issue that rears its ugly head once tens-to-hundreds of thousands are playing -- with no offline mode to fall back on -- could lose some people their jobs. Hopefully, the Crackdown devs are allowed the necessary time to get it running near-perfect before release. That's the thing, I guess. Worth risking the Crackdown IP on unproven cloud destruction?

You don't concentrate on risks. You concentrate on results. No risk is too great to prevent the necessary job from getting done. (Chuck Yeager).

If a new IP would've been created just to show the tech ... Do you really think this IP would've ever had the chance to create its own identity? The game would've probably being overshadowed by the tech itself. And that's about it. This is exactly what we don't want. It's okay if Crackdown will be a kind of flagship-title for cloud computing. We understand that and this is fine. In the end tho it's the game and its unique identity that matters the most. Not the tech. Every single decision is being made in favor of the Crackdown identity.

Are we going to see it at E3 this year? Sorry if you have already confirmed this. I don't follow your posts

I can not confirm things like this right here, I'm sorry.

 

[Breakfast at Noon]

Donkey Kong? Nintendo still owns that IP (which is why Nintendo has been releasing Donkey Kong Country titles on Wii U), Microsoft got Banjo Kazooie.

It's a joke based on something some suits said upon buying rare.
Oh 4 pages in, this probally been said already sorry.

 

[Leyasu]

I can not confirm things like this right here, I'm sorry.

Ok mate. I had to ask!!! I want to see this...

I need some CD lol

 

[Majanew]

You don't concentrate on risks. You concentrate on results. No risk is too great to prevent the necessary job from getting done. (Chuck Yeager).

If a new IP would've been created just to show the tech ... Do you really think this IP would've ever had the chance to create its own identity? The game would've probably being overshadowed by the tech itself. And that's about it. This is exactly what we don't want. It's okay if Crackdown will be a kind of flagship-title for clod computing. We understand that and this is fine. In the end tho it's the game and its unique identity that matters the most. Not the tech. Every single decision is being made in favor of the Crackdown identity.

That's cool and all, but if the game has the same level of destruction as the rendered teaser, then it'll become all about the tech for me -- even though I love Crackdown. Even the Screamride demo had me constantly replaying it just to keep destroying shit. Something about breaking things in games is satisfying. Even breaking the same damn thing over and over can have me addicted. lol

Ok mate. I had to ask!!! I want to see this...

I need some CD lol

If the rumor holds true, it's a 2016 title. So it could show up at E3. *crosses fingers*

 

[Prine]

Ih my oh my

Real Banko + Conker PLEASE!!!

 

[El-Pistolero]

is rare big enough to be working on more than 1 game?

The studio is quite large. The last time I checked, the figure was around 300 employees...If I remember correctly, that is!

 

[Gen X]

Microsoft got Donkey Kong when they bought Rare right? Hopefully we get a new DKC game.

They got Mario too, can't wait.

No wonder the Wii U is doing poorly!

 

[charsace]

I could see PD coming back as a stealth action game.

 

[Leflus]

I could see PD coming back as a stealth action game.

Perfect Dark is probably the one Rare IP that could easily be rebooted into something else without people objecting to it.

I'd be interested in a different take on the IP at least. They already have Gears and Halo for the multiplayer shootbang crowd.

Splinter Dark Perfection

The studio is quite large. The last time I checked, the figure was around 300 employees...If I remember correctly, that is!

Far from it. They have roughly 140 employees according to Linkedin. While there probably are some employees without Linkedin accounts, I doubt the number is very high.

 

[ElTopo]

If they're doing a Banjo sequel then what's up with former Rare devs making a spiritual successor?

So, I don't think a Banjo sequel is actually happening. They're most likely doing a new Battletoads and maybe Perfect Dark/Conker.

 

[Drayco21]

I still hope one of the Rare IPs in development is a sequel to Kameo; it's still my favorite game from them, and it'd do a lot to push me to buy an Xbone.

 

[Castef]

Idea: they are developing Microsoft's own Skylanders-like franchise.

 

[TheGreatDirector]

 

[ChosenPredator]

If they're doing a Banjo sequel then what's up with former Rare devs making a spiritual successor?

So, I don't think a Banjo sequel is actually happening. They're most likely doing a new Battletoads and maybe Perfect Dark/Conker.

it seems like something Microsoft would pick up so they wouldn't have to build banjo and rare can make something else like Conker/Kameo or something completely new.

I have a vibe Viva Pinata is going to make a return to though.

 

[RE_Player]

Never liked anything Twisted Pixel developed.

 

[Bluemercury]

Why do MS insist in tarnishing Rare IPS... They have so much other IPS in the vault from other dead studios they killed...

 

[Steverulez]

Why do MS insist in tarnishing Rare IPS... They have so much other IPS in the vault from other dead studios they killed...

The salt in this post is delicious.

 

[Bluemercury]

The salt in this post is delicious.

Delicious its not...

 

[Castef]

The new studio working on the Banjo like game is way more exciting.

Fact is: people wrote similar things about Zoonami...

 

[Steverulez]

Delicious its not...

Well, you walk into a thread with nothing to add to it apart from to complain about Microsoft using IPs they own (and that aren't even confirmed yet), i'd say the deliciousness was real.

Oh and I don't think Killer Instinct on Xbox One tarnished anything.

 

[IncognitoPanda]

If they're doing a Banjo sequel then what's up with former Rare devs making a spiritual successor?

So, I don't think a Banjo sequel is actually happening. They're most likely doing a new Battletoads and maybe Perfect Dark/Conker.

Well, it was rumored that a new Banjo would be revealed at E3, so it must have been in development long before Platronic announced their Banjo spiritual successor!