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Street Fighter V - Charlie Nash trailer; beta for all pre-orders in NA

I'd have to agree. I've always thought as Tekken as tbe better series for serious or realistic characters, while Street Fighter is best for ones who make no sense. That's obviously not mutually exclusive of course, but still.

Man, Tekken ain't even close to serious. They got a fucking dinosaur and kangaroo in the line up. Not to mention that dumbass Devil Jin and Ogre and countless other bullshit.
 
lol @ people who don't think Ken will be in the initial line up, this is Street Fighter baby, not Versus. When Capcom broke the emergency glass for SF3 it was him and Ryu they inserted into the game, Gouki and Chun had to hold dat L and wait for 2nd Impact and 3rd Strike respectively.

with MK X coming out and tremendous amount of hype it has behind it Capcom should be careful. As of now MK X will probably dominate the FG market and if capcom wants to be king of fighters again they gotta really do something to bring in the casuals. I really hope they listen to player feedback and experiment with the games speed. no disk locked DLC i really hope they learned their lesson from SFXTekken. And i really hope they add lots of singleplay content for casuals. Cause so far aside from the speed this game looks amazing to me.

Unless MKX fundamentally changes the way the game is played than it aint dominating any FGC.
 
Its pretty resource consuming having a stage for each character, I'd be happy with stages shared with other characters like Rufus/Ken and the Drive - In At Night stage in SFIV

And yet Arcsys consistently does this in their games with much smaller budgets than a mainline SF.
 
People keep saying that SFV happens before SF3 because of Bison. Which, to be honest, isn't really making any sense. M. Bison has never truly died and just because he didn't show up in SF3 means nothing.

However, the fact that Ryu has the Denjin Hadouken and that his Gi is practiacally ruined and falling apart, is evidence that SFV takes place at some point after SF3. Now, Capcom could just be adding shit for whatever reason, but it's more likely that SFV takes place after SF3.

I'm pretty sure that someone leaked that SF5 happened before SF3 but I could be wrong.

Edited: I will try to find it for people who want source on this. It was all over few different threads, and we had like few different people sharing the leaks at once.
 
Unless MKX fundamentally changes the way the game is played than it aint dominating any FGC.

lol block button.

I'm pretty sure that someone leaked that SF5 happened before SF3 but I could be wrong.

Someone claimed to "leak" it, but we have no reason to believe it.

It's probably hovering around SFIII because Ryu and Chun both have moves they only had in 3S. Whether it's before or after, I don't see any compelling reason to see one over the other.
 
Man, Tekken ain't even close to serious. They got a fucking dinosaur and kangaroo in the line up. Not to mention that dumbass Devil Jin and Ogre and countless other bullshit.

Maybe serious isn't the right word. But I think the best way I can express my feelings is by comparing Honda and Ganryu. Which seems more like a "real" sumo wrestler? Between Balrog and Steve, which character do you feel more like you're actually fighting by boxing?
 
Someone claimed to "leak" it, but we have no reason to believe it.

It's probably hovering around SFIII because Ryu and Chun both have moves they only had in 3S. Whether it's before or after, I don't see any compelling reason to see one over the other.

Well, I know that he leaked it here so if he's wrong then it would be ban city for him. Again, there are some people that don't really care about accounts tho.
 
Wonder if they would ever bring back Ryu's stepping side kick from SFIII. Loved that move. Loved hitting a EX stepping side off the wall to a weak shoryuken just to piss people off.
 
So psyched Bison is back. Hopefully, he plays similarly to IV and not like Alpha (judge me, I do not care).

That being said, I'd love to see Birdie. The chain command throw was so fun.
 
Maybe serious isn't the right word. But I think the best way I can express my feelings is by comparing Honda and Ganryu. Which seems more like a "real" sumo wrestler? Between Balrog and Steve, which character do you feel more like you're actually fighting by boxing?

The Street Figher cast I would describe as more colorful if that's what you mean, yeah. I still think Tekken is really out there though and goofy in its own way.
 
Misread this as Kevin Nash. Still, awesome! Tearin' quads everywhere.

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WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Capcom totally needs to change him to Kevin. nWo 4 LIFE!!!
 
That's the problem. She already graduated a long time ago! She's now in a PE teacher in her early 20s who dreams of fucking Ryu's brains out. So why did they insist on putting her in that damn schoolgirl outfit? She should be wearing this




Why cant capcom understand their own character's canon storyline??

I'm down with Mature!Sakura
 
lol block button.

I wouldn't even say that the block button is their biggest problem. Ok, it's weird, but everybody is probably so used to play MK that way that we would see a lt of complaining if they went with the Injustice control scheme.

They always suffered with an unbalanced roster. MK9 ninjas and some other character simply dominate the others. Of course, it isnt' Injustice-unbalanced, but it is a problem.
 
I agree, bring back

-Plane to different countries on loading screen
-More national stages like the Honda Bathhouse
-Custom intros
 
That was a cover answer. I believe Combofiend said it was really dropped because post-KO hits would sometimes freeze the game so removing them altogether was the easy fix.
Ahh ok, didn't know there was a real reason, because that other one sounded really ridiculous. Well, I guess now they have more than enough power. I want to style and profile in my fighters again, so please put post KO hits back in Capcom.
 
If the 16 characters rumor is true I hope that after Bison we get no more than one more SFII character(Cammy please), I want pleny of SFIII and new characters.
 
If the 16 characters rumor is true I hope that after Bison we get no more than one more SFII character(Cammy please), I want pleny of SFIII and new characters.

I'm thinking 4 new characters and maybe 6 SF2 people. Everyone else will be fan favorites from 3 and Alpha and maybe 3 veterans not in USF4.

I don't think Guile will make it in yet because Charlie holds his spot. I'd even argue Ken and Akuma won't make it in so the character variety would be large but they are both extremely popular. Guile will be in eventually, just not in the first edition.
 
I'm thinking 4 new characters and maybe 6 SF2 people. Everyone else will be fan favorites from 3 and Alpha and maybe 3 veterans not in USF4.

I don't think Guile will make it in yet because Charlie holds his spot. I'd even argue Ken and Akuma won't make it in so the character variety would be large but they are both extremely popular. Guile will be in eventually, just not in the first edition.
Thrown in Poison and I'm fine with this.
 
If the 16 characters rumor is true I hope that after Bison we get no more than one more SFII character(Cammy please), I want pleny of SFIII and new characters.

You're getting at least two more in Ken and Akuma. Anyone who thinks they wont be in are delusional.

I'm thinking 4 new characters and maybe 6 SF2 people. Everyone else will be fan favorites from 3 and Alpha and maybe 3 veterans not in USF4.

I don't think Guile will make it in yet because Charlie holds his spot. I'd even argue Ken and Akuma won't make it in so the character variety would be large but they are both extremely popular. Guile will be in eventually, just not in the first edition.

This Charlie plays nothing like Guile though, by the looks of it. So I would say Guile's spot is still there. I think he has as good a chance as anyone else as making it in the initial roster. Minus Remy because lol.
 
There was Chun-Li's Alpha redesign... don't see why they couldn't do the same for Sakura.

Yeah, but even she's now back to her original outfit.

Does Cody count? Guy, Rolento, Sodom, Hugo, and Poison wear their Final Fight outfits in Street Fighter, but Cody wears a prison uniform instead.

That's true. I just think Capcom views the outfits to be iconic and that's why Sakura still wears that schoolgirl outfit. If they're really going the MOBA route in terms of how they're going to support this game, then i'd expect every character to have an obscene amount of outfits in the long run.

So, when do people expect to see the new fighters? I could see one popping up at E3 while EVO seems like more of a place where they'd show off the return of a long requested character. Someone like Karin, Q, or Mika.
 
This Charlie plays nothing like Guile though, by the looks of it. So I would say Guile's spot is still there. I think he has as good a chance as anyone else as making it in the initial roster. Minus Remy because lol.

Frankly, I think Capcom really doesn't want a character that plays like Guile in V and I'd be happy with that. One of IV's big issues is that it (successfully) bet everything on the fans who were casually familiar with the phenomenon that was Street Fighter II and were nostalgic for that game. That's why we got a game with a mostly SF2 cast with their wonkily animated moves (upside down Guile kick) and simplistic, smaller movesets. I think they felt if they changed these classic characters too much fans would feel alienated. I think Omega is the testing ground for V and how many of these characters in IV should have played from the get-go.

Frankenstein's Charlie allows then to go even further than just a Guile reboot would allow, making a more interesting and faster paced character. A SFV trailer for Guile that shows off his 2 specials and a bunch of 2 hit combos would seem odd compared to the other cast trailers so far.

Again, I expect Guile to make it eventually and for him to be significantly retooled, just not right away.
 
Well, I know that he leaked it here so if he's wrong then it would be ban city for him. Again, there are some people that don't really care about accounts tho.

Do people really get banned? Some guy that claimed to be a journalist said that characters would be removed in the English version of the Jump game and nothing happened to him.
 
In North America, players who pre-order the game will automatically be enrolled into the beta program.

Are they locking off the Beta to pre-orders only? Or will it be invite-only as well? I no longer pre-order games.

I'm glad theyre doing a beta - hopefully theyll get things right on PC this time. I'm also hoping they overhaul their lobby system to something more akin to Dota 2, with heavy focus on online competitions / community building, etc.
 
It would be cool if they have different modes like in MK where they have different moves and use old styles of charactars that won't return. Like if Cammy had a Decapre mode.
 
If Charlie and Bison is in Guile has to be in. It's like having Gouken and Ryu in a game, and then no Akuma.

That said it's not impossible for them to vary how Guile plays a bit either, though obviously not to the extent of Charlie.
 
In North America, players who pre-order the game will automatically be enrolled into the beta program.

Are they locking off the Beta to pre-orders only? Or will it be invite-only as well? I no longer pre-order games.

I'm glad theyre doing a beta - hopefully theyll get things right on PC this time. I'm also hoping they overhaul their lobby system to something more akin to Dota 2, with heavy focus on online competitions / community building, etc.

I'm not expecting much in terms of a client, but I hope they can make it happen. At the very least, let us have some kind of lobby system and basic, fun profile stuff like showcasing your top 3 characters or win streaks or other stats, etc.
 
Ken Bogard (French commentator for the SF scene out there) was the source. He mentioned 4 new characters and 3 of their names and most other info. It was in youtube of him playing Pokemon that people translated.
 
Do people really get banned? Some guy that claimed to be a journalist said that characters would be removed in the English version of the Jump game and nothing happened to him.

Let a mod know. In general, they try to vet people who claim to have inside sources. If they're giving out bad info saying they're "in the know," then yes, the mods will ban them. But the mods aren't everywhere and might not have seen this particular person make those claims.
 
I want Guile in SFV just so they have a chance to redo his fucked up face. I couldn't get into his looks in SF4.

You probably shouldn't get your hopes up in that regard, seeing as how the game looks like SF4 on steroids.

Charlie is like the biggest reason Guile even shows up to these things. He kinda has to be here

That would be hilarious, spending the rest of his life searching for Charlie only for everyone else in the SF world to find and fight Charlie except Guile himself in SFV.
 
Ken and akuma are in. No matter what you do, a significant number of fish will only use shotos. If there were only ryu, all of those people would use only ryu. I like having 3-6 shotos for that group to chose from. It creates some variety. They are not wasted slots.
 
I'm almost 100% sure that both Ken, Akuma and Guile will be there.They are too popular and won't fail like in SF3 keeping most the fan favorite characters out of the list.

In addition to that, make sure that in addition to the 16-19 (my bet) characters of the first version there will be a lot more coming through DLC. But they need fan favorites to sell games.
 
You mean character themes? Yea in SFIV each character has its own music theme (remixes from SF2, 3 and Alpha), but not stages.
This is hidden in sound options, though. By default you will only hear the stage's music...

I think in SFIV there's some dumb limitation like it only ever plays the character theme for player 1 or something. At least make it so the challenger's theme plays.
 
Do people really get banned? Some guy that claimed to be a journalist said that characters would be removed in the English version of the Jump game and nothing happened to him.

I presume that no one report him to moderators. Moferator's can't really check every posts and threads on NeoGAF so it's up to some members to report the wrongoer.

I have seen some members got banned for claiming that they have source and being wrong about it. At long they acting like its 100% sure thing without warning anyone that it might change.
 
Including a resurrected evil Charlie without Guile is like having the Winter Soldier without Captain America. Guile's gotta be included.
We don't know if he's been turned evil yet, his quote to Chun-Li was ambiguous. He may just been working in more "unorthodox" fashion now.

I mostly agree about Guile though, Abel should be there too. (I'd be fine with Guile just being in the story initially and added later as playable, but Abel needs to be on the roster for sure.)
 
Where's the 16 coming from? That's hard.

Ryu
Ken
Akuma
Chun
Blanka/Dhalsim/Guile
Nash
Karen?
Haggar
Alex
Yun
Juri
Bison
Gill/Urien
New
New
New

Assuming the new ones are all sort of weirdos to balance out the rest I have here. Charlie's basically a new character anyway.
 
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