Of course S6 will outsell M9. Almost 10x as much if you refer to M7 vs S4 ratio.
IPhone 6 has already outsold GS5.
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Of course S6 will outsell M9. Almost 10x as much if you refer to M7 vs S4 ratio.
IPhone 6 has already outsold GS5.
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Admiral Woofington
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Do you have unlimited 4g? I don't. What about when you take your phone to another country or a place with shitty signal? I gotta do that. You're basically saying "why do you need all that memory?" when reality is I want to have all if not MOST of my music with me in physical form because these are realities for me. I don't have unlimited 4g, I get like 2-3 GB month and just surfing the web on a regular basis nearly depletes that. Base 32GB is NOT nice because my phone is already filling up with apps and if I had to decide between apps and music I'd be fucked.
Base 64 GB at the same price as what the S4 released? I'm willing to listen. I need 32GB minimum of music (+/- the necessary storage for updates/software) and whatever is left for phone is the minimum for me.
terrisus
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Agreed.
Basically, for me:
MicroSD slot: Reason I went with a Samsung
Waterproof: Reason I upgraded from my regular S4 to an S5 Active
With both of those being removed...
Yeah, I'm sticking with this phone for the indefinite future now.
I'm fairly certain a waterproof version will be made in the future.
I keep hearing this in this thread: legit question - source?
i don't mind HTC, they make high quality phones, but doing pretty much the same design 3 generations in a row, when the first and second generation couldn't really help them secure a stronger foothold in the mobile market, is a questionable strategy imho.
what would make people who didn't buy the One (M7) or the M8 choose the M9?
Admiral Woofington
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I think his main source is that iphones sell as well as they do. Just because the grand majority of people give zero fucks at paying a HUGE stupid premium for more internal memory on their phone doesn't mean I need to pay that.
I like the look of it, but don't love it. Hate that they've gone for a more rounded look, similar to the iPhone 6. Looks far less slick than something like the Note 6. But I do like the fact that it has a glass front and back, as well as the metal sides. Camera looks fantastic, screen immense. But honestly, as a Galaxy user for a few iterations now, I'm holding off for now till I learn more. Resolution of the screen is utterly pointless (I've never needed my S5 to be sharper, or have more pixels), and the lack of an SD card slot is a huge blow. Unless the battery life is absolutely fantastic, I may finally be switching away from the Galaxy line with this one. But no removable micro SD slot is a massive blunder imo.
terrisus
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I hope so.
Not having it is a huge step backwards.
P.S. I'm using the waterproof feature of my S5 Active right now.
What can I say? Baths are relaxing >.>
Your Entertainer
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First of all, try and get a better wireless plan if possible - many consumers with high end phones are using them with a larger data allowance and understandably so.
Secondly, just realize that what you're describing is extremely situational.
Samsung ditched MicroSD for very good reasons. If it doesn't gel with you, then by all means go with something else. That's the beauty of Android. But realize that the vast majority of users have found other solutions, and you should do your best to accommodate, as that's where the market is headed. Broadening your horizons will only help you out in the long run. Think critically about your usage habits. Do you really NEED all of your music with you ALL the time? Can you not be hooked up to Wifi a majority of the time? How many apps are you using on a regular basis?
Admiral Woofington
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Shouldn't this question be "what would make people who BOUGHT the M7 or M8 buy the M9?" ??? Because my understanding is if the design and improvements are minimal from the M7 or M8 then these people don't want to switch.
But people like me who are looking to upgrade from the S4 this sounds like the best option. Battery life is HTC's strong poing, and the G3 as far as I hear the UI is janky and the battery life sucks. Right now my choices aren't definitive, Samsung would have to prove to me that I can live without the SD card and then see battery life comparisons.
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nature boy
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Yeah, fair enough. It's just what Samsung probably thought.
Also they make extra cash on additional storage.
CPU wise the Exynos seems to be better than the 810. GPU wise I don't know.
We don't know the extra features that tend to come with the snapdragons are present in the exynos: All the LTE bands, ANT+, GPS/Glonass/Baidu, WIFI versions. I'm sure it's pretty close, but there's no confirmation yet.
HammerOfThor
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Holy shit a read a Forbes article saying the price may break four digits. Ew.
m_shortpants
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Looks pretty cool but I'm a Note guy for life now!
family_guy
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SD card removal is a big deal. I don't have a lot of music, but games and movies are a different story. Even though 128gb is available, for someone buying a phone off contract, I'm sure that model is going to be in the $900+ range and that's more than what I'm willing to spend on a phone.
outunderthestars
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128GB edge version could easily get close to that. Yay for no micro sd card option!
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Yes it uses DDR4 memory.
Exynos chip will be on par with SD810. Exynos will be more efficient, likely the GPU will be weaker but nothing major different.
Admiral Woofington
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Getting a better wireless plan = having to pay for my own. I'm a working man but right now my parents don't mind continuing to pay for the family service they've paid this whole time for. My older sister and I basically have free cellphone plan for the time being.
It's extremely situational in the sense that people who have unlimited or decently big caps on their data plan don't mind going with cloud, but unfortunately I do because of what I mentioned. They haven't really said why they ditched MicroSD and what their solution for this is. I've said above that if they can offer me a 64GB internal memory phone at a not inflated price that they have my attention for the time being. But seeing the trend of phone makers in general I doubt they will.
Do I need all of my music with me? Well as I described above as of right this moment with all of my situations combined I do. Once my folks decide they no longer want to pay for our cell phone plan I'll consider going to a phone company and get a better data plan. At that point music streaming might become an option.
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Wasn't being snarky - I just keep hearing things also like "Most people don't care about Micro SD". Anecdotally throughout the years from friends in regards to the Galaxy thats been one of the constants as to why they've not gone elsewhere.
well, this should also be the question.
But HTC would want to try to increase their market share. (they're currently not doing particularly well in the market). That means convincing people who were using other platforms / phones made by other manufacturers to switch to their phones.
And i am asking: Why would anyone switch to a phone that's (more or less) been around for 2 years already. Wouldn't those have already switched?
I don't think the other way around - "people getting bored from the same old design" would make satisfied users of HTC phones switch away. That's been said about iPhones over and over and over again (their industrial design becoming stale, their OS becoming boring) and it never lead to a decline in sales.
Veritigo_X
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You make good points for 2 & 3, so I'll just address 1 since this is the biggest deal breaker for me. The other two I could live without if the S6 had an SD slot.
I don't have unlimited 4G or 4G that works everywhere I need it to. I'm not always connected to a wifi network either. A cloud solution for music is not acceptable for me and shouldn't be a substitute for local music like some companies want it to be. Having all my music on my phone is a big deal for me and I'm not buying a phone without suitable storage space. I suppose I could swap out music every so often depending on what I want to listen to, but that is a pain and a huge step down from my 3 year old phone. Right now, the only time I have to mess with my music is when I'm adding new albums.
I just find it hilarious that Samsung is getting rid of features that they once touted over the competition.
I would wait for the Note 5 as I'm doing that as well. It's also rumored to be the first 4K phone.
Um, while I agree this looks more like an iPhone than ever in terms of design; It's still leagues ahead of Apple technology wise.
HammerOfThor
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So spec wise are the two phones the same? With the only difference being the edge screen?
terrisus
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Your Entertainer
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Do you have wifi? That can ridiculously cut down on data usage and can serve as upload/download time for your cloud stuff. I'm nearly always on Wifi no matter where I'm at. If you're really that data constricted, then perhaps a smartphone like this in today's data-heavy world isn't for you.
Again, try and be as open-minded as possible and really examine your usage habits. I think you'll find that you can change more than you think.
There's nothing anyone can do about the bullshit storage pricing lol. I think everybody agrees with you on that one. Availability is more the problem with Samsung here in the US.
Active S4/S5 are slightly updated flagship-phones with some of the most durable hardware on the market. Dropped my S4 Active like 5 times, only some scratches on the sides, screen remained completely intact. These things are actually built for usage. Hope they bring S6 Active with better Android support.
I've never understood the argument that consumers should use google music or spotify to stream music to their phone. I get it... but a lot of people prefer Micro SD cards because they are much simpler and don't require high data use or needing an internet connection everywhere.
And this is coming from someone who has an unlimited 4G data plan and uses more than 50GB data each month. Yet I still have a Micro SD Card with 60GB+ music/videos/images.
And this is coming from someone who has an unlimited 4G data plan and uses more than 50GB data each month. Yet I still have a Micro SD Card with 60GB+ music/videos/images.
Your Entertainer
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Not only that, but they openly mocked themselves for it. Lol.
Admiral Woofington
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Well myself as a consumer I want a new phone to upgrade to. Prior to this I'd argue people just bought Galaxys because it was the 'android flagship phone' in the sense that people just recommended it and it was basically the equivalent of the iphone in brand/name recognition.
There's probably only going to be a small market of people like myself who will be switching out from Galaxy S series to go into something else due to SD card removal (again unless I'm wowed). This wasn't a consideration before because Galaxy phones were still top of the line and competitive compared to the competition.
How's the chinese phone anyways? The One +One? I'm curious if maybe that's another option to upgrade.
I kind of like the edge gimmick now that it's on both sides. But it seems like it would be annoying with video.
I do find it interesting that Samsung's response to falling sales is to create another iphone clone and remove some stuff that differentiated their handset from it (removable battery, sd, waterproof). I wonder if it'll have the effect they want.
I do find it interesting that Samsung's response to falling sales is to create another iphone clone and remove some stuff that differentiated their handset from it (removable battery, sd, waterproof). I wonder if it'll have the effect they want.
WhiskerFrisker
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No way. WiFi isn't always readily available and what types of plan he has should have no bearing on what phone he should use.
DLNA. But I agree.
Your Entertainer
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I've also never understood the argument that someone needs 64gb of music on them at all times.
I can see why MicroSD would be preferred in that situation. But for most people - with much less music, a good signal/on wifi - it's not needed. Decent internal storage (32gb is definitely decent) can get them by better, faster, and with less drain on a battery. Cloud storage comes in for those who absolutely want more media than the internal storage can provide. I think that if most people re-examine their usage habits,they'll find that they can adapt reasonably well.
nature boy
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I'm really intrigued at how much the 128gb version will cost.
outunderthestars
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The S6 doesn't support DLNA
Yeah, they look so out of place on an otherwise decent looking OS skin.
Your Entertainer
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The type of plan should absolutely (unfortunately) be a factor.
What if you have 1GB or less? (as some people actually do
) You just don't have the data to utilize the extra functionality a smartphone provides.And again, Wifi is situational. Long public commute every day? Maybe data becomes a factor. For my purposes, the only times I don't have wifi are brief (<15 minute) commutes in which I'm driving anyways. And that's good wifi. My data usage is ridiculously low as a result. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that most people won't have wifi a lot of the time. At home? At work?
How does that work when I'm on my way to work?
Not just music, can be photo's, videos, important documents etc...
Cloud storage and streaming uses more battery than an SD card does.
Seriously? Ok this is getting ridicolous.
Admiral Woofington
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I do have wifi but day to day I go from my home to my work. Having to do this basically means that I have to guess what music I'll be in the mood for the next day which there is no way in hell I'm knowing that with how varied my music collection is. My work I don't use their wifi because I'm usually on NeoGAF when I surf the web, don't need to let them know what I'm doing.
And I really don't understand what you're saying at the end you'll have to explain because I'm doing just fine with surfing the web on a monthly basis with my current plan. I still get email updates and have gps running and everything and I can last a month easily. It's when I decide to stream videos outside of wifi that I need to worry. It almost sounds like you're saying "maybe you shouldn't get a smart phone because the world is going the data plan way of cloud based" and that's silly considering I still have options for MicroSD smartphones.
I 100% agree with you.
It's the same reason we can replace hard drives in say the PS4 for example. 500GB is nowhere near enough for multiple games. Hence why people replace the hard drive. Same with Xbox and external hard drive support.
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