Death Parade |OT| Please watch, with your life at stake.

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FluxWaveZ

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Episode 7

That was a nice episode, as another focusing more on the arbiters and other characters than any game. The explanation behind Decim's "hobby" was actually pretty cool, and successfully gives a wildly different meaning to it from when you're first exposed to his doll collection (from creepy to heartfelt). Also makes me look at the ED differently.

Heh, and as I thought,
that girl from the previous episode is sticking around as Ginti's new assistant. I think it seems he's awakening to some emotions by Decim having done the same with no-name, and he gained an interest in the girl because she was unlike other humans he had encountered.
Seems like next episode will be a particularly special game, so I'm looking forward to it.

It's funny how the supposedly only Arbiter with emotions is the least expressive.

Yeah, it's interesting how they designed that.
 

Lautaro

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Like I said in the beginning, the system is flawed. I hope they realize in the ending that not only is flawed but it cannot be fixed because there cannot be a perfect system to judge something as complex as human morality.

It seems that in the next episode, Decim will receive some "special" cases.

I can't wait.
 
Episode 7

And here i thought i was ready for some Bombs to drop
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What was that again ?

But i've got so many of them in this episode

The meaning of the elevator struck me because it answered some questions i had about that part , like
how the dead could have a psysical presence when they're all dead in various ways , the answer was that they were souls put in dolls and then the soul get sent to the void or not.
Makes much more sense that way.

And decim hobby..damn quite a 180. now that we know about him , this feels much much more different than in ep2

And don't get me started on quin new assistant , i mean i knew it since she was in the opening , but that change of mind make more sense than ever.

Overall excellent episode that trully made things much more entertaining and complex , for all parties involved.

I'm damn hyped for that "special case" , i hope decim will get some tough cases next week ... can't wait.
 
I love this show. Watched 3-7 today and I have to say, they've done a really good job with it. I'd be sick of the show if it were only about the games honestly. So many aspects of this show are top notch for me.
 

Joni

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The topic has inspired me to watch the original special and the series. I find it catchy for the moment, amongst others because of that intro song and Decim. There is not a lot to look forward though, the overarching plot might not be too interesting for the moment.
 

FluxWaveZ

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Episode 8

Certainly one of the most interesting "game" episodes yet, because of the participants. An appropriately slower paced one, to put more emphasis on the guests progressively unraveling their memories. I like how Decim was all "I won't mess with the game this time; the remote doesn't work anyways," and then proceeds to mess with the game anyways. I also like how casually the response came for 'No-name' to be granted
the guests' memories.

First two-parter, and I think that was justified. It will certainly be interesting if their fates turn out to be intertwined. Maybe this could be an outcome where two people are sent to the Void.
 
Is this for sure not getting a second season? I mean they could wrap it up if they spend these last couple episodes wisely. But I'm hoping that we don't get left with a ton of questions but no answers.
 
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Diggeh

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There'd better be another season! If the quality is always this consistent we need more!
 

Lautaro

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Maybe not Decim and co specific stories but I can see a new season working with other arbiters, maybe a "special arbiter" that has to deal with the more messed up humans.

So far the universe is interesting enough.
 

Ninjimbo

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I don't know if this is really the kind of show that I'd want to see stretched beyond its means.
If it keeps putting out episodes of high quality, I don't really see a problem. As it stands right now, Death Parade is fantastic.

The latest episode kind of blew me away. Seeing as how the show has started to build up a formula of sorts, I was really digging how this episode felt like it was disrupting it's own built-up rhythm with a deliberate, slower paced episode while still maintaining all the intrigue the series is so good at developing. It might be best episode yet.
 
If it keeps putting out episodes of high quality, I don't really see a problem. As it stands right now, Death Parade is fantastic.

The latest episode kind of blew me away. Seeing as how the show has started to build up a formula of sorts, I was really digging how this episode felt like it was disrupting it's own built-up rhythm with a deliberate, slower paced episode while still maintaining all the intrigue the series is so good at developing. It might be best episode yet.
I 100 % agree .. this episode played with the previous episode formula to improve everything.
This serie sure has grown since the first episode. it's even more intresting since we know why most of those changes have taken place and it really enhance everything , from the setting to the characters inside.

I'm dying to know how "no name"
will react with those memories since she is aware of her own death and was quite schoked by what she saw.
There is some intresting stuff to play here for everyone character growth.
So just making sure I'm not the only one, but when the kid says "assaulted" he very clearly means "raped and attacked" right?

Considering how messed up she was, it's safe to assume the worst at this point.
 

FluxWaveZ

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Episode 9

Maybe this could be an outcome where two people are sent to the Void.

Welp.

That rant towards Decim from No-name was pretty interesting, and seemed to hit him pretty hard. One more set-up for the upcoming revolution, it looks like. As for the game itself, I loved how they totally twisted the characters at the end. There's a huge difference between how they were when they entered Duodecim in the previous episode, and their despair-driven selves at the very end. Nicely done.
 

Lautaro

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Episode 9: Holy shit!

I'm loving this show, why everything I love must end?!

I'm not sure they showed how the young boy died though, did I miss it?
 
So did the image at the end mean that
both of them got sent to the void?

I feel like Decim was unable to render a judgement at the time so...

and
No-name broke a fuckton of rules. There has to be some sort of consequence, right?
 

Lautaro

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So did the image at the end mean that
both of them got sent to the void?

I feel like Decim was unable to render a judgement at the time so...

and
No-name broke a fuckton of rules. There has to be some sort of consequence, right?

Well, she is being judged too.

I was wondering that too, but it was pointed out that he died of blood loss, due to injuries he suffered from his knife battle with his target.

Oh, I did miss it then.
 
That's one awesome episode.
Episode 9 was full of intense feeligns , excellent twists.
How god so many strong moments, feeligns

That smile from the boy at the end was freaking intense.

I have no more words for this episode. 10/10
 
The most recent episode was intense as fuck. How will they wrap this up satisfactorily in only 3 episodes?
They genuinely can't unless they plan to make this season a self contained tale of Decim and black haired lady. If they attempt to do those two plus whatever is going on in the background polítics then it won't end too well.
 

Articalys

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The whole "must sell BDs to get a second season" is one of those things that people think applies to everything but really doesn't (though of course those sales never hurt, exactly); depending on how the show got made and what it's based on, other factors can be just as important. Death Parade happens to fall into a category of shows where the TV ratings are one of those important measures of success, so if you want the series to continue you can look those up and see how it's doing in that aspect. It's in the same sort of category as Gatchaman Crowds, which got a second season announced three months before its Blu-ray box set was released.

Not saying that Death Parade will absolutely follow a similar pattern or anything -- I mean, we don't even know how/if things'll wrap up in the next few episodes yet, or if they would even intend to make another show in the same setting regardless -- but just that the fact that the BDs are being projected to sell terribly shouldn't be a cause for major concern.
 
They genuinely can't unless they plan to make this season a self contained tale of Decim and black haired lady. If they attempt to do those two plus whatever is going on in the background polítics then it won't end too well.

Agreed. If they try too hard to tie up loose ends I think both ends of the narrative will suffer. The story of Decim is all this season should be (and does seem) to be about.
 

Ninjimbo

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Great episode. I had to rewind that montage at the end. The music and the editing melded so well with the ending. Pretty amazing.
 

Jarmel

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So I thought I would do a post detailing why episode 9 was a fantastic episode visually and I already have over 50 screenshots so this is going to turn into a long post. I decided on finishing it after reading that article Jexhius linked. A big motif of the past two episodes has been communication through the eyes. The eyes are a window to the soul is a classic saying and the past two episodes have really enforced this. In conjunction with that has been a ton of great framing and camerawork to visually represent emotions and ideals.
So Onna gets flooded with the memories and places her hand over her heart. This visually demonstrates the intensity of the memories in a way that Decim never does. Decim doesn't react even when strong feelings are put forth but always carries his duties in a seemingly impassionate manner. By having Onna react in this case, the show highlights how different this arc is compared to the other ones. It's really necessary for Onna to understand the relationship between the two which leads into the ending.
The camera ascerts the power dynamics between the two by angling the camera upwards to Decim which can be take to represent how he's the more knowledgeable towards the two. Something the show touches upon at the end of the episode but has never really delved too much into is that Decim is arrogant to a degree. Decim mentions in the rant at the end that he understands human emotion but he really doesn't and views them in this condescending manner all the while patting himself on the back. In this scene he has back to her and the camera also focuses on the space between the two which can be taken as a viewpoint of their different stances and the distance emotionally between the two. This is something repeated throughout the episode with Decim almost always having his back to Onna until Onna goes on her rant and forces Decim to look at her. In a very obvious way, Onna represents the human side he's deliberately ignored in order to be his version of an ideal arbiter. This focus on spacing and angles are present in both Shimada and Tatsumi's flashbacks.
In the first flashback,Shimada is standing on the outside and in light but quickly lunges at the rapist and jumps into darkness literally. Even after he jumps into the apartment, the camera jumps back to the closing door. This locked down shot is done to show not only the speed of the attack in that it's all over before the door closes but also to say that a door has closed on Shimada's life and that he's now forever stuck in the darkness. There's also an establishing shot later of Shimada, dying after killing Tatsumi, which shows all three combatants lying in the dark parts of the room which is the director stating how they were all in the wrong.
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This shot of the 2nd knife is pretty good in that it explains why Shimada missed the knife when he's attacking. It also works as a good establishing shot as it represents how messy the rapist's apartment is and works as a replacement for a fridge shot.
Inside the apartment, the camera doesn't directly follow Shimada and the rapist compared to outside. It instead focuses on the TV screen which reflects the struggle and uses a psuedo-handcamera effect. This frames the fight in a chaotic manner in that the audience doesn't really have a clear picture as to what's happening. The handcamera effect was for emphasizing Shimada's emotions, something that the show repeats multiple times later on such as when he rushes at Tatsumi. Tatsumi's shots through the episode though are all steady which conveys his control not only over his own emotions but also Shimada. The apartment scenes also use a lot of close up angles to show Shimada's emotions.
I liked this shot because it's not only misleading but quickly adds to Tatsumi's characterization. It's over Tatsumi's shoulder and so works as a POV shot for him. Here he has a murderer holding a murder weapon and confessing. What a normal detective would do at this point would be to arrest Shimada. Instead Shimada gets on his knees and is literally on the same level as Shimada. He's doing the opposite of what his implied background would dictate.
He puts his hand on Shimada and physically connects the two. The two are literally linked in their grief. The director also quickly switches camera angles behind each of them to show that Shimada and Tatsumi understand each other. This stands in contrast later when Tatsumi remembers his past and starts to drag Shimada down with him.
Here it's essentially the same scene but look at how the camera emphasizes Tatsumi digging into Shimada's shoulder. It shows Tatsumi's dominance over Shimada at this point. The director then has Tatsumi lean into the camera which not only adds to the ominous quality of the scene but again reinforces Tatsumi's control. This is also one of the many times in the episode where the eyes show what each character is thinking. Shimada is looking down and bending to Tatsumi's will. Tatsumi's flashbacks also are very well directed in regards to eye tracking.
What's interesting in Tatsumi's flashback to killing his wife's murderer, we're never shown the face of the killer. Instead it focuses on a taped picture on the wall. That's because who the killer is, is not important. What is important is Tatsumi's process and obsession, his own damaged viewpoint. The person doesn't matter but rather that Tatsumi feels justified in killing, as a way of feeding his own ego.
The rape as a whole was superbly handled. The director uses a warped camera lens to not only show how the sister's perception of the events was twisted but also how physically disoriented she is. She mistakenly thought Tatsumi was involved and hated him as well, leading to the series of events in the apartment. There's also good character facial work to detail the emotions in the scene even when the audience can't tell what's exactly happening. The third camera shot in particular is great because it not only visually shows the sister's emotional state, in that she's physically on the bottom, but also reminds the viewer of the danger she's in with the tip of the knife even if we can't see her being raped. Another note is that Shimada's sister is staring in the same direction that Tatsumi was, even when she's talking with Shimada. She's thinking back on the attack, in the hospital, and of Tatsumi. There's also the aspect that she's not facing Shimada and is ashamed/embarrassed as to what happened. She along with Tatsumi, both individuals who want vengeance, push Shimada literally into the abyss.
In addition the director obscures characters' eyes to withhold what that character is thinking. In the above scene, the audience is never shown Tatsumi's eyes until he faces Shimada. The audience doesn't know if Tatsumi is mad and what he might do. It's already clear to the audience that Shimada killed Tatsumi however Shimada doesn't know that and the camera work again represents Shimada's knowledge. Much of this episode is framed from Shimada's perspective, as made clear by the ED's focus on him, and his struggle and failure to ultimately move on.
Hiding the eyes is also done in Decim's case multiple times such as when Onna is telling Decim to stop. At first I thought this was showing Decim as coldhearted but rewatching the episode I think it's to hide Decim's insecurity about his job.
In Onna's rant, Decim's hands are shaking but you still don't see his eyes. In all the previous episodes, his eyes were always cold and impassionate however here now that he's starting to doubt himself, the show pointedly obscures his eyes in a number of shots. On a final note, I thought these two shots were truly exceptional:
The first one does a great job of not only conveying Shimada and Tatsumi's relationship but also Tatsumi shutting down his emotions and not caring. I also viewed it as showing how Tatsumi's true addiction wasn't smoking but rather killing. Then there's the shot with Shimada staring at the knife. It just so strongly shows Shimada's desire to kill Tatsumi again.
 

Aureon

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Great episode visually, but i really, really didn't like the "And today, we have completely insane people on the show!"

Anyway, on topic of show discussion, episodes 8 and 9 were great. Fantastic voice acting all around, and I'm not sure if
we're supposed to interpret the single void mask as meaning they BOTH got voided, if only one of them did but we're not told who, or if it was just thematic
.

HOW could they both not be voided? It was one of the clearest cuts ever on the show. Detective was... Inexcusable, and young guy failed the 'test' ginko was putting him on, even with the girl trying to intercede.
 

Lautaro

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Great episode visually, but i really, really didn't like the "And today, we have completely insane people on the show!"

Why not? these guys were supposed to be sent to a "special arbiter" but Nona intervened, it follows the theme of Nona trying to test Decim.
 

Aureon

Please do not let me serve on a jury. I am actually a crazy person.
Why not? these guys were supposed to be sent to a "special arbiter" but Nona intervened, it follows the theme of Nona trying to test Decim.

I may have forgotten that scene, whops.

Still, it's the first pair of characters that i found completely impossible to relate to, at least in the second part.

Especially, the detective's motivation not to stop the rape-guy with, literally, his pants down is ridiculous. "Revenge needs a victim" - He already had a victim. He could've killed the guy right there, and would've been lauded for it. Made completely no sense outside the pathological mentality of "Gotta sacrifice something".

It's also hype backlash, because i really, really liked part 1, and called all the twists (They're both murderers, and young guy killed old guy) after part 1 ended.
 

Lautaro

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I may have forgotten that scene, whops.

Still, it's the first pair of characters that i found completely impossible to relate to, at least in the second part.

Especially, the detective's motivation not to stop the rape-guy with, literally, his pants down is ridiculous. "Revenge needs a victim" - He already had a victim. He could've killed the guy right there, and would've been lauded for it. Made completely no sense outside the pathological mentality of "Gotta sacrifice something".

It's also hype backlash, because i really, really liked part 1, and called all the twists (They're both murderers, and young guy killed old guy) after part 1 ended.

They are supposed to be relatable to Decim not the viewer because the detective is basically doing the same that Arbiters do, pushing a person to the limit so it "reveals it's darkside". Like I imagined at the beginning of the series they are showing how ridiculous is the concept of judging a human soul.
 

Jex

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Good post Jarmel, it's worth pointing out that episode 9 was storyboarded by a pretty great action director who most people would probably know through his work on Kill la Kill episode 5 which he directed and storyboarded.
 

Aureon

Please do not let me serve on a jury. I am actually a crazy person.
They are supposed to be relatable to Decim not the viewer because the detective is basically doing the same that Arbiters do, pushing a person to the limit so it "reveals it's darkside". Like I imagined at the beginning of the series they are showing how ridiculous is the concept of judging a human soul.

Mh, you're probably right.
I'll queue a rewatch.
 

striferser

Huge Nickleback Fan
@Jarmel
great post!

Episode 9
This episode just reach another level of awesomeness
Its intense, the plot twist work well, and that final scene.
Shit just got real.
 
Was the old lady the wife of the old man from Death Billiards? That connection along with the previous visitors being on the cards makes me wonder. I assume it was to stir up the girl's memory and not for the old lady.

As I thought, the old man who plays pool is dangerous as hell.

Uh oh. Why is the next episode called Memento Mori? I assume the girl will die and Decim will shed one tear or something
 
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