Death Parade |OT| Please watch, with your life at stake.

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jimwhat

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Similar to this? No. But there are shows that aren't 'moe and shit' every season, you just gotta find them.

Sorry, that's I meant. Shows that have a more serious tone. I haven't had too much time to "screen" the anime for this season.

Parasyte, LH and Tokyo Ghoul are keeping me going for now.
 
Sorry, that's I meant. Shows that have a more serious tone. I haven't had too much time to "screen" the anime for this season.

Parasyte, LH and Tokyo Ghoul are keeping me going for now.

There are those shows you mentioned, plus there's also Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. Give Ronja a try if you can, it's a CG anime from studio ghibli and it's very well done.
 
Goddammit , this episode 4 .. something got me when both of them realised the truth.

Damn , the meaning of each special skill.

Death Parade, already in my AOTY list for next year
 

Mailbox

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Man I'm loving this series. Not only because it's a very interesting take on looking at death and the psychology of everyone's regret, but also on the smaller instances of knowing how hard it is on the main characters to do this time and time again.

The only weak point of the most recent episode is probably that the guy seemed a bit shoehorned. It was very much the other lady's episode, but it's a minor gripe, and didn't make the episode bad by any means.

I am still very weary about this series, though. Ever since death billiards, I've been worried that this series would become repetitive. It hasn't yet, but it rides a slippery slope here.

Hopefully it overcomes it, and continues to be the best show of the season.

(Also: did anyone else notice the ps4 controller during one of the scenes?)
 

Saprol

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The only weak point of the most recent episode is probably that the guy seemed a bit shoehorned. It was very much the other lady's episode, but it's a minor gripe, and didn't make the episode bad by any means.
Seems the 30-min television format is really cutting into their ability to cover both of the characters' backgrounds.
 

Mailbox

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Seems the 30-min television format is really cutting into their ability to cover both of the characters' backgrounds.

Idk about that. The guy just did have an interesting background, so they wanted to focus on the more interesting tragic figure. The other episodes had no problems with showing the character's lives.
 

LordCanti

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1-4

I really liked Death Billiards so I've been looking forward to seeing this show. So far they've managed to keep things fresh week to week, so hopefully they can continue that streak. Personally I'm hopeful for more episodes about the Arbiters themselves (maybe an episode or two where there are no judgement to be made).
 
I don't get this last episode. Seems the lady was judged harshly IMO

it's the actions during the game that matters , not what happenned before.
Faced with the same handicap , the guy didn't panic , when the lady smashed the guy face on the monitor.

At least that's how i see it.
 
it's the actions during the game that matters , not what happenned before.
Faced with the same handicap , the guy didn't panic , when the lady smashed the guy face on the monitor.

At least that's how i see it.
Yes the game isn't entirely fair but I guess meant to show the true nature of people. The morality is all over the place though didn't the husband in the first episode go to heaven?
 

Raxus

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Yes the game isn't entirely fair but I guess meant to show the true nature of people. The morality is all over the place though didn't the husband in the first episode go to heaven?

We are led to believe that arbiters aren't perfect and the first episode is a strong indicator they can make mistakes especially after the conclusion of episode 2.
 
I don't get this last episode. Seems the lady was judged harshly IMO

Yes she had a harsh life... which was provoked by her own personality and way of life.
She loved her kids, but that isn't saying a lot, anyone can be a criminal and still love their children.
She was manipulative (they way she acted at the beginning), she treated other people like shit (like her assistant) and she was super violent (smashing his head against the screen!).

I mean, it isn't like she was Hitler, or a serial rapist killer, but she wasn't exactly a good person.
 

duckroll

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Episode 1-4

Oh man, I'm sooooo glad this actually got made. After Death Billiards, I was sure that the concept could carry an episodic series with different stories and dynamics for each "game" session. This is pretty much exactly what I envisioned. In the first four episodes, Tachikawa has already shown that he can come up with different stories about the human condition and how people react to uncomfortable truths and reflection on their own faults. Different relationships and pairings, different outcomes, all the while reminding us how life can end at any time by any means.

The one thing I kinda dislike so far was how they spent the entire second episode as a sort of intermission to "explain" stuff while introducing the assistant. It felt like it dragged on, and while it did bring new context to the underlying setting, I think it could have been executed just as well if she was introduced into a new "game" instead. I kinda feel like they robbed us of an extra story just to dumb things down a bit. But it looks like that was a one off for now, and they're going to keep it rolling without over-explaining each outcome. I like it being more open ended where the viewer can consider the evidence and interpret/discuss the judgement on our own.
 

Beefeater

Banned
One thing I don't get is the purpose behind the arbiters. What function do they really serve? I mean, why send the "good" souls back to life, how do the bartenders benefit from that? It has strange implications about the real world as well.

In Death Billiards, this question wasn't even on the table because we assumed the judgement was infallible. Instead it made us ask ourselves who went where, and turned out to be a Rorschach test for the viewer. I'm not sure I like the changes they made, though I guess they could win me over if the writing is up to the task. It's just not what I was hoping for, and I'm seeing cracks in the premise already.
 

FluxWaveZ

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Episode 5

Yeah, that was certainly a nice change of pace compared to previous episodes, since the focus of the episode wasn't on a game. The picture book/memory motif that's been introduced through this episode is giving me Monster vibes. It's nice to finally get an explanation concerning the woman assistant's backstory; that'll probably be a big deal in the story moving forward.

The related political stuff between arbiters is interesting; I want to know what the old man's deal is. It'd be neat to maybe see a game that's judged by someone other than Decim, and see how their methods differ compared to his.
 

Lautaro

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Getting interesting, the revelation about the assistant and I really wasn't expecting
a superpowers fight
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Episode 2

Ok so if the arbiters have all the memories of the people, how did he not understand that she wasn't having a continuous affair but cheated once and regretted it?

Also what happens to the baby???
 

FluxWaveZ

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Episode 2

Ok so if the arbiters have all the memories of the people, how did he not understand that she wasn't having a continuous affair but cheated once and regretted it?

She had an affair? Haven't rewatched the episode, but I thought the whole reveal was that she ended up lying about her actual feelings, in the end, so that her husband wouldn't feel regretful about how he acted before their death.
 
She had an affair? Haven't rewatched the episode, but I thought the whole reveal was that she ended up lying about her actual feelings, in the end, so that her husband wouldn't feel regretful about how he acted before their death.

It's explicitly shown and stated. She cheated once, and regretted it. It was a one time thing. The baby was the husband's though.
 

FluxWaveZ

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It's explicitly shown and stated. She cheated once, and regretted it. It was a one time thing. The baby was the husband's though.

Huh, guess I either missed that or forgot. Either way, in the end, wasn't Decim's decision just because he was clueless about human emotion? What indicated that he did not understand she was having a continuous affair?
 
Huh, guess I either missed that or forgot. Either way, in the end, wasn't Decim's decision just because he was clueless about human emotion? What indicated that he did not understand she was having a continuous affair?

That he sent her to the void, even though in the end she was a good person. She made a single mistake, and says "I fucked up" after no-name explains to him that the woman was lying about never loving him and the baby's father in order to spare him the guilt.
 
it's the actions during the game that matters , not what happenned before.
Faced with the same handicap , the guy didn't panic , when the lady smashed the guy face on the monitor.

At least that's how i see it.

That's not particularly fair since his cap popped off during the game he was intending to lose. Her cap popped off in the game both of them thought would lead to the other one's death. Why would anyone ever freak out about their controller breaking during a match they weren't trying to actually win? That's not a test.
 

LordCanti

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05

I wonder if, to stave off boredom, Nona
created the assistant and gave her memories from her favorite book. That'd certainly explain why she retained her memories when no one else seemingly ever has. Decim didn't know the man was a puppet, so it's not as if he'd know she was either. Then again, maybe Nona is trying to create extreme conditions the hard way since she wouldn't play a game. I'd think having memories play in a dream and then seeing hints about them around Quindecim would slowly raise her stress levels.

I'm excited to see an arbitration done by someone that isn't Decim. I'm also looking forward to learning more about Oculus.
 
Death Parade 5

Easily the strongest episode of the series so far. They should just not focus on the games themselves and entirely rely on exploring the characters. Seems like Decim has a soft spot and a lot of appreciation for the dark hair woman, Nona seems to have a soft spot for Decim (seems like she hired him and has high hopes for him), and the red haired bartender is basically the idiot rival.

Next episode we're getting a look at how he runs his game. There's only one character we haven't been introduced to yet, which is the smiling boy that we see in the OP. Hopefully we meet him soon so we can move on and start expanding all of their characters. This show has been a nice little delight this season. Not the strongest writing but I appreciate at least the effort they're putting into not regurgitating another run of the mill anime.
 

DominoKid

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This week's ep was great. They're getting a lot more mileage out of this setup that I would've expected. I was wondering how make this out to 13 eps.

Last week's judgment seemed pretty harsh on the woman though.
 
That's not particularly fair since his cap popped off during the game he was intending to lose. Her cap popped off in the game both of them thought would lead to the other one's death. Why would anyone ever freak out about their controller breaking during a match they weren't trying to actually win? That's not a test.

He was clearly motivated to win at the time even if he didn't realise it. And besides decim intentions were clear even if it wasn't fair. IMO it was established that decim can make mistakes and is undecided on many situations..


Episode 5

It must be praised on the bold choices it did.
So many question were answered casually .. and the relationchart defintly changed..

Arbitrers can become managers , another confirmation if there was a need to that there are more bartenders if differents rules and different tactics. The fact that god is dead ( probably a plot point ) , that the old guy is "the one closest to god " , the fcta that there are too many deaths and it causes problems ...( not sure how i should interpret that red liquid filling those glasses)

Man so many clues , i'm looking forward on where they go from here

PS: that billard table was the shit, i want one like that !
 

duckroll

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Episode 5

I'm not really a fan of the "mythos" episodes of the series so far. While this wasn't anywhere as padded as episode 2, I still feel it's sort of a waste. What I liked about Death Billiards and what I want from this show isn't an expansion on the system, the mythology, or the "story characters", but rather more episodic short stories of people coming to terms with their lives and deaths, and different studies of the human condition. There wasn't really much of that here, and I really don't find all the hints they're dropping about the characters and the nature of their job and relationships interesting at all. The fight had cool animation though. That's about it.
 

Kyuur

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Death Parade 5

Easily the strongest episode of the series so far. They should just not focus on the games themselves and entirely rely on exploring the characters. Seems like Decim has a soft spot and a lot of appreciation for the dark hair woman, Nona seems to have a soft spot for Decim (seems like she hired him and has high hopes for him), and the red haired bartender is basically the idiot rival.

Next episode we're getting a look at how he runs his game. There's only one character we haven't been introduced to yet, which is the smiling boy that we see in the OP. Hopefully we meet him soon so we can move on and start expanding all of their characters. This show has been a nice little delight this season. Not the strongest writing but I appreciate at least the effort they're putting into not regurgitating another run of the mill anime.

Episode 5

I'm not really a fan of the "mythos" episodes of the series so far. While this wasn't anywhere as padded as episode 2, I still feel it's sort of a waste. What I liked about Death Billiards and what I want from this show isn't an expansion on the system, the mythology, or the "story characters", but rather more episodic short stories of people coming to terms with their lives and deaths, and different studies of the human condition. There wasn't really much of that here, and I really don't find all the hints they're dropping about the characters and the nature of their job and relationships interesting at all. The fight had cool animation though. That's about it.

-insert neogaf joke-

I think a blend is good. I also have to say that Ginti's VA put in some work when he got subdued. Perfect demasulated 'scream'.
 

Yomidi

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Episode 5

I liked this episode. The fight scene was pretty cool and I'm looking forward to see where all this goes
 
Some pretty awesome comedy this week ...

Damn both characters Need reincarnation ... They DESERVE IT !

I kinda expected the girl to be more important since she was in the opening animation .... i wonder how this will turn out.
 
Some pretty awesome comedy this week ...

Damn both characters Need reincarnation ... They DESERVE IT !

I disagree. The dude was going to push her. Thats void material. He shouldn't get reincarnated just because some unhealthily obsessed fan interrupted him a second before he was going to do it.
 
I disagree. The dude was going to push her. Thats void material. He shouldn't get reincarnated just because some unhealthily obsessed fan interrupted him a second before he was going to do it.

I guess it depends on the arbiter , but i think the matter is that he didn't push her, i mean the whole set-up was meant for people to see whenever they do it , since you're forced to consider it given the circumstances.
And he did try to save her. ( now that's an action that should count )

Considering what i know and how i've understood this , They do try to push everyone over the edge to see their darkness, but from decim side it's each actions that matter, not the fact that they're considering something because they were lead to believe something wrong.

Now each arbiter clearly have different way to do things ..but that's how i see it.
 

Orin GA

I wish I could hat you to death
Wait...so is the girl gonna be a regular or is that it? Shes not doing the pose at thee very beginning of the OP, so it may be the latter.
 
Wait...so is the girl gonna be a regular or is that it? Shes not doing the pose at thee very beginning of the OP, so it may be the latter.

there's no reason to keep them around.
They solved their issue and both would get reincarnation. Black haired lady is the only human to stay and largely because Decim didn't know what to do with her since she knew she was dead from the beginning

I wasn't crazy about the episode but it wasn't bad. I just don't care too much about the day to day events, I'd rather learn more about the universe and characters.
 
there's no reason to keep them around.
They solved their issue and both would get reincarnation. Black haired lady is the only human to stay and largely because Decim didn't know what to do with her since she knew she was dead from the beginning

I wasn't crazy about the episode but it wasn't bad. I just don't care too much about the day to day events, I'd rather learn more about the universe and characters.

I have been thinking. So far everyone comes in pairs. Everyone. So how did no-name manage to avoid playing? Her partner also refused to ever press the button? What happened to her partner?
 
I have been thinking. So far everyone comes in pairs. Everyone. So how did no-name manage to avoid playing? Her partner also refused to ever press the button? What happened to her partner?

it might have been a situation where she knew what happened and the other player didn't, so with the information available to them from their past Decim did an exception and judged the partner without doing the game and asked for special permission to keep her around.
 

Beefeater

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"Day-to-day events" is a weird way to think of the death games. It's not like the arbiters are the main characters of those episodes.
 

Plywood

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there's no reason to keep them around.

I wasn't crazy about the episode but it wasn't bad. I just don't care too much about the day to day events, I'd rather learn more about the universe and characters.
Well they stuck in her the OP and she seems to be paired to Ginti as a result of, why I have no idea.
 
The official music video for the opening song is so horrible I don't even know where to begin. The full version of the song itself kinda ruins it too.

Kudos to whoever edited it down into such a great OP for the show so I never have to watch that video again.
 

Mailbox

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The official music video for the opening song is so horrible I don't even know where to begin. The full version of the song itself kinda ruins it too.

Kudos to whoever edited down into such a great OP for the show so I never have to watch that video again.

I... WOW....

I didn't expect that at all. That music video is... SO BAD. Just... how...
And the parts of the song that were edited out are also just... jeez...


Holy shit. A+ to the editor that could turn it into a great OP track for this anime.
Just wow.


Anywho, I actually love how the op juxtaposed the initial episodes. Honestly, it felt like a proper way to juxtapose seriousness and death with a lil pizzazz and fun times. It never felt wrong to me.

That being said I actually think that last week's episode was nessisary as well as the story episodes. This isn't something like mushishi that can stay fresh for a boatload of episodes while being purely episodic. It would get boring after 3-4 episodes of the same premise over and over again, so the creators add in "world building" and (in last week's example) a comedy episode. I don't expect this funny stuff to take place at Quinndecim, so i wouldn't worry about that. I will be honest though, while i think the OP blends well with the serious episodes in a juxtaposed manner, I don't think the switches in focus per episode work as well as they could (aside from episode 2, which i think did a very good job at giving the same content but from a different perspective and showing a bit more about how things are thought out with the arbiters and such) it could have been a bit smoother of a transition (though this being a single 12 episode thing doesn't help). Its still a very good anime (one of the only where I get excited every week for), but it does have flaws, much like any anime does.

Though I will say, Death Billiards NEEDS to be watched before this series. I don't think I would have liked this series as much without it.

I can name you problems with pretty much any anime that people call amazing or fantastic (even stuff like FMA bro and Steins;gate. Hell even Cowboy Bebop), but I can at least differentiate when I notice a flaw or a critique as a opposed to say an anime that is downright bad.
That applies to most media I see actually. I wonder why more people can't.

I'm stoked for tonight's episode.

Also: I have noticed from multiple anime and other threads that I really tend to disagree with Duckroll on a lot of stuff. Personally, I find that interesting.
 

FluxWaveZ

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I hadn't paid close attention to the OP until now, but that girl from the last episode is totally part of the Quindecim crew in it. I totally expect her to actually be a returning character there, now.

It's a good OP, too. Strangely enough, it had actually put me off, somewhat, when I watched the first episode because it had completely clashed with my expectations of it, going in. I feel that it's appropriate, now.
 

Orin GA

I wish I could hat you to death
The official music video for the opening song is so horrible I don't even know where to begin. The full version of the song itself kinda ruins it too.

Kudos to whoever edited it down into such a great OP for the show so I never have to watch that video again.

Dear Sweet God no.....

Oh, and guess whos back ....
or never left!
 

Chariot

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Death Corporate 7

I love where this is going. The system is even more flawed than expected. I am wondering how Nona's idea will end up and if it will lead to reforms. Quin was also surprisingly amazing. It's funny how the supposedly only Arbiter with emotions is the least expressive.
 
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