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My doctor has started me on Zoloft. The nausea side effect kicks in pretty quickly, around four hours after taking it. It wasn't severe enough that I felt like I was going to be sick, but at one point I was having to take deep breaths.

Not really sure if I want to be on these, but I've been struggling with mental health for so long now that it's worth a shot. We'll see how it goes.
 
My doctor has started me on Zoloft. The nausea side effect kicks in pretty quickly, around four hours after taking it. It wasn't severe enough that I felt like I was going to be sick, but at one point I was having to take deep breaths.

Not really sure if I want to be on these, but I've been struggling with mental health for so long now that it's worth a shot. We'll see how it goes.

Tell your doc about the side effects you are experiencing and maybe they can figure a solution. Try to stay positive! You are being strong for trying to help yourself
 
Have any of you guys on anti-depressants been checked for low testosterone?

I was just listening to an interesting podcast with a Dr. Mark Gordon about testosterone and hormone deficiencies and their many effects, which include a great deal of mental health issues, including depression. It sounds like a lot of the people he has worked with have benefited greatly from having relatively small testosterone supplementation (not in the crazy doses you see people getting from specialized testosterone clinics).

Anyway, it might be worth listening to/looking into!

http://body.io/body-io-fm-51-dr-mark-gordon-testosterone/
 
Melatonin supplements aren't exactly regulated so it's usefulness might be iffy and maybe more of a placebo effect. I suggest just doing sleep hygiene:
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I needed this advice like a month ago. My sleep schedule has gone to shit, I've been having consistent headaches for the last week, and my eating habits have seriously deteriorated.

This extremely hot and dry winter (it's 91 degrees outside right now in MARCH) really doesn't help either.
 
THE SHAM OF PSYCHIATRY

Hi, my name is Ricky Sandhu and want to express the stat of psychiatry and the sham it is really is. Im going to begin with a overview of psychiatry, it all began by torturous methods including, putting a person who was instable and putting their face in ice cold water, after that we “great” thinkers like Freud talking about nonsense and generalizing millions of people into different theories. After that psychiatry felt it was best to lobotomize a person and taking a away a part of their mind. Now the next evolution is scare and make patients fearful by using different technological advances like changing how someone behaves using neurological equipment in the brain. Changing how someone behave like making them fearful or scared or happy. Aswell as injecting them with different medications. The problem that psychiatry faces is that it doesn’t work and never will. I say to the people reading this is that a depressed person will always be depressed and a violent person will always be violent. Nomatter how much therapy they receive or drugs they take, its wont help them. The mind is a complex and psychiatry nor psychology will help these individuals with their suffering. A few years ago I go myself into a depressed state but quickly recovered because I was in my early twenties and was depressed about school. I now have a bachelor of science at UBC. In the time when I went into the psychiatry ward which I will not tell you about the circumstances, I was shocked how badly psychiatry is in a state. I took medications and they do not work, only to have negative side effects that outweigh the positive. Now my time in Edmonton and Vancouver dealing with psychiatrists, case managers, and psychiatry nurses has been overwhelmingly negative. We have 5 or 6 psychiatry nurses at one ward dealing with 4 or 5 patients. Most of whom I had the pleasure talking to and enjoying being with. However the psychiatry nurses talked about personal stuff all day long, and laughing with their coworkers and talking about other patients. Mostly in a negative way. In my time being there they did not care to start a conversation with any of the patients but rather sitting in their office and chatting amongst each other. This isn’t a healthy environment for these patients and get treated like second rate patients. They don’t get the same quality treatment as patients who are in physical pain. Theyeither overdose the patients or underdose them. Now with these psychiatry patients, this is a waste of money and resources that could fund genetic research and help with mental and physical problems. I believe genetics is the best course of evolution, and help burden the suffering and pain of these patients who have psychological symptoms. The psychiatry nurses don’t care about these patient but rather feel like they have a power trip amongst the patients they feel above them. I say to you psychiatry is a complete sham and waste of resources. Now onto the psychiatriests, these to me are second rate doctors, who talk for only 5 minutes and prescribe medication that dont work. I have mentioned before that anti depressants, benzodiazepines like Ativan, and antipsychotics do not work in any way other than to numb the patient and control them. The mental health system in Canada and around world is broken and is not working in any way.
 
I have been depressed for as long as I remember. I frequent /r/nootropics and there was a seeming unanimous recommendation of a substance called Tianeptine, which can be bought from several internet vendors. It is not an SSRI, many people have actually found it to be more effective than SSRI's and the cool thing about TIaneptine is that you can feel it's effects immediately, you dont have to wait two weeks. For anybody struggling with depression, I highly recommend you try this wondrous substance, it has done quite a bit for me and I've only been taking it for a week.
 
THE SHAM OF PSYCHIATRY

Hi, my name is Ricky Sandhu and want to express the stat of psychiatry and the sham it is really is. Im going to begin with a overview of psychiatry, it all began by torturous methods including, putting a person who was instable and putting their face in ice cold water, after that we “great” thinkers like Freud talking about nonsense and generalizing millions of people into different theories. After that psychiatry felt it was best to lobotomize a person and taking a away a part of their mind. Now the next evolution is scare and make patients fearful by using different technological advances like changing how someone behaves using neurological equipment in the brain. Changing how someone behave like making them fearful or scared or happy. Aswell as injecting them with different medications. The problem that psychiatry faces is that it doesn’t work and never will. I say to the people reading this is that a depressed person will always be depressed and a violent person will always be violent. Nomatter how much therapy they receive or drugs they take, its wont help them. The mind is a complex and psychiatry nor psychology will help these individuals with their suffering. A few years ago I go myself into a depressed state but quickly recovered because I was in my early twenties and was depressed about school. I now have a bachelor of science at UBC. In the time when I went into the psychiatry ward which I will not tell you about the circumstances, I was shocked how badly psychiatry is in a state. I took medications and they do not work, only to have negative side effects that outweigh the positive. Now my time in Edmonton and Vancouver dealing with psychiatrists, case managers, and psychiatry nurses has been overwhelmingly negative. We have 5 or 6 psychiatry nurses at one ward dealing with 4 or 5 patients. Most of whom I had the pleasure talking to and enjoying being with. However the psychiatry nurses talked about personal stuff all day long, and laughing with their coworkers and talking about other patients. Mostly in a negative way. In my time being there they did not care to start a conversation with any of the patients but rather sitting in their office and chatting amongst each other. This isn’t a healthy environment for these patients and get treated like second rate patients. They don’t get the same quality treatment as patients who are in physical pain. Theyeither overdose the patients or underdose them. Now with these psychiatry patients, this is a waste of money and resources that could fund genetic research and help with mental and physical problems. I believe genetics is the best course of evolution, and help burden the suffering and pain of these patients who have psychological symptoms. The psychiatry nurses don’t care about these patient but rather feel like they have a power trip amongst the patients they feel above them. I say to you psychiatry is a complete sham and waste of resources. Now onto the psychiatriests, these to me are second rate doctors, who talk for only 5 minutes and prescribe medication that dont work. I have mentioned before that anti depressants, benzodiazepines like Ativan, and antipsychotics do not work in any way other than to numb the patient and control them. The mental health system in Canada and around world is broken and is not working in any way.


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I have been depressed for as long as I remember. I frequent /r/nootropics and there was a seeming unanimous recommendation of a substance called Tianeptine, which can be bought from several internet vendors. It is not an SSRI, many people have actually found it to be more effective than SSRI's and the cool thing about TIaneptine is that you can feel it's effects immediately, you dont have to wait two weeks. For anybody struggling with depression, I highly recommend you try this wondrous substance, it has done quite a bit for me and I've only been taking it for a week.

Talk to a freaking doctor and not the internet for fuck's sake.

I can't stop grinding my fucking teeth. Anyone have advice for this?

a mouthguard?
 
Talk to a freaking doctor and not the internet for fuck's sake.



a mouthguard?

Ah I don't know, I have a habit of chewing things, the mouthguard would very soon become chewed up plastic. Hoping to find a way to cope without putting something in me.
 
I truly believe genetics is the next step forwards, screw psychiatry, and for those suffering stay positive dont take these so called medications

What? Joking yes? I will listen to my doctor and you should be telling people to do the same

See a dentist, then.

Got an appointment in 2 months, will remember to ask about this.
 
Talking to a doctor for five minutes, and most of these medications dont work, its a complete sham, when someone is depressed do you think these medications work or talking to someone your depression is just gone, its ludricous, genetics will fix a lot of these psycholgical and physical problems, not therapist.
 
Talking to a doctor for five minutes, and most of these medications dont work, its a complete sham, when someone is depressed do you think these medications work or talking to someone your depression is just gone, its ludricous, genetics will fix a lot of these psycholgical and physical problems, not therapist.
I don't know if you are serious or trolling, but you are obviously ill informed.
 
What people need to realize is they need to eat healthy, exercise, talk to people, not some second rate doctor who prescribes bullshit medication that doesnt work, we live in an era where everyone expects too much from people. maybe go to africa and help people there.
 
Ive taken medications and they dont work, you need to stay healthy, 50 years ago how many depressed people were there, we live in atime where everything is screwed up. Ive talk to psychiatrists and they dont give a shit
 
Oh god, Ive had depression before, and talking to people doesnt work, its backwards thing, they dont care. Medication doesnt work, you need to get out of the house and do stuff.
 
Oh god, Ive had depression before, and talking to people doesnt work, its backwards thing, they dont care. Medication doesnt work, you need to get out of the house and do stuff.

All the stuff you are saying is dangerous at best, you should really shut up. Thanks.
 
Im not saying psychiatry is bad, but i talked to a lot people, and its just nonsense, work eat healthy, go out do stuff, we live in a time that everyone expects too much, ive had depression and anxiety, and the best thing is keep positive.
 
You know what, im done people can read my mind, for the last 8 years, yes they can, i got into accidents and psycxhiatry has never helped i wanted to commit suicide but i didnt so there, fuck this
 
Im not saying psychiatry is bad, but i talked to a lot people, and its just nonsense, work eat healthy, go out do stuff, we live in a time that everyone expects too much, ive had depression and anxiety, and the best thing is keep positive.
I found it to be the other way around; once you get professional help, it becomes much easier to "keep positive" and maintain healthy habits. Otherwise, I just go through waves where things get worse to the point where I "reboot" and can maintain myself for a while, but it's not sustainable.

EDIT: I must have missed the post of yours that made a brilliant case for the importance of psychiatry.
 
I tell them about the mind reading, and all they care is nothing they keep sending me to different psychiatrists, and different people and im sick of it, you know the amount of pain ive through, people looking at me strangily, its getting to the point that i have nothing left to for, thats i hate this all of it. I want people to feel better, and people harrassingme for no reason, YOu have no idea what ive went through
 
You're right. We don't know what you've been through. I'm sorry that things have been so hard. Wanting help and feeling like you're not getting any is very frustrating.
 
I got into an accident and some girl thought i was sexually harrasing, her they thought i was dangerous, so people actually know what im thinking, because im a so called dangerous person, the technology avaible today is extroadinary, come to vancouver, bc and find out for yourself, i live in surrey, bc
 
I got into an accident and some girl thought i was sexually harrasing, her they thought i was dangerous, so people actually know what im thinking, because im a so called dangerous person, the technology avaible today is extroadinary, come to vancouver, bc and find out for yourself, i live in surrey, bc

You've been pushed over the edge by a stressful life event. Your brain has went into hyper-anxiety mode, which makes you get caught up in whatever set you off into being bothered by this. If you're this amped up, going to a psychiatrist for medication to bring you back down to a functional, healthy level of thinking is kind of necessary for your own health and of those close to you. Do it for yourself, please. You deserve it. Things will get better with time and following a doctor's advice on anything that will help it along, even if that means medication sometimes.
 
Im taking fluanxol injections, but the side effects are killing me, i dont know what to do anymore, its ruining my life, and psychiatrists have been total dicks to me
 
THE SHAM OF PSYCHIATRY

Hi, my name is Ricky Sandhu and want to express the stat of psychiatry and the sham it is really is. Im going to begin with a overview of psychiatry, it all began by torturous methods including, putting a person who was instable and putting their face in ice cold water, after that we “great” thinkers like Freud talking about nonsense and generalizing millions of people into different theories. After that psychiatry felt it was best to lobotomize a person and taking a away a part of their mind. Now the next evolution is scare and make patients fearful by using different technological advances like changing how someone behaves using neurological equipment in the brain. Changing how someone behave like making them fearful or scared or happy. Aswell as injecting them with different medications. The problem that psychiatry faces is that it doesn’t work and never will. I say to the people reading this is that a depressed person will always be depressed and a violent person will always be violent. Nomatter how much therapy they receive or drugs they take, its wont help them. The mind is a complex and psychiatry nor psychology will help these individuals with their suffering. A few years ago I go myself into a depressed state but quickly recovered because I was in my early twenties and was depressed about school. I now have a bachelor of science at UBC. In the time when I went into the psychiatry ward which I will not tell you about the circumstances, I was shocked how badly psychiatry is in a state. I took medications and they do not work, only to have negative side effects that outweigh the positive. Now my time in Edmonton and Vancouver dealing with psychiatrists, case managers, and psychiatry nurses has been overwhelmingly negative. We have 5 or 6 psychiatry nurses at one ward dealing with 4 or 5 patients. Most of whom I had the pleasure talking to and enjoying being with. However the psychiatry nurses talked about personal stuff all day long, and laughing with their coworkers and talking about other patients. Mostly in a negative way. In my time being there they did not care to start a conversation with any of the patients but rather sitting in their office and chatting amongst each other. This isn’t a healthy environment for these patients and get treated like second rate patients. They don’t get the same quality treatment as patients who are in physical pain. Theyeither overdose the patients or underdose them. Now with these psychiatry patients, this is a waste of money and resources that could fund genetic research and help with mental and physical problems. I believe genetics is the best course of evolution, and help burden the suffering and pain of these patients who have psychological symptoms. The psychiatry nurses don’t care about these patient but rather feel like they have a power trip amongst the patients they feel above them. I say to you psychiatry is a complete sham and waste of resources. Now onto the psychiatriests, these to me are second rate doctors, who talk for only 5 minutes and prescribe medication that dont work. I have mentioned before that anti depressants, benzodiazepines like Ativan, and antipsychotics do not work in any way other than to numb the patient and control them. The mental health system in Canada and around world is broken and is not working in any way.

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I truly believe genetics is the next step forwards, screw psychiatry, and for those suffering stay positive dont take these so called medications

errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Talking to a doctor for five minutes, and most of these medications dont work, its a complete sham, when someone is depressed do you think these medications work or talking to someone your depression is just gone, its ludricous, genetics will fix a lot of these psycholgical and physical problems, not therapist.

errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

What people need to realize is they need to eat healthy, exercise, talk to people, not some second rate doctor who prescribes bullshit medication that doesnt work, we live in an era where everyone expects too much from people. maybe go to africa and help people there.

agreed with the first part, errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr to the second part

Ive taken medications and they dont work, you need to stay healthy, 50 years ago how many depressed people were there, we live in atime where everything is screwed up. Ive talk to psychiatrists and they dont give a shit

errrrrr

Oh god, Ive had depression before, and talking to people doesnt work, its backwards thing, they dont care. Medication doesnt work, you need to get out of the house and do stuff.


errr didn't you just say we HAVE to talk to people

Im not saying psychiatry is bad, but i talked to a lot people, and its just nonsense, work eat healthy, go out do stuff, we live in a time that everyone expects too much, ive had depression and anxiety, and the best thing is keep positive.

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I got into an accident and some girl thought i was sexually harrasing, her they thought i was dangerous, so people actually know what im thinking, because im a so called dangerous person, the technology avaible today is extroadinary, come to vancouver, bc and find out for yourself, i live in surrey, bc

oh lordylord, surrey

what's with Vancouver, I live here too. thankfully not surrey.
 
Technically ilive in delta, i just want to become a doctor, but i have no motivation to do so

You're taking something that's for an illness that's incredibly hard to deal with. You'll have difficult times but your strong for getting treatment, reaching out and reacting to whatever you're in the middle of- but not all reactions are going to help you or others to understand you. It's not uncommon for you to want to lash out at the very things you've been surrounded with, health care wise, when this situation came up and stressed you out. It's hard but try to find things that bring down your anxiety and manage the pervasive, irrational thoughts by finding simple, day-to-day things to do, then go from there. Are you able to take care of yourself every day?

If you're missing out on basic self-care, try making a list of things that are most important for your own care and go from there. Keep seeing your doctor and if basic day-to-day health slips in ways aside from what's currently upsetting you, get on top of it. Possibly ask for something to help with anxiety if that's what your feeling. You seem like you're breaking up in your ability to communicate, and that's why psychiatrists want you to be on medication. I know the side effects are rough, but if it brings you down to a level where you can be better understood, they can better help and treat any problems your having.

Your mind is having a knee-jerk reaction to a stressful life event. You'll feel better if you get into a routine of proven healthy habits instead of ruminating on something stressful.
 
Suppose I should post in here too although not sure what'll come from it.

Been suffering with just loneliness and zero self worth and max self hate for awhile now. Never had a GF or even a date every time I try I get either laughed at or "zoned" and ignored at online dating, dont know what to say or never bother cause I'm not good enough. I'm also usually alone 99% of the time I never really see my fiends they've all moved on with thier lives while I'm still stuck. I've got a bad case of anxiety too and for that I don't drink because it tends to make it worse so people at my job wouldn't ask me to go out either and because I mostly spend time at home I don't have much to talk about either so come across as boring.

I constantly feel like I get ignored because of how useless and pointless I am >< nothing happy or lucky ever seems to happen to me and I just get shit on like someone is watching over me just causing everything to go wrong!

I feel exactly the same I try and smile when im around people but im pretty sure they see right through it im planning on joining an anxiety self help group near me hopefully i can meet people and make freinds with people who understand maybe you can try and find a group near you
 
^That's a really good idea. It's something I tackled not too long ago, big time. I was lucky to have a friend or so who understood, weren't pushy and let me ride it out until I made my way back to functionality. It can't be helped that some people who don't experience these things have issues being compassionate about it, or try to push how they do things on you, thinking it's helping. Don't beat yourself up, test the waters and ignore/mentally dismiss anyone who tries to grief you while you're figuring out ways to deal with things that work for you.
 
I went to a social anxiety group (well actually I think it was referred to as a "social relations" group or something) at my university a few years ago and most of the people there wouldn't shut up, which I found kind of odd. Some seemed kind of socially inept despite being comfortable speaking, so I could understand that, but there were some who seemed really well-adjusted and just chatted away the entire time, which struck me as rather counter-intuitive. I was by far the quietest person there and it did absolutely nothing for me. Just my personal experience. Of course, four different therapists and various medications over the last five years haven't helped me much either so maybe I'm just fucked.
 
I realised recently that I get too attached to people that I trust very well and share my feelings with, since there's nobody else I can talk about them with. It's such a huge problem if they're not around and I start feeling incredibly depressed. I just don't know what to do...because I really don't want to lose these friends and it scares the hell out of me even thinking about it... ._.

I can relate. I've been feeling this way lately with my situation and it's been depressing me. It's very much out of my control and all I can do is just let things take their course. It's scary to have this constant, comforting feeling with a person and then to have it turn into this distant, disconnecting feeling.

I try to remain positive, especially with all the shit I've been through in the past 3 years, but sometimes it's hard. I don't like for people to know that I can break down at any moment, I don't want people to feel sorry or take pity on me.

My current comfort is listening to Sufjan Stevens, as sad and depressing as that sounds.
 
Have any of you guys on anti-depressants been checked for low testosterone?

I was just listening to an interesting podcast with a Dr. Mark Gordon about testosterone and hormone deficiencies and their many effects, which include a great deal of mental health issues, including depression. It sounds like a lot of the people he has worked with have benefited greatly from having relatively small testosterone supplementation (not in the crazy doses you see people getting from specialized testosterone clinics).

Anyway, it might be worth listening to/looking into!

http://body.io/body-io-fm-51-dr-mark-gordon-testosterone/
First of all, he's talking about traumatic brain injuries, not general mental health. All kinds of medical illness or complications have mental health effects. That doesn't mean jumping to conclusions. Is he even an actual MD? He says he works with naturopaths. Why doesn't he published in a peer-reviewed journal?

I needed this advice like a month ago. My sleep schedule has gone to shit, I've been having consistent headaches for the last week, and my eating habits have seriously deteriorated.

This extremely hot and dry winter (it's 91 degrees outside right now in MARCH) really doesn't help either.
You must be in socal, or something like that, right?
 
I don't think Chicago is a good fit for me and I'm contemplating relocating anywhere that would improve my life. Haven't a clue as to where that could be. Anyone else ever do something similar?
 
I don't think Chicago is a good fit for me and I'm contemplating relocating anywhere that would improve my life. Haven't a clue as to where that could be. Anyone else ever do something similar?

My wife and I hated where we used to live. We were busy with school and our careers and our son, etc etc so we honestly didn't even realize how unhappy just our location made us. We moved to Indianapolis several months back when my wife took an incredible new job. It has made a huge difference. We love it here - it's very affordable, the weather beats Minnesota's godawful winters, we're an hour from the beautiful city we grew up in (and where our parents still are), there is a ton to do, there are great opportunities for me, I'm meeting people, our son loves it, it actually feels like an exciting, vibrant place (surprisingly!)...I just had friends in town for a week and they adored it too.

I've found things to like about every place I've lived (even New Haven, CT - a genuine armpit of a city), but living in a place I really, really like has been very helpful in my recovery from depression.
 
First of all, he's talking about traumatic brain injuries, not general mental health. All kinds of medical illness or complications have mental health effects. That doesn't mean jumping to conclusions. Is he even an actual MD? He says he works with naturopaths. Why doesn't he published in a peer-reviewed journal?

Did you listen to the podcast? He has a focus on traumatic brain injuries, but he also talks in more general terms about how hormonal deficiencies can lead to depression and other mental illnesses. He just linked head trauma to hormonal deficiencies in his practice, so that's what he specialized in (working with NFL players and such).

A quick Google search indicates that, yes, he is an actual MD.

Anyway, it wasn't meant to be a "this is the solution for everyone!" post, but it definitely sounds like something that may be worth looking into for some people.
 
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