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[royalan]

They are NOT "homophobic" self-loathing gays!

What they are is vain, superficial & narcissistic high-fashion freaks who live in multi-million dollar mansions, fly around to exotic locations in private jets, party all night sniffing cocaine, and probably fucking a different man every second night (both Domenico Dolce and Stefano Gabbana were in an OPEN romantic relationship for about 20 years).

They're selfish idiots and think just because they are both shallow, promiscuous, and self-centred individuals, that all gays must also be - and thus shouldn't be allowed to marry (considering they both clearly don't believe in monogamy) or raise children (considering they both probably don't even like kids).

...so they're homophobic, self-loathing gays?

 

[sycam0re]

so they are conservatives?

if you are anti-lgbt you are more than just plainly conservative.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

*Sigh* An homophobic contact in Facebook is using this saying that there are even gays that oppose to gay marriage and other things.

SMH, I can't believe they gave ammo to those jerks.

 

[Sai-kun]

They are NOT "homophobic" self-loathing gays!

What they are is vain, superficial & narcissistic high-fashion freaks who live in multi-million dollar mansions, fly around to exotic locations in private jets, party all night sniffing cocaine, and probably fucking a different man every second night (both Domenico Dolce and Stefano Gabbana were in an OPEN romantic relationship for about 20 years).

They're selfish idiots and think just because they are both shallow, promiscuous, and self-centred individuals, that all gays must also be - and thus shouldn't be allowed to marry (considering they both clearly don't believe in monogamy) or raise children (considering they both probably don't even like kids).

sounds pretty self loathing and homophobic to me

 

[mantidor]

I'm going to play a little devil's advocate and say that yes, ideally children should be raised by their biological parents. BUT... we certainly do not live in an ideal world.

I can't wait until science is advanced enough to let gay and lesbian couples have their own biological children, we are almost there, hell yes science!

At first I didn't want any kids, then I thought of adopting, but now I really want children, of my own, maturing is weird.

 

[red13th]

They have a history of being homophobic, so fuck them. Idiots.

 

[dr3upmushroom]

This is crazier than non-white Republicans. I assume that since they are far from having a normal life like most gays live (9-5 jobs, fighting for equal rights, marriage) that it's misconstrued their world view.

Good on Elton John for calling them out.

 

[Rest]

Kind of a weird opinion, but I think the reaction is a bit much.

 

[kitchenmotors]

Kind of a weird opinion, but I think the reaction is a bit much.

Please.

 

[Sai-kun]

Kind of a weird opinion, but I think the reaction is a bit much.

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of course a straight guy thinks the reaction is 'a bit much'

 

[lordfroakie]

Kind of a weird opinion, but I think the reaction is a bit much.

 

[Delio]

Kind of a weird opinion, but I think the reaction is a bit much.

 

[kitchenmotors]

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(Today, 09:27 PM)

of course a straight guy thinks the reaction is 'a bit much'

Apparently a server at Chick Fil A using his name for an order is a bit much tho.

 

[CornBurrito]

Kind of a weird opinion, but I think the reaction is a bit much.

Yeah someone calling your child fake and unnatural wouldn't cause anger in you I'm sure.

 

[NullPointer]

Are these guys spending their earnings to have IVF children specifically referred to as "synthetic" or is this just their personal point of view?

I don't personally expect everyone I do business with to agree with me, my lifestyle, or my beliefs. Now if they won't serve me, or they're actively opposing me, or funding people that oppose me then I sure as hell will do business elsewhere and likely boycott them as well. But otherwise? Live and let live, because the mere act of holding a belief harms no one unless its acted upon.

 

[Son Of D]

Kind of a weird opinion, but I think the reaction is a bit much.

I swear this is you every time you make a post.

 

[royalan]

Are these guys spending their earnings to have IVF children specifically referred to as "synthetic" or is this just their personal point of view?

I don't personally expect everyone I do business with to agree with me, my lifestyle, or my beliefs. Now if they won't serve me, or they're actively opposing me, or funding people that oppose me then I sure as hell will do business elsewhere and likely boycott them as well. But otherwise? Live and let live, because the mere act of holding a belief harms no one unless its acted upon.

It's not like people are calling for Dolce and Gabbana to be tarred and feathered.

If we're expected to respect their opinion, then you have to respect the opinions of people who think D&G are two slimy, ignorant, self-hating people.

 

[red13th]

Are these guys spending their earnings to have IVF children specifically referred to as "synthetic" or is this just their personal point of view?

I don't personally expect everyone I do business with to agree with me, my lifestyle, or my beliefs. Now if they won't serve me, or they're actively opposing me, or funding people that oppose me then I sure as hell will do business elsewhere and likely boycott them as well. But otherwise? Live and let live, because the mere act of holding a belief harms no one unless its acted upon.

sigh.

 

[NullPointer]

If we're expected to respect their opinion, then you have to respect the opinions of people who think D&G are two slimy, ignorant, self-hating people.

There are very few people who I think I would agree with 100% of their opinions. I don't expect people to respect each other's laundry list of opinions - but to respect people enough to hold their own opinions, as long as those don't translate into screwing people over.

And I'm not saying Elton John can't or shouldn't make his tweet. That's fine. Just saying that *I think* calling for a boycott in this instance sounds like a bit much to me. But I tend to give people a wide berth in general.

That's one person's perspective.

 

[DECK'ARD]

Kind of a weird opinion, but I think the reaction is a bit much.

True, it's not as if they tried to force Elton to play Mario Kart.

 

[royalan]

There are very few people who I think I would agree with 100% of their opinions. I don't expect people to respect each other's laundry list of opinions - but to respect people enough to hold their own opinions, as long as those don't translate into screwing people over.

And I'm not saying Elton John can't or shouldn't make his tweet. That's fine. Just saying that *I think* calling for a boycott in this instance sounds like a bit much to me.

That's one person's perspective.

If your opinions not only offend me, but demean me and portray me as less than a person and my children sub-human, why should I continue to give you my business.

You seem to be more upset with the idea that opinions carry social consequences than anybody actually being censored for their speech.

 

[liliththepale]

My mom passed away when I was eighteen and I can definitely say that life without a mom has been worse for me than life with her, but I'm not going to be so jaded as to say that it's automatically bad, that it's bad for everyone, or that two fathers couldn't be just as good or better than heterosexual parents.

This is dumb.

 

[NullPointer]

You seem to be more upset with the idea that opinions carry social consequences than anybody actually being censored for their speech.

I'm all for it actually, but its a weapon I don't brandish so easily. Others are free to do so as they will.

 

[CornBurrito]

Are these guys spending their earnings to have IVF children specifically referred to as "synthetic" or is this just their personal point of view?

I don't personally expect everyone I do business with to agree with me, my lifestyle, or my beliefs. Now if they won't serve me, or they're actively opposing me, or funding people that oppose me then I sure as hell will do business elsewhere and likely boycott them as well. But otherwise? Live and let live, because the mere act of holding a belief harms no one unless its acted upon.

Cool. If someone owns a local business and insults my child to my face, I won't be doing business with them. I see no reason why this shouldn't apply on a larger scale.

 

[kyser73]

Just been looking at Catholicism and IVF...wow...not pretty reading...came across some forum posts with people saying IVF children don't have souls...I mean I don't believe anyone has a soul as I'm a godless atheist, but that's pretty extreme coming from people who believe in them.

Although given the churches' position on the subject - that IVF is immoral - that's no great surprise really.

 

[CornBurrito]

My mom passed away when I was eighteen and I can definitely say that life without a mom has been worse for me than life with her, but I'm not going to be so jaded as to say that it's automatically bad, that it's bad for everyone, or that two fathers couldn't be just as good or better than heterosexual parents.

This is dumb.

Yeah, having a mother pass away is definitely the same as being born through IVF. As we all know, people born through IVF have a lifetime of memories of the mother that donated the egg.

Just been looking at Catholicism and IVF...wow...not pretty reading...came across some forum posts with people saying IVF children don't have souls...I mean I don't believe anyone has a soul as I'm a godless atheist, but that's pretty extreme coming from people who believe in them.

Although given the churches' position on the subject - that IVF is immoral - that's no great surprise really.

It's actually not weird at all for a religious person to believe an IVF child wouldn't have a soul. You can make up anything about souls. It isn't an insult, just a statement about how they believe souls work.

 

[kyser73]

Yeah, having a mother pass away is definitely the same as being born through IVF. As we all know, people born through IVF have a lifetime of memories of the mother that donated the egg.



It's actually not weird at all for a religious person to believe an IVF child wouldn't have a soul. You can make up anything about souls. It isn't an insult, just a statement about how they believe souls work.

It's saying that they are incomplete, that they are non-human since the soul is an essential part of being human.

Calling someone inhuman is pretty unpleasant.

 

[GregLombardi]

I'm pretty sure based upon the statement in the OP I will completely reject anything regarding their brand and put it down among my friends.

 

[CornBurrito]

It's saying that they are incomplete, that they are non-human since the soul is an essential part of being human.

Calling someone inhuman is pretty unpleasant.

Might be unpleasant but I don't really think religions should have to alter their beliefs or messages just to appease modern sensibilities. Of course they'll do it anyway in order to keep followers.

 

[liliththepale]

Yeah, having a mother pass away is definitely the same as being born through IVF. As we all know, people born through IVF have a lifetime of memories of the mother that donated the egg.

I think you read my post wrong because you're taking on an unnecessarily hostile tone. I meant to say that while I understand how it could be argued that life without a mother is less than ideal in some circumstances, it isn't necessarily always so. Dolce and Gabbana are being stupid about this.

 

[Dead Man]

My mom passed away when I was eighteen and I can definitely say that life without a mom has been worse for me than life with her, but I'm not going to be so jaded as to say that it's automatically bad, that it's bad for everyone, or that two fathers couldn't be just as good or better than heterosexual parents.

This is dumb.

What the hell does your mum dying have to do with anything? My parents died when I was in my teens, and I have no idea how in the hell that relates in any way to having gay parents or a single parent. Having two dads isn't like losing a mum, bloody hell. It's not because she is a woman that your life is worse, it is because she was your parent.

I think you read my post wrong because you're taking on an unnecessarily hostile tone. I meant to say that while I understand how it could be argued that life without a mother is less than ideal in some circumstances, it isn't necessarily always so. Dolce and Gabbana are being stupid about this.

Apologies if I misinterpreted, but your post was a bit of a non sequiter to me. I agree that D and C are giant cock heads.

 

[CornBurrito]

I think you read my post wrong because you're taking on an unnecessarily hostile tone. I meant to say that while I understand how it could be argued that life without a mother is less than ideal in some circumstances, it isn't necessarily always so. Dolce and Gabbana are being stupid about this.

My tone was overly hostile because it was just such a non-sequitur (for the reasons Dead Man explained) I didn't know how else to respond to it.

 

[liliththepale]

Okay, well I disagree.

 

[IISANDERII]

Between this and the Rihanna thread, fashion seems unable to keep up with fashions.

 

[Dead Man]

Okay, well I disagree.

You disagree with what? You think someone raised by a single father is worse off than someone raised by a single mother due to no maternal figure?

 

[CornBurrito]

Okay, well I disagree.

Feel free to explain how being born through IVF is the same as losing a mother who loved and raised you for 18 years. I await with bated breath.

 

[DECK'ARD]

You disagree with what? You think someone raised by a single father is worse off than someone raised by a single mother due to no maternal figure?

Feel free to explain how being born through IVF is the same as losing a mother who loved and raised you for 18 years. I await with bated breath.

You are both misinterpreting him.

Again.

He's disagreeing with how you interpreted his post, as there really wasn't anything wrong with it. Stop being so quick to attack.

 

[Rest]

Yeah someone calling your child fake and unnatural wouldn't cause anger in you I'm sure.

Synthetic doesn't mean fake, it means created. And if their issue with IVF is that it's un natural, well, it is. If their opinion is that that's not the right way to conceive, well, that's their opinion. Just leave them to their bullshit and carry on in the real world.

 

[water_wendi]

Synthetic doesn't mean fake, it means created. And if their issue with IVF is that it's un natural, well, it is. If their opinion is that that's not the right way to conceive, well, that's their opinion. Just leave them to their bullshit and carry on in the real world.

5. not real or genuine; artificial; feigned:

 

[Rest]

5. not real or genuine; artificial; feigned:

Five, of how many? Uses for a word are relative, just because a use of a word is reasonably applicable and commonly used doesn't mean that that's what it means. Sure, maybe that's what they meant, but still, it's only an opinion of theirs. They're not emperors of the world, their word isn't law. They're just two guys that can sew, why get mad about what they say? Ignore them.

 

[water_wendi]

Five, of how many? Uses for a word are relative, just because a use of a word is reasonably applicable and commonly used doesn't mean that that's what it means. Sure, maybe that's what they meant, but still, it's only an opinion of theirs.

Its an opinion that people find insulting and repulsive.

They're not emperors of the world, their word isn't law. They're just two guys that can sew, why get mad about what they say? Ignore them.

They arent emperors but the people insulted are their customers. Elton John and others have every right to not buy their stuff if they dont like them or what they say.

 

[Dead Man]

You are both misinterpreting him.

Again.

He's disagreeing with how you interpreted his post, as there really wasn't anything wrong with it. Stop being so quick to attack.

They are free to reply to the question about what they are disagreeing with.

 

[royalan]

Five, of how many? Uses for a word are relative, just because a use of a word is reasonably applicable and commonly used doesn't mean that that's what it means. Sure, maybe that's what they meant, but still, it's only an opinion of theirs. They're not emperors of the world, their word isn't law. They're just two guys that can sew, why get mad about what they say? Ignore them.

...I think ignoring them is exactly what Elton intends on doing.

 

[linsivvi]

*Sigh* An homophobic contact in Facebook is using this saying that there are even gays that oppose to gay marriage and other things.

SMH, I can't believe they gave ammo to those jerks.

For every self-loathing gay person there are dozens of straight person who support gay rights.

It's no ammo. Your contact is firing blanks.

 

[ROUGE_BLOCK]

My head cannot process this, two men who are gay and used to be lovers are against invitro and state the only family is the "traditional" one and are against same-sex marriage...

That is very weird.

 

[Ties]

now you see


i dont quite understand the process of self-loathing. is this before or after spending countless hours fleeting with an empty water bottle just to be stretched by a beer can and the possibility of getting an anal fissure or internal hemorrhoids? because if its the latter all bottoms are sefl-loathing and i respect their decision to discriminate against the toxic girls of this earth who still promote anal sex as a thing. but i will no longer support them after i can surgically create synthetic fleshlight material in me so its a conundrum

 

[Nekofrog]

They are Gay but against gay marriage & adoption of kids what the hell

They're two of the good ones (TM) Republican Party

 

[botty]

now you see


i dont quite understand the process of self-loathing. is this before or after spending countless hours fleeting with an empty water bottle just to be stretched by a beer can and the possibility of getting an anal fissure or internal hemorrhoids? because if its the latter all bottoms are sefl-loathing and i respect their decision to discriminate against the toxic girls of this earth who still promote anal sex as a thing. but i will no longer support them after i can surgically create synthetic fleshlight material in me so its a conundrum

Fleeting verb.
The act of cleansing your colon by way of using Fleet enemas.
Ex. I need to be Fleeting. I'm so constipated I've been sitting on the toilet for ages, and still feel plugged up.

 

[Fenderputty]

I wish I could afford dolce and gabbana so I could boycot them.

 

[freenudemacusers]

I wish I could afford dolce and gabbana so I could boycot them.

well if the brand's trajectory is similar to galliano's after his jew rant then it'll be a lot easier to find at a discount.