Berlanti Productions does have time to ramp up. They went from Arrow in 2012 to two shows in 2013 with Arrow and The Tomorrow People with a shorter Golden Boy to top it off. In 2014 they're juggling three shows already with Arrow, The Flash and The Mysteries of Laura while working on PAN.
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Berlanti Productions does have time to ramp up. They went from Arrow in 2012 to two shows in 2013 with Arrow and The Tomorrow People with a shorter Golden Boy to top it off. In 2014 they're juggling three shows already with Arrow, The Flash and The Mysteries of Laura while working on PAN.
Wiktor
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Yea. There's no way they're not hiring lots of new people. They're on a verge of creating a true tv empire. No way they would screw up opporunity like that by being spread too thin.
BronsonLee
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Well, it starts off alright, but get a really good ne-WAIT.
Trickster
HAMILL YOU SON OF A BITCH
The Flash is a better character, with better villains, and better storylines to draw from than Green Arrow. There's at least 4 or 5 season long arcs they can make with Flash easily.
Septimus Prime
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I would say Sportsmaster and Black Manta got the biggest upgrades, though. Sportsmaster went from joke to cool, and Black Manta went from whatever he was to ultra-cool.
Ra's al Ghul was kind of weak, though.
BronsonLee
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OHHHH LET'S PARTY
More_Badass
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Finally! Time to watch it a few dozen times before tomorrow's episode
BKatastrophe
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That's not an objective claim you can make. Just because they have the capability and the potential does not mean they can execute. Your argument is basically saying if you have two people, both wanting to build a house, and one has infinitely more material resources than the other, then the person with infinite material resources will build a better house. That's just not an objective argument. Just because they have the resources, it does not mean that what they build will be better and more competent than the other. Now, I currently feel The Flash is a better show than Arrow. I know that Flash has a much larger set of mythos and more vast lore and broader history. That does not mean that The Flash will always maintain this level of quality.
I'm not being pessimistic, I'm being realistic. It's not a question of whether or not this show will stumble and falter. It's a question of when will it and when it does, how hard? My fear is that it will be incredibly hard and incredibly explosive.
More_Badass
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Has anything so far this season or anything that the creators have said given that impression? Why would you think a drop in quality would be on a such catastrophic level?
Septimus Prime
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It did already, in the last Rogues episode. Granted, as the only truly bad episode of the show, so far, it's just an outlier, but it gives a good glimpse at how bad things can get, and it bottoms out much lower than the lowest point of Arrow because, at least with Arrow, there are no superpowers to mismanage.
a few dozen times...frame by frame
BKatastrophe
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You're misreading my post. It's not that I think it will be catastrophic, or that I have the impression that it will be. It's my fear that it will be catastrophic.
I've enjoyed both Rogues' episodes immensely. My only issue with the last one was the logic they used for Barry to beat Cold and Heatwave.
Septimus Prime
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Meanwhile, for me, that "cross the beams" nonsense is the nadir of the Arrowverse.
Delta Assault
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He's supposed to have a runner's body. I don't think they're going for a bigger Batman-esque build.
PHOENIXZERO
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It'd be kind of hard for Barry to bulk up with the way his metabolism works.
We need the hype train back!
We need the hype train back!
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Nabs
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I guessss I could watch this 10 more times.
WAR recon zero
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A nuke
Time travel
Reverse flash and flash
Atom
Fucking Grodd
Captain Cold
Heatwave
Luke Skywalker as the Trickster
And more
Time travel
Reverse flash and flash
Atom
Fucking Grodd
Captain Cold
Heatwave
Luke Skywalker as the Trickster
And more
In one Fucking trailer
What a time to be alive
That was awesome, but I mildly regret watching it because of all the spoilers. Still, this may be a season that I pick up on Blu-Ray the instant it drops considering just how much they've crammed into its freshman season. Love it.
More_Badass
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Those scenes with Hamill...it's like they said, "Just give us your best Joker voice"
That's going to be a fun episode
That's going to be a fun episode
Doubt it. He used that style of voice when he voiced the Trickster on Justice League: Unlimited.
He's used it for a variety of roles. Most video game roles he gets seem to be basically the Joker voice.
Just_myles
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My guess for the Eddie things is totally
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Grodd
His possible descent into ZOOM if it ever happens, should be gradual.
BodiesWithoutOrgans
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Arrow & Flash
Oh My what shows
Oh My what shows
Have you seen college track and field athletes lately? He's not even REMOTELY close. I mean, it's season 1, so I can sort of get over it for now, but... I dunno, the beanpole look doesn't work long-term for me.
unholyrevenger72
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cuz he was barely even featured, his biggest scene was noticing Tigresses Glamour
uh, runners in general tend to look like that, specially long distance runners.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Oh man, that shit is cray-cray.
Eddie losing his fucking mind is probably due to Grodd, but it's a nice inverse from when Flash lost his mind and Eddie thought he was an out-and-out villain.
Wells' identity is pretty much gonna be blown by the third to last episode, I think. I mean, we know it's happening, but still. I'm so anticipating that moment, it's going to be crazy!
Love that it looks like Laurel's gonna actually have some fun! I like that Cisco is geeking out over her being Black Canary and she's all sly about it. My girl!
And holy fuck, it looks like everyone's gonna wind up knowing that Barry is The Flash. Snart figures it out lickety-split.
Trickster looks fun! Grodd looks terrifying.
Wells' identity is pretty much gonna be blown by the third to last episode, I think. I mean, we know it's happening, but still. I'm so anticipating that moment, it's going to be crazy!
Love that it looks like Laurel's gonna actually have some fun! I like that Cisco is geeking out over her being Black Canary and she's all sly about it. My girl!
And holy fuck, it looks like everyone's gonna wind up knowing that Barry is The Flash. Snart figures it out lickety-split.
Trickster looks fun! Grodd looks terrifying.
They can do the same thing with Arrow. I'm still holding out hope for Outsiders War and SuperMAX storylines.
Awwww yissss
NotTheGuyYouKill
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RUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUNRUN!
Man, I'm so looking forward to Mark Hammill
Man, I'm so looking forward to Mark Hammill
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Other speedsters and more time travel shenanigans, I assume.
TheGreatDirector
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Alright so after watching the trailer again I have some major SPOILERY questions...
At 1:51 who is the blonde girl sitting in the chair? More importantly what is that place behind her with the ceiling covering what looks like a city? Could it be future Central City? Could she be Gideon? Could the ceiling covered city have something to do with the Red Skies?
At 1:48 there are two people in Flash costumes fighting. Are they both Barry or is one an impostor?
In the trailer Captain Cold says "Nice to see you, Barry" Does Captain Cold find out his identity?!
Boogalogist
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Start of Flashpoint! Whole of season 2 in alternate time line!
PhoncipleBone
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Oh, that looks so awesome. And it is crazy to think they are delivering so much awesome in just the first season of this show.
Deadstarone
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First question
Bug-Eyed Bandit played by Emily Kinney. She's a tech using thief who built robotic bees. This is also supposed to be the episode where Ray and Felicity cross over from Arrow. Hopefully we see Atom shrink to fight robotic bees.
Second
No one knows for sure yet. Could be a shapeshifter, could be Barry fighting himself or an imposter.
Third
Clearly he does. Whether it sticks or not will be more interesting considering we're going to deal with time travel soon. One amazing theory I saw elsewhere today is that Flash asks Cold for help against Reverse Flash.
BKatastrophe
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That was my issue with the episode, but that was really one scene out of the entire episode. The rest was so much fun.
Had not thought about that. Good point.
Grodd for next season
Jorok Goldblade
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Brings up another interesting point
Eobarde Thawne Reverse Flash had plastic surgery to look like Barry. What if Eddie goes a bit crazy, gets trapped in the future, and comes back as Harrison Wells?
Captain Cold helps Flash out quite a bit, oddly enough. And Barry's identity probably doesn't stay secret past a season or two. Everyone knew about Wally.
Also it's nice that Barry doesn't have a super shredded body like the entire cast of Arrow. Probably nice for Gustin too, Amell has trouble maintaining his physique with the demanding hours.
Also it's nice that Barry doesn't have a super shredded body like the entire cast of Arrow. Probably nice for Gustin too, Amell has trouble maintaining his physique with the demanding hours.
Phoenician_Viking
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Holy shit. Between the new trailer of Arrow and Flash new trailers, the end of seasons will be insane.
It might be worse. Season one is fast paced because they did not think there will be another one. Now that the Flash is audience magnet and is an established series, i doubt that the pace will stay as fast.
Chesthair
Eddie being a tool
ATOM
Justice League Doom. OMFG. The special wrist bomb
Eddie being a tool
ATOM
Justice League Doom. OMFG. The special wrist bomb
It might be worse. Season one is fast paced because they did not think there will be another one. Now that the Flash is audience magnet and is an established series, i doubt that the pace will stay as fast.
Wiktor
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That would make crossover with Arrow impossible though. They would need to have whole Arrow's S4's storyline take place after Flash's S2 ends with restoration of original timeline.
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