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[MrChom]

But Assault on Arkham was pretty good and got me hyped for Suicide Squad

I hated it. I seem to be in a minority, but I thought it had a predictable meandering plot, entirely unnecessary T&A with Harley/Killer Frost (The sex scene, and the one where Killer Frost is topless in the morgue especially), and just seemed to rely on being shocking/gory to do anything.

I watched it with a friend who's similarly into the DC animated movies, and at the end we basically both turned to each other and expressed just how bad we thought it was. And it was pretty bad in our opinion.

As for Suicide Squad....I don't want Harley in a movie. I thought she was brilliant in Batman TAS but there have been few good interpretations of her since.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

The "rest of season" trailer is spoilerific.

Without mentioning some of the bigger surprises, it was cool to see the Trixster

Spoiler

use the bomb-attached-to-wrist trick from Justice League: Doom.

 

[Freewheelin']

Is there another break before the end of the season for both Arrow and Flash?

 

[Joni]

Is there another break before the end of the season for both Arrow and Flash?

Arrow ends on May 13th. It skips April 8th but there are no other breaks.
The Flash ends on May 19th. It skips April 7th, there are no other breaks if it is a 23 episode season.

 

[Lashley]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

What an episode! At least he'll be able to save Cisco.

 

[Schweinehund]

Thanks you guys -guess i will be watching the Movie as soon as possible...hope it doesnt spoil the current show too much though. I like not knowing what the characters true intentions are.

It probably won't spoil the show very much at all. Flashpoint changed significant portions of the DC universe that aren't even present in Flash. Cisco and Caitlyn aren't even supporting characters in the flash comics.

Best DC animated movies are Wonder Woman, Crisis on Two Earths, TDKR, Red Hood, Batman/Superman, Flashpoint, Return of Black Adam (best of the showcases but I like them all, spectre is good as well), Assault on Arkham. The rest are ok and the only one I feel is "garbage" is son of batman.

Best DC animated movies ever or just in recent years? Because that list is missing Mask of the Phantasm

Technically it's not consider a "Dc Universe Animated Original" but yeah I'd throw that on there too.

 

[More_Badass]

Best DC animated movies ever or just in recent years? Because that list is missing Mask of the Phantasm

 

[Raistlin]

I'm starting to not like Iris as much anymore, even though I know her and Barry are going to end up together.

And I'm done with this thread

 

[Fury451]

I hated it. I seem to be in a minority, but I thought it had a predictable meandering plot, entirely unnecessary T&A with Harley/Killer Frost (The sex scene, and the one where Killer Frost is topless in the morgue especially), and just seemed to rely on being shocking/gory to do anything.

I pretty much agree. I greatly enjoy DC animated films, but this one left me totally ambivalent for the first time. The reason you mentioned are a pretty good summary of what I found unlikable. And I think the violence was more heavy handed for the shock factor rather than serving the plot, but that's just me.

I disagree about Harley in a Suicide Squad movie though. I really enjoy that character a lot and she offers a fun dynamic to the team, but usually if she's got some distance from Mistah J. Though I could see how she could be more grating than anything, depending on the writer.

 

[BodiesWithoutOrgans]

Poor Cisco

 

[Jonogunn]

The cops are like "take him down! *points guns*"

*waits several seconds for weather wizard to conjure up some weather shit*

Like damn. Slowest shooters ever.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Wait until Bart Allen comes into the picture.

That's be so crash

As for Suicide Squad....I don't want Harley in a movie. I thought she was brilliant in Batman TAS but there have been few good interpretations of her since.

Well it helps that she was originally from BTAS. But I think Harley can have a good interpretation. If people don't try, we're never going to get one. Her solo comic has been pretty good from the few issues I've read. She was good in New 52 Suicide Squad and New Suicide Squad up until the whole team changed to include Reverse Flash and shit. Now she's just crazy and it's really dumb.

 

[Rosur]

Poor Cisco

Spoiler

I'm assuming the going back in time will somehow save him. As doubt he's permanently dead

 

[guek]

As for Suicide Squad....I don't want Harley in a movie. I thought she was brilliant in Batman TAS but there have been few good interpretations of her since.

She's become nothing but a walking sex symbol for DC, which is depressing for all the wrong reasons. It doesn't help that they can't even go the full nine yards and do anything more than imply she gets regularly beaten and tortured by Joker for sexual gratification because actively showing that is way way way taboo. Not that I want to see that anyway but somehow I think it wouldd feel less pandering that way.

 

[More_Badass]

That's be so crash


Well it helps that she was originally from BTAS. But I think Harley can have a good interpretation. If people don't try, we're never going to get one. Her solo comic has been pretty good from the few issues I've read. She was good in New 52 Suicide Squad and New Suicide Squad up until the whole team changed to include Reverse Flash and shit. Now she's just crazy and it's really dumb.

How the hell do you keep Reverse Flash in line?

 

[BKatastrophe]

How the hell do you keep Reverse Flash in line?

His connection to Speed Force got fucked up somehow or something. Also, Black Hand is on the team too. That motherfucker only shows up when there's an apocalypse.

DC somehow managed to fuck up the core concept of Suicide Squad.

Somehow.

 

[TheGreatDirector]

In regard to the promo...

Spoiler

By saving Cisco, Barry will more than likely indirectly cause another tragedy to occur due to time wanting to correct itself if we are to believe Wells.

 

[guek]

In regard to the promo...

Spoiler

By saving Cisco, Barry will more than likely indirectly cause another tragedy to occur due to time wanting to correct itself if we are to believe Wells.

A groundhog day style episode like some were suggesting would legit blow my mind and instantly ingratiate myself to this show indefinitely.

 

[Lashley]

RIP Joe then

 

[GulAtiCa]

Someone should make a gif of that movement Flash travels back in time.

 

[Wiktor]

A groundhog day style episode like some were suggesting would legit blow my mind and instantly ingratiate myself to this show indefinitely.

Not watching Person of Interest, eh? Big mistake

 

[EroticSushi]

Someone should make a gif of that movement Flash travels back in time.

 

[guek]

Not watching Person of Interest, eh? Big mistake

It's on my list!

 

[Discotheque]

Not watching Person of Interest, eh? Big mistake

that was less groundhog day and more like that shitty movie with Jack from Lost.

Edge of Tomorrow was the groundhog day/action mashup we deserve.

 

[More_Badass]

His connection to Speed Force got fucked up somehow or something. Also, Black Hand is on the team too. That motherfucker only shows up when there's an apocalypse.

DC somehow managed to fuck up the core concept of Suicide Squad.

Somehow.

I just looked this up online

They have a Talon on the Squad?
Wut

That's so stupid

 

[Neoxon]

The "rest of season" trailer is spoilerific.

Without mentioning some of the bigger surprises, it was cool to see the Trixster

Spoiler

use the bomb-attached-to-wrist trick from Justice League: Doom.

Spoiler

So I wasn't the only one who saw Trickster steal Mirror Master's trap

Spoiler

(it was actually Batman's, but you get the idea).

 

[TheGreatDirector]

Next season will most definitely introduce Wally and more hero characters like Firestorm. As for the big bad I have no idea who they can get to replace Wells.

Vandal Savage? Neron?

Spoiler

Hunter Zolomon doesn't seem to exist in this universe unless Eddie is jsut hiding his identity.

 

[guek]

A Vandal savage episode where Barry is marooned in the distant past, foils some insidious plot by Savage, and then goes back to meet him as an enemy in the present in the next ep would be glorious.

 

[Discotheque]

I wonder how old they're gonna go with Wally. It's cool he's likely going to be a black kid too.

 

[morningbus]

Next season will most definitely introduce Wally and more hero characters like Firestorm. As for the big bad I have no idea who they can get to replace Wells.

Vandal Savage? Neron?

Spoiler

Hunter Zolomon doesn't seem to exist in this universe unless Eddie is jsut hiding his identity.

That's my only concern for Season 2. They are going to be losing the best villain ever and it'll difficult to replace him.

Regarding the spoiler (though it's in the official character description)

Spoiler

Yes, Eddie has a mysterious past he is running from too

A Vandal savage episode where Barry is marooned in the distant past, foils some insidious plot by Savage, and then goes back to meet him as an enemy in the present in the next ep would be glorious.

Would be amazing. I can already imagine the scene when Barry returns to the present only to find Star Labs in ruin with Savage holding everyone hostage.

I wonder how old they're gonna go with Wally. It's cool he's likely going to be a black kid too.

I hope you're ready for people to be unable to properly articulate what they hate about the black Wally West.

 

[Discotheque]

"I don't like how he runs...he has a thug posture" lol

 

[TheGreatDirector]

I'm interested in how old they'll make Wally. His future wife, Linda, is in her twenties in this show but usually Wally's only a teen if Barry's the Flash at this age.

I'm assuming next season will also have the full Rogue squad as well as a more intelligent Grodd.

 

[BKatastrophe]

I just looked this up online

They have a Talon on the Squad?
Wut

That's so stupid

I mean Talon kinda makes sense, but Black Hand and Reverse Flash really grind my gears.

Spoiler

So I wasn't the only one who saw Trickster steal Mirror Master's trap

Spoiler

(it was actually Batman's, but you get the idea).

Spoiler

The original trap was a vibrating bullet, which I still think is way better than that bomb. We haven't gotten to that point in the mythos yet, though.

Next season will most definitely introduce Wally and more hero characters like Firestorm. As for the big bad I have no idea who they can get to replace Wells.

Vandal Savage? Neron?

Spoiler

Hunter Zolomon doesn't seem to exist in this universe unless Eddie is jsut hiding his identity.

Grodd could. Also

Spoiler

Hunter Zolomon could very well exist. We're just not aware of him yet.

A Vandal savage episode where Barry is marooned in the distant past, foils some insidious plot by Savage, and then goes back to meet him as an enemy in the present in the next ep would be glorious.

Vandal Savage should be a few seasons in. Like, S4. Give us some time where Barry goes in the past and comes back, and then in like the S3 finale, show Vandal Savage doing the classic office chair spin.

 

[MHWilliams]

Eddie doing some weird shit hiding in those shadows when Joe meets him.

 

[gazele]

I'm interested in how old they'll make Wally. His future wife, Linda, is in her twenties in this show but usually Wally's only a teen if Barry's the Flash at this age.

I'm assuming next season will also have the full Rogue squad as well as a more intelligent Grodd.

Probably a similar age gap with Roy and Ollie

I'm a little worried about the big bad for next year, but that episode could have been the season finale and no one would have been dissapointed, so for now, I have trust in the show runners

 

[GashPrex]

I used to really dislike Iris - her character added nothing to the show, but she seems strangely more likable and attractive lately.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Eddie doing some weird shit hiding in those shadows when Joe meets him.

That's why they call him Shady Eddie.

Spoiler

I'd like to believe it's a nickname he'd have

 

[ZeroFate]

Probably a similar age gap with Roy and Ollie

I'm a little worried about the big bad for next year, but that episode could have been the season finale and no one would have been dissapointed, so for now, I have trust in the show runners

They've set up Grodd for season 2 perfectly. Kinda like Slade for Arrow season 2 now that I think about it.

 

[gazele]

They've set up Grodd for season 2 perfectly. Kinda like Slade for Arrow season 2 now that I think about it.

Hmm, not sure they'd want that much cgi and I don't know how grodd would be over extended time, but that is a good point

 

[BKatastrophe]

Hmm, not sure they'd want that much cgi and I don't know how grodd would be over extended time, but that is a good point

Dude...Gorilla City

 

[More_Badass]

Rewatching the episode (again)

...so Barry just keeps his outfit around in a duffel bag in the middle of the police station?

 

[Septimus Prime]

Probably a similar age gap with Roy and Ollie

I'm a little worried about the big bad for next year, but that episode could have been the season finale and no one would have been dissapointed, so for now, I have trust in the show runners

The episode we just got was supposed to be the original season finale, was it not? I'm assuming RF will still be around next season, since ending him in season 1 was not in the original plan, which means Tom Cavanagh's contract is probably for more than one year.

Wells probably won't be pretending to be a good guy anymore, though, is my guess.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Rewatching the episode (again)

...so Barry just keeps his outfit around in a duffel bag in the middle of the police station?

Well, he does spend a lot of time in the lab upstairs. Plus, he did run in to save the Captain's life and then came back. I imagine he changed nearby and didn't want to leave the suit laying around where someone could find it.

 

[Delta Assault]

Rewatching the episode (again)

...so Barry just keeps his outfit around in a duffel bag in the middle of the police station?

They gotta introduce that ring soon.

 

[BKatastrophe]

They gotta introduce that ring soon.

Wells has one, so at some point it gets made. I'm betting after Wells gets beaten, they use his ring. Probably duplicate it.

 

[DeathyBoy]

The episode we just got was supposed to be the original season finale, was it not? I'm assuming RF will still be around next season, since ending him in season 1 was not in the original plan, which means Tom Cavanagh's contract is probably for more than one year.

Wells probably won't be pretending to be a good guy anymore, though, is my guess.

I can see them locking Wells up and going to him for information on future villains.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I'd be ok with the speed fluctuations if they actually addressed it at some point. How hard would it be to have had them talk about some kind of reflexive speed increase the first time something like this happened? Just something to recognize that hey, this room full of geniuses aren't completely glossing over the major issue of Flash's plot-induced speed changes..

The thing is, the fluctuations don't really need to be addressed. It's a pretty standard trope that a superhero unlocks or boosts already unlocked abilities during moments of extreme stress or panic and Flash has shown to be do this before in Justice League when he accidentally unlocked access to the speedforce when he was laying the beat-down on Lex.

 

[infi]

Hmm, not sure they'd want that much cgi and I don't know how grodd would be over extended time, but that is a good point

Grodd himself wouldn't need to be seen much, just have him work through brain washed minions like that General dude

 

[gazele]

The episode we just got was supposed to be the original season finale, was it not? I'm assuming RF will still be around next season, since ending him in season 1 was not in the original plan, which means Tom Cavanagh's contract is probably for more than one year.

Wells probably won't be pretending to be a good guy anymore, though, is my guess.

Hmm, maybe, I can't find any evidence that this was supposed to be the season finale, but it could have been

I like the idea of Tom Cavanagh sticking around, he's been great

 

[TDLink]

Having seen all but Superman Unbound and Throne of Atlantis I can honestly say that I only thought two were trash, and that's Gotham Knight, and Assault on Arkham (and that really is its own class of putrid rubbish because at least Gotham Knight had some redeeming bits.)

Crisis on Two Earths, Justice League Doom, and the two Green Lantern movies were pretty great, too. New Frontier and All Star Superman didn't live up to the sources but were good.

The problem with most of these DC Animated films is that more often than not they assume the viewer is already pretty familiar with the character or characters and storyline on display. Most of the films play like abridged versions of comic book stories, cutting out all of the meat and drama and leaving only a bullet point plot, very rarely explaining much of anything in depth. Often it feels like they are just there to set up action scene after action scene, sometimes with characters fighting eachother for no reason other than they didn't get to explain what they were doing there. You could chalk this up to comic book tropes, but I say it's lazy and incredibly poor film-making. I imagine the writer(s) for each film typically have a conversation or thought process like this: "We don't care that much about this plot, but if we make the heroes fight eachother, the viewer probably won't care either because it will be cool! Who cares if the reason for that fight is flimsy or non-existent!" For the most part these movies just pander to already existing fans of DC comic properties and ride almost solely on "cool" action scenes rather than any sort of good characterization or narrative. There are some good ones (which I mentioned previously) but most suffer from these problems.

Note: I do not count the Bruce Timm era films (like Mask of the Phantasm, which is great and doesn't suffer from anything I am saying here) when I am talking about the DC Animated films. I am speaking of the modern films which have been shat out in the last few years.