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The four I mentioned first specifically don't do that, and the only one which is an adaptation is the GL anthology, and it's got tons of character moments.

The straight adaptations do suffer for that, the originals are better.
 
Best episode of any TV show I've ever seen! I have to say the beginning of the episode was rather dull though, was kind of expecting a sub-par episode where not much happens at first but I'm so glad it didn't turn out like that.
 
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I guess we should meticulously search through the other episodes for all time-displaced references from Wells. I think that "waited for centuries" line was probably the most on-the-nose one
 
So I haven't really read or watched anything about the Flash before this TV show started and I want to get started on watching some of the animated movies that came out recently like the flashpoint paradox.

So What are the movies I should watch from the Justice league or any related ones like Batman and superman?
I'm not watching all of them
 
Eyemus Lutt said:
So I haven't really read or watched anything about the Flash before this TV show started and I want to get started on watching some of the animated movies that came out recently like the flashpoint paradox.

So What are the movies I should watch from the Justice league or any related ones like Batman and superman?
I'm not watching all of them
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"Wonder Woman" and "The Flashpoint Paradox" are good.
 
More_Badass said:
I guess we should meticulously search through the other episodes for all time-displaced references from Wells. I think that "waited for centuries" line was probably the most on-the-nose one
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I recently have been rewatching the series with friends and he does it all the time. Allusions to his being from the future, double-entendre, and small facial reactions and ticks whenever the man in yellow, nora's murder, or reverse flash are mentioned.

You might also notice he rarely uses contractions when he speaks.

Tom Cavanagh's portrayal of the duality of Harrison Wells/Eobard Thawne is absolutely fantastic and has been since day one. It's kind of mind-blowing.
 
Septimus Prime said:
The episode we just got was supposed to be the original season finale, was it not? I'm assuming RF will still be around next season, since ending him in season 1 was not in the original plan, which means Tom Cavanagh's contract is probably for more than one year.

Wells probably won't be pretending to be a good guy anymore, though, is my guess.
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I wouldn't imagine so

Think original order would have been for 13... but even still

The show got extended... I think even before it aired so probably never had a "finale" in mind for anything but the end
 
Septimus Prime said:
The episode we just got was supposed to be the original season finale, was it not? I'm assuming RF will still be around next season, since ending him in season 1 was not in the original plan, which means Tom Cavanagh's contract is probably for more than one year.

Wells probably won't be pretending to be a good guy anymore, though, is my guess.
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I don't know about all of that but I think someone on here said at one point this was going to be the last episode before the month long break we just had. I can see that but at the same time I wouldn't want a month long wait after this episode.
 
Penguin said:
I wouldn't imagine so

Think original order would have been for 13... but even still

The show got extended... I think even before it aired so probably never had a "finale" in mind for anything but the end
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This was episode 15, so even then it wouldnt have been a finale. The creators are just that crazy, that they put finale-worthy episodes mid-season
 
I fully expect a retcon of what happened in that episode. It gives Barry a taste of what he truly wants with Iris and being able to time travel, but he also doesn't know that Wells is a bad guy after this. I think Cisco will have lingering memories of what happened, but something will stop him from actually being killed by Wells.
 
More_Badass said:
This was episode 15, so even then it wouldnt have been a finale. The creators are just that crazy, that they put finale-worthy episodes mid-season
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If you take out the two firestorm episodes and move this one forward it becomes episode 13. It probably could have acted as a season finale, but when they found out they got a full order they moved the firestorm stuff up. Obviously the episode (and other episodes since 9) wouldn't have been exactly the same since other minor stuff would have to be altered (probably mostly related to Linda and Iris' new job, and some Firestorm threading that notably only showed up in episodes after the pickup--9 onward). The episodes brings many big things from the first 12 episodes to a close (Iris and Barry, The Reverse Flash/Wells, and Joe and the Mardon brothers) before the cliffhanger at the end. It feels very full circle and season finale for that reason.
 
I liked the episode, but I was confused about why Barry changed locations during the time travel sequence. Shouldn't he have still been on the beach? I get that seeing himself was an important cue, but I don't get how or why he teleported.

On the other hand, I'm interested in how the rest of it takes place. Seeing himself travel to the past before he did it suggests a single static timeline rather than dynamic or multiple timelines. If I were him and I realized that, I'd have to also realize that it meant his mom isn't able to be saved. So maybe he just goes back to gather evidence to help his father in the present?
 
liliththepale said:
I liked the episode, but I was confused about why Barry changed locations during the time travel sequence. Shouldn't he have still been on the beach? I get that seeing himself was an important cue, but I don't get how or why he teleported.
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I think he replaced the Barry from original timeline, so there won't be two Barrys next episode.
 
liliththepale said:
On the other hand, I'm interested in how the rest of it takes place. Seeing himself travel to the past before he did it suggests a single static timeline rather than dynamic or multiple timelines. If I were him and I realized that, I'd have to also realize that it meant his mom isn't able to be saved. So maybe he just goes back to gather evidence to help his father in the present?
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It is strange that Wells can change the timeline. He killed the mom, he gave Barry powers earlier, ...
 
liliththepale said:
I liked the episode, but I was confused about why Barry changed locations during the time travel sequence. Shouldn't he have still been on the beach? I get that seeing himself was an important cue, but I don't get how or why he teleported.

On the other hand, I'm interested in how the rest of it takes place. Seeing himself travel to the past before he did it suggests a single static timeline rather than dynamic or multiple timelines. If I were him and I realized that, I'd have to also realize that it meant his mom isn't able to be saved. So maybe he just goes back to gather evidence to help his father in the present?
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There was evidence of a dynamic timeline when Barry losing his powers caused the future to change
 
As is my contractual obligation, any time DC movies come up I have to pimp Superman vs. The Elite. It's an adaptation of What's so Funny about Truth, Justice, and the American Way, by the guy who wrote it. Decent animation and voicework, but the really impressive bit is the ending.
 
AdrianWerner said:
I think he replaced the Barry from original timeline, so there won't be two Barrys next episode.
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I sure hope theshow will give a good explanation for this if it's the case, because it doesn't make any sense. The original Barry didn't disappear when he saw his fuure self earlier in the episode, so why would that happen the second time?
 
Thinking about the time travel some more (time travel and alt realities in sci fi are so fun to analyze!)

Given that the future of that timeline when Barry lost his powers, I think we can assume that there's one timeline that changes dynamically through the actions of those who alter it, rather than divergent timelines.

And I don't think there'll be two Barry's. When he jumps back to that point, "future" Barry esssentially becomes "present" Barry and time continues anew from that point.
 
OMG.

I'm an education major and as going to become a teacher. Had to observe K-3rd grade today. The 2nd grade teacher was a PAWG version of Caitlin Snow.

I'm in love
 
More_Badass said:
Thinking about the time travel some more (time travel and alt realities in sci fi are so fun to analyze!)

Given that the future of that timeline when Barry lost his powers, I think we can assume that there's one timeline that changes dynamically through the actions of those who alter it, rather than divergent timelines.

And I don't think there'll be two Barry's. When he jumps back to that point, "future" Barry esssentially becomes "present" Barry and time continues anew from that point.
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How does that explain then how Barry later goes back to try and prevent his/his mother's death? There has to be two Barrys at that point.

Not having two Barrys mucks up the time travel rules they've already set up. But I'm curious to see if they resolve this at all or just ignore it.
 
Makonero said:
How does that explain then how Barry later goes back to try and prevent his/his mother's death? There has to be two Barrys at that point.

Not having two Barrys mucks up the time travel rules they've already set up. But I'm curious to see if they resolve this at all or just ignore it.
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But young Barry didnt have the Speedforce. I'm not that knowledgable about Flash stuff, but I'll take a wild guess that having access to the Speedforce helps circumvent the paradox breaking aspects of time travel
 
More_Badass said:
But young Barry didnt have the Speedforce. I'm not that knowledgable about Flash stuff, but I'll take a wild guess that having access to the Speedforce helps circumvent the paradox breaking aspects of time travel
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That could be one way to explain it. It could also be that when he uses a cosmic treadmill, it splits him off (and hence why there is adult and child Barry when his mom dies) and we just haven't seen the treadmill yet.

I love the idea of a time traveling treadmill and I want it in this show so bad!
 
Poodlestrike said:
As is my contractual obligation, any time DC movies come up I have to pimp Superman vs. The Elite. It's an adaptation of What's so Funny about Truth, Justice, and the American Way, by the guy who wrote it. Decent animation and voicework, but the really impressive bit is the ending.
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I agree that it's one of the best ones, but the art style leaves a lot of be desired.

Wonder Woman, on the other hand, is flat out the best one in just about every aspect.
 
Season promo spoilers:
There's a scene where Joe is unearthing a skeleton and saying something to the effect of "If that's who I think it is"." What do you guys think? Is the skeleton the original Harrison Wells that Thawne replaced? Stagg? Someone else?
 
The really impressive thing about this episode was that they were able to make the "Dream Episode" cliché work for the first time in a long time.
 
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