What i find hilarious is the huuuuuuuuuuge difference between Wells in his normal form and when he's in the costume. Tom Cavanagh is a really thin dude and his double does not make him look good at all. There is like 50 pounds of difference at least lol.
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What i find hilarious is the huuuuuuuuuuge difference between Wells in his normal form and when he's in the costume. Tom Cavanagh is a really thin dude and his double does not make him look good at all. There is like 50 pounds of difference at least lol.
BronsonLee
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I don't know if this is a wise rabbit hole to fall into
You know what happened to the last guy who talked shit about Wells!
Delta Assault
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Yeah, truth. That was one of the major reasons I didn't think he was Zoom... Zoom is built like a brick shithouse, while Tom Cavanaugh definitely isn't.
Angelus Errare
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It's a race to the bottom with CGI studios.
PHOENIXZERO
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Gustin isn't going and doesn't need to bulk up and they already indirectly explained why. His metabolism is way too high to allow him to really build up much in the way of muscle, if anything he should have a really low body fat percentage.
I believe 18 episodes should be the absolutely max for serial shows like this. More purely episodic shows it's whatever, but I've yet to encounter a serial show that actually needed 23 episode seasons.
How do you know? where can you look that up?
Daredevil, AKA Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, The defenders?
I'm expecting all of them to be of very high quality too because Netflix is involved and there's less episodes.
Once Marvel gets a huge hitter we'll probably see them take TV more serious, they haven't really had their Arrow yet. AoS was garbage for 90% of Season 1 and Agent carter wasn't exactly a huge hit, though it was somewhat enjoyable. Daredevil looks to be amazing and could be that show.
I remember reading around launch that it wasn't picked up for broadcast in some countries outside of the US and Canada, I know UK and Australia weren't getting it around the same time as the US though that may have changed. Only 8 episodes and Shield's generally average ratings means little demand.
We already have a CW show devoted to beefcakes.
BKatastrophe
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We've been over this before, but can we not get too much into the Marvel talk? Especially when, 90% of the time, it becomes a dick waving contest.
Hours Left
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I didn't say super buff, but I do think he looks too lean for the role currently. (If we're talking about Grant, he looks great, but for The Flash, I think he could use some more muscle.) Even Flash designs that don't fit the typical superhero/bodybuilder physique are still more muscular than this iteration, and I think it's apt for the abilities of the character.
P.S. No muscle shaming.
Right, those would be type of "super buff" I was saying Grant doesn't need to look like.
BKatastrophe
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This show was definitely the tipping point I needed in order to finally buy into The Flash comics. Picked up the first volume of the New 52 book and got a couple guys at the comic shop I frequent to give me some recommendations for old books. I'll look into that next time I go.
Going full Flash for these final few weeks.
Going full Flash for these final few weeks.
I didn't say super buff, but I do think he looks too lean for the role currently. (If we're talking about Grant, he looks great, but for The Flash, I think he could use some more muscle.) Even Flash designs that don't fit the typical superhero/bodybuilder physique are still more muscular than this iteration, and I think it's apt for the abilities of the character.
P.S. No muscle shaming.
How does he look too lean for the role? His powers negate any actual need to get buff. His strength comes from the mass created by his speed. The only reason would be to make him look more like the comic version and even that design is absurd. If we're judging characters by how faithful they look to their comic counterparts, Rick Cosnett probably looks more like Barry with his blonde hair and bigger frame.
Amell also mentioned he doesn't like having to maintain the physique Arrow demands so ideally that pressure doesn't get put on Gustin either.
P.S. No lean shaming!
Septimus Prime
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They can also just pad the suit.
Hours Left
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I understand where the strength of his punches/attacks come from, that's not what I'm talking about. He's running constantly, breaking down and repairing muscles. His lean body doesn't make sense for the physical energy he's exerting and the strain he's putting his muscles through, even though he heals quickly. (Some might say that the quick healing should even promote more muscle growth.)
Yeah, I'm sure it's extremely hard to maintain a body like Amell's, but that's part of the role and I think it's important to maintain that. And again, I don't think Barry should look like Oliver, but I do think he should have some more muscle to properly portray the character.
P.S.S. You're the one that said "gross" in reference to a body type, not me. You make Oliver cry broody tears.
Can't wait!!
Aw yisssss almost positive we gonna get a Barry-Harrison showdown or something either this episode or next episode.
Can't wait!!
I read this in The Joker's voice.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Can't wait!!
Aw yiss
PHOENIXZERO
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Yes, yes it is. He already needs an extremely high intake of carbs (and calories) to produce the glucose needed to maintain his powers, it should be very difficult for the character to put on a significant amount of muscle. Not to say Grant couldn't benefit from some time in the gym but he certainly doesn't need to bulk up though maybe it wouldn't hurt to put on a bit of muscle, but more importantly he should be more defined.
brotkasten
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I don't get the discussion. My line of thinking is "is the show worse, because Grant isn't any kind of buff?" and the answer is pretty obvious. Him getting buff doesn't make the show better or worse and it's in no way necessary for his character. He's fine.
Seriously. What exactly does Gustin carrying 20 lbs more weight around add to the show?
It is utterly irrelevant in the comics and even more so here.
Why on earth would The Flash's muscle mass have to correlate with his powers improving? That would make zero sense. There are more than enough superheroes with unrealistic wrestling builds out there. IMO part of the charm of The Flash (and Spider-Man) is how easy it is to relate to him in terms of personality and looks. It'd be extremely lame if they just had him buff up to be generic-brooding-sexy-superhero #295.
I should really look into my sexuality considering I keep posting this: the guy isn't some scrawny dude. He has enough muscles to portray a runner.
But he isn't a sprinter, he is long distance runner considering he isn't done after 100 meters. This is what a marathon runner looks like.
Given we're talking about a dude who has a move called "infinite mass punch", this whole conversation is beyond redundant imo.
For those who might care about an international rating of Flash:
In Germany Flash is now an average performer (after a very good start) for its broadcaster, but strong enough to win its timeslot in the demo
At least to me it looks like there is not enough information available in one spot to come to any conclusion. The infos are probably there, but split among many different websites and languages.
At least in Germany the show has found a home, and might air here before season 2 of Shield
In Germany Flash is now an average performer (after a very good start) for its broadcaster, but strong enough to win its timeslot in the demo
At least to me it looks like there is not enough information available in one spot to come to any conclusion. The infos are probably there, but split among many different websites and languages.
At least in Germany the show has found a home, and might air here before season 2 of Shield
Admiral Woofington
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If you guys don't like Grants physique that much let Sony take him for Spiderman.
Batman and Superman having UFC Heavyweight builds is stupid as all Hell too. At least with Arrow it makes sense given Oliver does nothing all day except work out and write Felicity love poetry he's too beta to give her.
And Superman's the fucking worst. It makes no sense that he looks like a brick shit-house.
And Superman's the fucking worst. It makes no sense that he looks like a brick shit-house.
They had their chance, Grant Gustin was already known when they picked Garfield.
PhoncipleBone
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Now Wozzly needs to write some poems that Ollie would write for Felicity.
And as for Superman being all jacked, what was he lifting to put on mass like that?
Isn't supes bench-pressing the earth in all-star superman?
Motherfucker was jacked when being hit by a train knocked him out.
Batman makes sense
Since he is supposed to be a human at its peak.
Superman on the other hand...
But when does Batman train?
He fights crime all night, has to keep an eye on Damien during the day, and monitor the internet usage in Watchtower to find out whether Cyborg is jerking off to Knight Rider repeats. I mean when does he find time for gains?
TheGreatDirector
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Um...not anymore.
As for being that ripped all the time it's just one of the faults of comic book logic.
Realistically, Batman would go out maybe once or twice a week and train the rest of the time if he were to maintain a body of that size and flexibility.
He also has to maintain his playboy facade.
Can't wait!!
I hope he talks in his luke skywalker voice
Freshmaker
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Flash tends to be relatively normal looking vs dudes like Superman or Lobo.
Should spoilers for episodes that already aired be in tags? If so, I'll add the tags, so please don't read the following.
I just finished watching episode 15 and 16 and ohhh shit, Out of Time (ep. 15) has got to be the best episode of the season for me. Great revelations, confrontations and mindfucks. Rogue Time was cool too seeing everything going to shit, only to (unfortunately) have a very clichéd happy ending. Anyway, so they're going to continuing with this second time-line, right? Too bad, I kinda hoped Barry returned to the first time-line after experiencing everything going to shit.
I just finished watching episode 15 and 16 and ohhh shit, Out of Time (ep. 15) has got to be the best episode of the season for me. Great revelations, confrontations and mindfucks. Rogue Time was cool too seeing everything going to shit, only to (unfortunately) have a very clichéd happy ending. Anyway, so they're going to continuing with this second time-line, right? Too bad, I kinda hoped Barry returned to the first time-line after experiencing everything going to shit.
unholyrevenger72
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Screen Junkies has laid down the Spoiler Etiquette for movies and television
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzOOPQSEOEg
PHOENIXZERO
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Don't need spoiler tags for episodes that have already aired. People should know better than to come in here during or after the episode if they haven't seen it yet and don't want to be spoiled.
BKatastrophe
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I like that.
unholyrevenger72
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It's called good genes, some people get the jack-diesel pumped looked with minimal effort. As for batman, he probably subscribes to the Kame school of training, all of his tuxedos and business suits probably weigh 100 kilos
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