Life is Strange | Spoiler Thread
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There is a typo on it, but its there.
damn
this is actually funny because that's the shit you do in the walking dead
OceanicAir
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I really wanted to put this all my thought's down of everything up to now for posterity's sake (and to avoid excessive amounts of spoiler text in the main thread) so here goes! The more I have thought about it and watched Twitch streams (including seeing the end of one with a DONTNOD employee!), the more I really have appreciated this episode. I already really liked it in the first place, especially since the bottle collecting was not exceptionally hard in my case (probably spent more time looking for the dang picture of the bus). The little things really stood out to me such as the fact that in ep. 1 there was a message on the answering machine of David telling Chloe not to go to the junkyard because it was dangerous and the teacher telling you to put the phone away if you look at it directly in class in the second episode were really nice touches.
My major decisions were looking for more proof, answering the phone call, not shooting Frank, saving Kate (Woooooo!!!!), and blaming Nathan.
Regarding the characters, I really think David is not a bad person but has absolutely dreadful interpersonal skills.
Victoria despite continuing to act like a jerk has a heart somewhere because I refuse to believe she was upset at the end of the episode over Nathan but rather the extent to which she pushed Kate. I didn't learn a whole from my experience with her though since I was nice to her friends (I really think it can be possible for something positive to come out of dealing with her)
Mr. Jefferson probably took the biggest blow in my mind with the way he was so callous towards Kate, so I really think he knows a lot more than I first thought. He could be the older man with Rachel the old lady was talking about since the lady knew who David was and I think she knew about Frank too.
Frank seems to know about Rachel, but getting the info out of him will be a monumental task.
Nathan can jump off the nearest bridge (although while I think he is responsible for a lot of terrible things I don't think that he is the mastermind behind any of it, but still, bridge).
Warren needs to calm down as I don't think that Max is interested, although I think points are being scored (helping with experiment, accepting invitation) for something. But if he doesn't stop creeping, Max is going to have to give a matching set to his black eye.
Much like with Warren, things are being scored with Chloe for something (taking blame for weed, answering Kate's call, shooting Frank) and also like Warren, she needs to calm down, I'm dealing with a suicidal friend and would prefer not to shoot somebody dang it. I also don't blame Chloe for her testing Max's powers as we see a lot more because we see it from Max's perspective and I would be insanely skeptical if someone told me they had time travel powers. I would most definitely want to play with them once I was sure too!
Samuel is a wild card, no idea what's his deal. Just that like a lot of people, he liked Rachel Amber.
Another thing I noticed is that there seems to be at least 5 different outcome to the last situation, Max, Mr. Jefferson, Nathan, David, or nobody can be suspended depending on who you blame and what decisions (took blame for weed and snitched on Nathan seem to be the influential ones) were made in the first episode.
Also, definitely no trailer for me next time, was waaaay too spoilery. I also don't care if it's in your plan or not DONTNOD but you better have Kate survive the future episodes. I also demand a scene with Kate in episode 3. I'm sad that the Vortex party isn't until Thursday aka episode 4. Lastly, I wonder how much the disappearance of Rachel, Kate and Chloe's drugging, Nathan, and Frank have to do with each other.
My major decisions were looking for more proof, answering the phone call, not shooting Frank, saving Kate (Woooooo!!!!), and blaming Nathan.
Regarding the characters, I really think David is not a bad person but has absolutely dreadful interpersonal skills.
Victoria despite continuing to act like a jerk has a heart somewhere because I refuse to believe she was upset at the end of the episode over Nathan but rather the extent to which she pushed Kate. I didn't learn a whole from my experience with her though since I was nice to her friends (I really think it can be possible for something positive to come out of dealing with her)
Mr. Jefferson probably took the biggest blow in my mind with the way he was so callous towards Kate, so I really think he knows a lot more than I first thought. He could be the older man with Rachel the old lady was talking about since the lady knew who David was and I think she knew about Frank too.
Frank seems to know about Rachel, but getting the info out of him will be a monumental task.
Nathan can jump off the nearest bridge (although while I think he is responsible for a lot of terrible things I don't think that he is the mastermind behind any of it, but still, bridge).
Warren needs to calm down as I don't think that Max is interested, although I think points are being scored (helping with experiment, accepting invitation) for something. But if he doesn't stop creeping, Max is going to have to give a matching set to his black eye.
Much like with Warren, things are being scored with Chloe for something (taking blame for weed, answering Kate's call, shooting Frank) and also like Warren, she needs to calm down, I'm dealing with a suicidal friend and would prefer not to shoot somebody dang it. I also don't blame Chloe for her testing Max's powers as we see a lot more because we see it from Max's perspective and I would be insanely skeptical if someone told me they had time travel powers. I would most definitely want to play with them once I was sure too!
Samuel is a wild card, no idea what's his deal. Just that like a lot of people, he liked Rachel Amber.
Another thing I noticed is that there seems to be at least 5 different outcome to the last situation, Max, Mr. Jefferson, Nathan, David, or nobody can be suspended depending on who you blame and what decisions (took blame for weed and snitched on Nathan seem to be the influential ones) were made in the first episode.
Also, definitely no trailer for me next time, was waaaay too spoilery. I also don't care if it's in your plan or not DONTNOD but you better have Kate survive the future episodes. I also demand a scene with Kate in episode 3. I'm sad that the Vortex party isn't until Thursday aka episode 4. Lastly, I wonder how much the disappearance of Rachel, Kate and Chloe's drugging, Nathan, and Frank have to do with each other.
You can see trough the deer too in that scene. Thought it was a bug, then i noticed the empty polaroid.
Loved this episode, even though the novelty has worn off (ep 1 was such a left field suprise!). It took a while to get going, but it ended on such a strong note. The whole suicide scene was so haunting, and made me feel so helpless. Shame the dialogue in that particular scene shifted in tone so much. Kate goes from upbeat after you say the right things, to downbeat imidiatly after because you need to say another nice word or two. Managed to save her though, what a relief that was!
I only hope they don't 'write her out' anyway. She is in the hospital now, so it is possible dontnod goes the easy way and does not feature kate anymore. Would be such a shame
Yeah, there were a few places throughout episode 2 where the dialogue was struggling with continuity based on previous decisions to change things. The earliest was some double reference to 'Snow', with replies acting like you didn't mention the word.
But, regardless, I'm enjoying it lots, and its going to be a tough wait for the next episode.
Seth Balmore
Member
I still have faith in Victoria redeeming herself eventually and through the right choices, even if she was a gigantic bitch in ep. 2. What can I say, I can't resist a tsundere.
OceanicAir
Member
Yeah, I saw but I don't know maybe she didn't think she would actually jump and was just in the moment with her public persona. From how being nice to Taylor lets you know that Victoria's friends aren't just doormats for her and but instead actually does care despite how mean she is makes me think there is more to her. Although I could be terribly wrong since she hangs around Nathan who think is an irredeemable jerk but #hopeforVictoria.
Been playing this with a few friends. So far its our surprise of the year. I'm a little lost on how Kate just decided to jump at the end, since we kinda got her happy and level headed, and then she's just like fuck it. Oh well, it'll make things more interesting later on I'm sure
Lionel Mandrake
Member
I'm really digging this game. Was pretty tense during the ending. Managed to save Kate though.
Seriously whoever chose the music for this game has an awesome taste.
Never in my life did I ever think I'd hear Jose Gonzalez, Alt J and Local Natives in the same game. Amazing!
I didn't save Kate, I have no idea what I did wrong
What on earth is up with Samuel the care takers voice? Guy creeps me out.
Really can't wait for ep 3, this game is turning into an out of nowhere surprise gem for me
Never in my life did I ever think I'd hear Jose Gonzalez, Alt J and Local Natives in the same game. Amazing!
I didn't save Kate, I have no idea what I did wrong
What on earth is up with Samuel the care takers voice? Guy creeps me out.
Really can't wait for ep 3, this game is turning into an out of nowhere surprise gem for me
petethepanda
Member
I wonder if the vastly different outcomes for Kate at the end of the episode will mean that she'll be largely sidelined going forward (to reduce the amount of dev time spent on entirely different scenes / story threads). Even the endings to this episode aren't very different outside of a couple lines and a shot or two. Wouldn't surprise me if saving her leads to her leaving the school early in the next episode or something along those lines.
I mean the episodes so far span only a single day each, it's safe to assume she'll stay in the hospital for the rest of the season. I'd be impressed if there was a phone call with her in ep3 but it'll probably just be texts.
Messofanego
Banned
I like that certain characters have been shown to still be assholes (Victoria, Nathan) while some who were thought of as irredeemable are not so bad (David, Principal, the other mean girls). Chloe doesn't completely lose it if you take Kate's call, so at least she has some sense.
So, people's allegiances are being tested every episode because of complex characters.
Agree, complexities like this in this game really set it apart from Telltale's stuff.!I love how the decisions are really ambiguous and not black and white at all, subjective in some cases too. I really want to put my faith behind all these characters, I don't know if I've been seeing things in the eyes of innocent Max for too long, but I hope they're all fairly good people by the end, and whatever ends up being the main antagonist is some supernatural thing/person.
I went back and forth on that, actually replayed it to change my answer, and I ended up not shooting him. Chloe is just not worth getting in trouble for, and she doesn't realize the gun is empty if you go that route anyway.
John Kowalski
Banned
There is a typo on it, but its there.
i have to admit that was the first thing i tried
slavesnyder
Member
I was so happy when the download was done and I could re-enter the strange life at Blackwell. Had a great time there and cannot wait to return.
Saved Kate and was a little disappointed I could not try out to let her jump afterwards.
Can she really die? Wow.
The who-to-blame-moment in the office was well-constructed. I had to make a pause and get a beer to think about with what decision I will have to live afterwards.
Chose the teacher. Why should I blame the boy whose father owns the school? This would not change anything. better stay silent and preper the big blow.
Loved the scene in the diner with guess what is in my pocket. Waited for a gollum-reference. and the 5 things to come. had to do this one 3 times until I realised I could actually look around and see the cockroach on the music box. stupid.
also watered my plant like a good girl, ordered waffles and watched Chloe getting shot 3 times by ricochet. so funny.
So far the game does a great job of hiding what is really going on. and I love that.
Dialogue issometimes cheesy but that fits well for me. It's high-school twin peaks after all.
Saved Kate and was a little disappointed I could not try out to let her jump afterwards.
Can she really die? Wow.
The who-to-blame-moment in the office was well-constructed. I had to make a pause and get a beer to think about with what decision I will have to live afterwards.
Chose the teacher. Why should I blame the boy whose father owns the school? This would not change anything. better stay silent and preper the big blow.
Loved the scene in the diner with guess what is in my pocket. Waited for a gollum-reference. and the 5 things to come. had to do this one 3 times until I realised I could actually look around and see the cockroach on the music box. stupid.
also watered my plant like a good girl, ordered waffles and watched Chloe getting shot 3 times by ricochet. so funny.
So far the game does a great job of hiding what is really going on. and I love that.
Dialogue issometimes cheesy but that fits well for me. It's high-school twin peaks after all.
Oldest_Ancient
Member
Bwahahaha that bumper trick shot. I was hoping for that so much.
Messofanego
Banned
It seems Dana was really the only person happy in Episode 2 XD
Finaika
Member
Glad to see someone made the same choice
I'm just afraid of the consequences of losing the gun...
It seems Dana was really the only person happy in Episode 2 XD
She's so bouncy.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
Member
#dead. I finally tore myself away from Bloodborne to complete the second ep. Still loving how atmospheric the game feels, it's that damned lighting I tell you. Looks wonderful. Loved the little homage to Groundhog Day in the diner with you having to successfully guess every little thing that occurs. There were a couple of tense moments where I thought the game was going to veer into one thing and didn't. I kept thinking Chloe's overzealous attitude with the gun was going to cause a bullet to ricochet and strike one of them, and the to shoot, or not to shoot made me wonder whether you could actually kill Frank... which would have been interesting.
Finally, really loved how all those little moments where you were given a chance to help Kate from afar came to the fore in helping to coax her off that ledge. That had me almost as tense as some of the bigger scenes in Heavy Rain. All in all, really great ep, I continue to really dig this quirky little cast of characters and the endearingly mundane circumstances that befall them (which sort of reminds me of Chronicle in a way)
slavesnyder
Member
Glad to see someone made the same choice
I'm just afraid of the consequences of losing the gun...
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I ried both scenarios and chose not to shoot. I felt more in line with Max's character.You lose the gun to him anyway. When you shoot there are no bullets left, he takes the gun but remembers you wanted to shoot him. If this will have real consequences I do not think. so no worries about that.
I wonder more what happens if you never water your plant...
slavesnyder
Member
Do you think Kate will appear again if you safe her? I think it's too complicated to script. She will leave hospital and go home to her family directly, sending a message, a postcard or giving a call. I would love to get a letter at least.
Those files you saw are in the garage at Chloe's house. David keeps files on the students because i think he suspects the Vortex Club is up to no good.
Dana's so adorableIt seems Dana was really the only person happy in Episode 2 XD
I will be very impressed if this action affects the storyline in any significant way. Ultimately though, I expect that whatever function she would have performed will be replaced by a different character. Hope I'm wrong though.
I've been following a few playthroughs on twitch, just to see how people got on with Ep2.
A common observation were those who weren't fully on-board after playing Episode 1 ('its slow', its boring', or 'not much happens' usually being being said), but completely came around by the end of Episode 2.
On the whole, everyone who arrives at 'that' point are shocked, but in markedly different ways. One group take the shock, and need levity and humour to help them cope afterwards.
But then there are those who had a high level of empathy for Kate, and appeared genuinely affected by her outcome, whether you saved her or not. There have been some interesting post game discussions about the bullying aspect depicted in the game.
I feel that for some people, 'Life is Strange' could become this years equivalent of 'Journey'.
LichtenbergFigures
Member
The only thing that bothers me really is sometimes the usage of rewind is restricted to fit the narrative.
Example is Chloe getting a foot stuck in the train tracks. A clever person would just rewind back to before they acted like dimwitted morons and instead explain to Chloe what will happen if they mess about on the tracks and they could then just walk next to tracks instead, which overall is far more sensible anyway. But to fit the narrative of the story, she HAS to get stuck so we HAVE to save her. (Frankly, if you're going to be so moronic as to lie down on a clearly frequently used railway you probably deserve to get squished anyway).
Example is Chloe getting a foot stuck in the train tracks. A clever person would just rewind back to before they acted like dimwitted morons and instead explain to Chloe what will happen if they mess about on the tracks and they could then just walk next to tracks instead, which overall is far more sensible anyway. But to fit the narrative of the story, she HAS to get stuck so we HAVE to save her. (Frankly, if you're going to be so moronic as to lie down on a clearly frequently used railway you probably deserve to get squished anyway).
Messofanego
Banned
There are moments to reverse like that. Like when you get an extra underlined dialogue option. But not for this specific moment, which was necessary for some drama I guess.
QuickSilverD
Member
that and you know people straight up telling us that they did in episode 1
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
Member
I find him to be very suspicious overall. Almost like all of the "bad" characters around him are just red herrings planted to draw attention away from him so that the game could have an OMG reveal later on
I think Victoria was completely complicit in the Kate video incident. Maybe she ended up drugging Kate just to "bring her down," not too different from her sexting incident just to fuck with Zach's relationship. She's had the smug satisfaction of watching Kate get torn down all this time. Either now she's had to witness how fucked up Kate's grasp on the situation is and is finally feeling the guilt, or she's secretly known about Nathan raping her and has been keeping it bottled in.
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Deleted member 80556
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Oh, damn, I should have said no. Now he probably thinks Max is into him.
More_Badass
Member
Just finished Episode 2 and I'm hooked. Probably my favorite narrative game so far, even more so than TWD. The mix of mundane small town mystery and fantastical elements is just so compelling
It's the first where I really felt like my choices came back to haunt me. I rewound and told the principal that nothing happened after hearing how Nathan's family were so influential, thinking that it probably be swept under the rug if the principal knew. And then I covered for Chloe about the blunt.
And then the end of Episode 2 came and those decisions made Max seem untrustworthy and unreliable when I blamed Nathan. Damn, I had never even considered the long-terms consequences of those decisions
If you take Kate's call in the diner, what changes?
It's the first where I really felt like my choices came back to haunt me. I rewound and told the principal that nothing happened after hearing how Nathan's family were so influential, thinking that it probably be swept under the rug if the principal knew. And then I covered for Chloe about the blunt.
And then the end of Episode 2 came and those decisions made Max seem untrustworthy and unreliable when I blamed Nathan. Damn, I had never even considered the long-terms consequences of those decisions
If you take Kate's call in the diner, what changes?
TheVampire
Banned
Yeah same im loving it.
Really like the town too. Kinda makes me wish I grew up in a place like that.
Are there any places on usa google maps I could street view like this town just to have a look? lol
Hmmm Manzanita, Oregon, United States looks kinda cool lol
More_Badass
Member
So what are the thoughts on the supernatural elements?
And does the end of Episode 2 supposed to mean that Max's time powers are expanding? Being able to pause time as well as rewind it?
Everything's going to come to a head on Friday, huh? Frank wants his money by then. The next Vortex Club party is on Friday. It's when the tornado hits.
And does the end of Episode 2 supposed to mean that Max's time powers are expanding? Being able to pause time as well as rewind it?
Everything's going to come to a head on Friday, huh? Frank wants his money by then. The next Vortex Club party is on Friday. It's when the tornado hits.
OceanicAir
Member
I've been doing the same! I've seen someone with a twitch name is similar to your gaf one in some of the streams calling people monsters lol (but it is you, you did definitely aware of who you should call monsters). But I definitely have seen people being visibly upset if Kate dies in their playthrough and pretty much everyone wishes that they did save her. I also haven't really seen anybody too negative on stream and they are largely excited for the next episode.
I've been thinking that more and more. It would also explain why Victoria hates Rachel so much since Victoria is a really likes (both intellectually and romantically) Mr. Jefferson.
I thought that Max had a mini-seizure before that moment though, I just assumed that it was too far back in time because Max's power for the most part doesn't seem to go too far back in time (I feel like it mostly falls between 5-10 minutes). But yeah lying down on a live train track was probably not the best choice.
The supernatural elements are still up in the air for me, there are a lot of them out there but I think that Native American culture and fate will have to do with how the story ultimately resolves.
I was thinking about the preview scene of the next episode and a thought occurred to me since I was having trouble thinking of a use of stopping time as opposed to reversing it. I was thinking that someone would nearly find you but you would stop time to get past them as opposed to not being able to rewind to a point when the person isn't chasing them. That is, of course, if Max can stop time (which I hope she can).
Also, I think the Vortex club party is on a Thursday, the 10th if I'm not mistaken.
Seth Balmore
Member
Speaking of the Vortex Club party, nothing TRULY critical can happen in it seeing as how getting an invitation is a totally optional thing, right? Right...?
I figure if Max can pull it off, it's a good oportunity to get more dirt on Nathan, find out more about Rachel, etc. I wonder if something major can/will happen there, though.
Yes, I missed the girl handling the invites completely. I'm terribly curious about what will happen there but I'll refrain from changing my choices.
I figure if Max can pull it off, it's a good oportunity to get more dirt on Nathan, find out more about Rachel, etc. I wonder if something major can/will happen there, though.
I'd wager if it is important they'll create more opportunities. LIke instead of you getting invited yourself in episode 2 you might get stuck with someone else bringing you in whatever episode it takes place in, or sneaking in. Or the party won't happen. No way they're creating enough content to leave a lot of people out of it, save big stuff like maybe a scene with Kate if you saved her.
Seth Balmore
Member
That's what I thought too, that Max might end up getting roped in somehow and will get different chances depending on whether she got a legit invite or snuck in there.
As for the party not happening at all - that whole "end of the world" theme seems ominous as hell. Gah, May can't come soon enough.
Daria Morgendorffer
Member
I hope I'm not the only one who was expecting
That'd have been even more fucked up.
Chloe to look like Rachel at the end.
The Dear Leader
Banned
That ending is insane. The wait for Ep. 4 is going to hurt.
Seriously. Argghhh another number of months to go.