The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c
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brotkasten
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What's the deal with the Daredevil OT subtitle? I don't get it.
He probably wants her to find out at this point given how things went in the "first" timeline.
I wonder if we'll get to see that timeline later on as an alternate history/multiverse thing. Get to see a Barry from a timeline where the city got destroyed by a tidal wave and Iris, Joe, and Cisco are all dead.
Wiktor
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There was nothing to talk since DD still has couple days to air, so people started to talk about Flash. And a mod was in a funny mood
Mr. Fantastic
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Is Flash the greatest superhero show ever created?
Simply an astonishing show. Dat house brawl.
Simply an astonishing show. Dat house brawl.
Would they though? Wouldn't that only make sense in a situation where everyone else is on the current timeline but Wells?
If everything is reset, he'd still be the guy creating S.T.A.R. Labs, still be creating the particle accelerator, still be (potentially) hiring them, and still be the person in charge.
Admiral Woofington
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Wait for Daredevil. The hype is strong and early reviews have been praising it high and low.Is Flash the greatest superhero show ever created?
Simply an astonishing show. Dat house brawl.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
It's not worthwhile trying to compare the shows to determine what the best superhero show is. Besides, it's pretty subjective anyway. There are people who'd claim Agents of Shield or Gotham is the best comic book show on right now.
But by design, I don't think Daredevil is going to be as crazy and ambitious a show as the Flash.
Poodlestrike
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We're treading dangerously close to getting this thread renamed like the other one, but... I've got 0 hype for Daredevil. Sounds like another House of Cards; well put together, praised high and low, but so dark and miserably cynical to render it entirely unenjoyable. For me, anyway. No idea how the rest of you stomach it.
I think it's safe to say that Flash is the best comic fan's show at the moment. It has not pulled back any punches in terms of content straight from the pages of the comic book.
My biggest issue with Smallville back in the day was the "freak of the week" setup that barely tapped into Superman's rich legacy. This obviously improved and by the end, it felt less like Smallville and more like Superman.
I share similar concerns with Gotham, albeit they have the opposite problem of ramming nods and winks down our throat with ultimately no real payoff.
From the get go, we got a Flash show with Flash villains and Flash type storylines.
My biggest issue with Smallville back in the day was the "freak of the week" setup that barely tapped into Superman's rich legacy. This obviously improved and by the end, it felt less like Smallville and more like Superman.
I share similar concerns with Gotham, albeit they have the opposite problem of ramming nods and winks down our throat with ultimately no real payoff.
From the get go, we got a Flash show with Flash villains and Flash type storylines.
Poodlestrike
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Oh, lord. They are just going a million miles per hour with this thing.
Which is entirely appropriate.
Yeah, just watch and enjoy all that you can and avoid the ones you don't like. Personally I like most of the comic show other than Gotham which I've not seen.
I'd be complaining if they weren't doing it so effectively. The only thing I could be sad about is that they might run out of compelling content by S3 or 4 at this rate.
Miles Quaritch
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I'm more and more convinced this season is going to end with a Flashpoint type scenario and the resolution will be Barry coming back to his time-line but weaker as Raistlin suggested.
A sort of reboot to his powers.
Or maybe the second season will follow future Barry as he tries to get back to his own time line? Now wouldn't that be something...
Messypandas
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I have a feeling since they're showboating the fact Barry's in a new suit in the "flashback" (hur hur) that it doesn't happen for a while. I mean, the newspaper was from like 2020 right? Unless Barry is getting a new suit by the end of the season.
Miles Quaritch
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I could see Cisco knocking up a new suit/presenting Barry with a new suit in the finale. One that better works with his newly unlocked powers?
brotkasten
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I thought Barry would definitely get a new suit by the end of the season? Cisco made two or three suits, right? And Barry is already on his second, iirc.
BKatastrophe
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But has there been anything to suggest that Barry's current suit isn't working with his current abilities? Unless it somehow improves his abilities, there's no reason for it.
Messypandas
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I'm not saying a new suit isn't possible, just I feel that they are implying its an older Barry that has that suit. It also blows my mind that Barry is building up to this fight, and its already in Wells past. Kinda funny.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
One of the best things this show has pulled off is the nuance to Wells' villainy. This is a guy who literally has to create and build-up his own enemy. For his plan to succeed, he actually needs Barry at his most powerful.
Miles Quaritch
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This is what I thought. I vaguely remember him saying he made three suits.
Well he's come a long way since the first suits, so it's unreasonable to think that Cisco would hit the drawing board and make a new suit that's more aerodynamic and suited to his phasing abilities?
How does this work? Wouldn't everything that's happening now be new for Wells/Eoabard? He's accelerated everything, so wouldn't his fight with Barry be completely different this time round?
I hate time travel sometimes.
Well, also keep in mind that the Flash from Wells' future probably came about later on, since he talked about speeding up development on the accelerator. If Barry's mom didn't die, he wouldn't become a forensic tech, he'd probably be a scientist if I had to guess.
Messypandas
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Hmm I'm not sure. But it is in Wells past. Flash has yet to be there as an adult. When Flash time traveled, he "over-rided" his previous self and arrived on the exact same spot. If Wells thinks Barry is too stronk maybe he's also going to go back in time and "override" Eobard?
The Technomancer
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Would that be the end of the world? A 4 season Flash show would be fine by me
NotTheGuyYouKill
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It'd be hilarious if during the Trickster episode, Barry phased both the bomb, and his suit off when he ran through the truck.
They should have done that.
Admiral Woofington
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I love the punisher and non super power heroes so I don't mind. This one seems to be half detective show half badass fight scenes. But yeah it won't try to appeal to comic book fans as much maybe. Seems to be going for the dark knight tone. which I was a bit tired of but reviews have me hyped. Regardless I love each show for different reasons.
Nah, it'd be magnificent.
I do like the idea of having a Future/Present Flash Season post Hypothetical Flashpoint Paradox with episodes jumping between the two timelines. You know, like LOST but good.
Miles Quaritch
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Yeah, I hate time travel.
I do like the idea of Wells going back in time to change things if he's losing to Barry though, that sounds like a very interesting way to weaken Barry so he's not just owning rogues left and right as we enter season 2.
Ah, now I'm bummed that didn't happen. Would have been the perfect opportunity to introduce the need for a new suit too.
She was the only person writing about him or trying to expose his existence. I don't think it's too far a stretch to say that a "mystery man" would want to talk to the one person that seems to know he exists.
I agree that she should have some suspicion, and that Patton's answer about Iris believing Barry would never lie to her covers why she isn't more suspicions of his odd behavior. But some fans act like she should have known almost instantly upon their first conversation and I don't think that's reasonable. Especially when it's not like there's a pattern of other characters figuring it out, since pretty much everyone who knows was told.
If everyone could just stare at Barry in his mask and know instantly who he is, there's no point to the mask. It's silly to us, but in universe, his mask conceals his identity.
Also kudos to the writers on Flash not constantly lampshading the disguise like the team on Arrow. Yes, in real life everyone would instantly recognize Oliver Queen as the Arrow, but you really ought to treat the disguise as believable in your show.
He didn't mask his voice or face right in front of Eddie once. He's confronted his enemies using his regular voice in front the very police officers he works with. Not defending the writing in those cases, just using them to say that no one expects those characters, who have roughly the same amount of information to go on as Iris, to have pieced it together.
Messypandas
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So I was going through the old synopsis', and remembered that this guy
Could drain Flash of his abilities and Wells took a sample of his dna at the end. So is the story basically, Wells can't time travel anymore so he's building Flash up to a level where he can travel freely through time and then use that guys blood to steal Barrys power? Or am I just slow and everyone knew this.
Could drain Flash of his abilities and Wells took a sample of his dna at the end. So is the story basically, Wells can't time travel anymore so he's building Flash up to a level where he can travel freely through time and then use that guys blood to steal Barrys power? Or am I just slow and everyone knew this.
Deadstarone
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This Eobard has probably never experienced this scenario before. Reverse Flash in the comics has better time travel capabilities. He can create alternate timelines without much far-reaching temporal consequence (i.e. Flashpoint).
From the future where he originates, Reverse Flash could travel to any future point in Barry's timeline and fight with him, that's why he said "We've been at this a long time". That pissed off, older, experienced Eobard is the one who decided to say fuck it, I'm going back to when you were a kid and killing you. Future Flash follows him, saves himself, and then leaves Eobard stranded in the past when no Speed Force exists at all.
If Eobard makes it back to the future with his knowledge of these events intact THEN everyone is probably fucked.
I'm still a little confused on Thawne. The last episode suggests that he lost his powers when he got stranded back in time. So how did he get his speed back to be able to steal the tachyon generator thing that, apparently, recharges his speed?
I guess you could say he got a little bit from residual speed force nonsense due to Barry being around, but needs the generator to have a more steady supply.
I guess you could say he got a little bit from residual speed force nonsense due to Barry being around, but needs the generator to have a more steady supply.
Deadstarone
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Yeah, that's my understanding of it. As soon as Barry became the Flash and started running, he started generating Speed Force that Thawne could tap into. Regaining his power little by little. The tachyon device was just something that could give him a temporary boost in speed.
Jest Chillin
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Did Eobard actually lose his speed or just lose the ability to travel through time with his speed?
https://twitter.com/CW_TheFlash/status/585187433295130624
The flash twitter account just posted the wondercon trailer which is an extended version of the trailer we got at the end of the last episode with even more new scenes added.
Here's the youtube link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NojgY48FOHE
The flash twitter account just posted the wondercon trailer which is an extended version of the trailer we got at the end of the last episode with even more new scenes added.
Here's the youtube link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NojgY48FOHE
So many scenes in that trailer are going to be from
the shapeshifter episode
Sorry SnowBarry fans.
Also it seems
Wells will be (temporarily?) locked up, probably as a result of episodes 19 or 20: Who is Harrison Wells? and The Trap.
Only fools who don't realize that Killer Frost long predates Frozen. Won't be an issue.
Oh my sweet jeesus. I can't handle this.
Deadstarone
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PHOENIXZERO
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I do wonder what route they'll take with Killer Frost, will they do the old origin or the current origin that could tie into Arrow?
2024, Cisco made I think three of the current suit and Barry is on the last one. Next season I would expect an updated suit... Also goes in with the potential other changes.
Hype hype hype!
That's been what I've expected for months now and I do think it makes sense to scale Barry back a bit next season, especially with how they're building up Barry's saving his mom and the fallout that should come from that.
2024, Cisco made I think three of the current suit and Barry is on the last one. Next season I would expect an updated suit... Also goes in with the potential other changes.
Hype hype hype!
TheGreatDirector
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Yoooooo that got me hyped!!
This show's gonna be intense for the last couple of episodes.
More_Badass
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That's probably the shapeshifter in his cell taunting Barry or something
unholyrevenger72
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Ummm, the Snow Queen was published in 1844...
Could be that too.
Although the episode description doesn't mention him taking Wells' form which is why I didn't jump to him, so far Eddie, Iris, Caitlin and Flash are confirmed shapeshifts.
The person said Frozen, not the source material. Either way it's going to be a poor comparison.
BKatastrophe
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I'm not saying there's no reason for it ever. I'm saying that no reason exists right now, at this point in the story. The suit hasn't proven problematic to Barry's abilities yet, so unless it improves his abilities somehow, there's no reason for it. We'll get new suits, no doubt. Just not right now.
Plus, no one knows how Speed Force works (gif appropriate), and Cisco doesn't understand Barry's abilities yet. It'll be some time before Barry gets a new suit. I'd bank on next season, no sooner no later.
It's a good point to bring up, but Speed Force is an energy, so unless Eobard could use it to drain the actual energy, it's not really useful. Pretty sure it was just an unforeseen complication. This scenario makes far more sense now that we learned that Eobard bumped up the time table. This means that he can't be all knowing, since 5 years creates a whole new set of variables.So I was going through the old synopsis', and remembered that this guy
Could drain Flash of his abilities and Wells took a sample of his dna at the end. So is the story basically, Wells can't time travel anymore so he's building Flash up to a level where he can travel freely through time and then use that guys blood to steal Barrys power? Or am I just slow and everyone knew this.
His connection with the Speed Force was severed. Time travel is tied to his mastery over Speed Force.
In short: He lost his speed, since he needs his speed to time travel.
Nabs
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Why is this show so gooood?
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