The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c

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He turned into one of those villains that get away with things because the other characters become buffoons at the most inappropriate times..
 
I would say the latter. We still see him using speed powers, he just doesn't have enough "juice" to time travel.


I thought he lost his speed too. I figured that when future Barry left the past, that severed the speed force, and Thawne had nothing to tap into. Once Barry got his powers, the speed force was reborn, and Thawne could tap into it again, though unreliably while Barry's powers were in their infancy. The faster Barry goes, the stronger the speed force becomes and the more Thawne can tap into it, until he's strong enough to return to the future.
 
I would say the latter. We still see him using speed powers, he just doesn't have enough "juice" to time travel.

This isn't quite correct. He lost his powers after the fight. Barry pretty much said "fuck off Thawne" and let him in the past. There was no speedforce then (since it comes from Barry), and as such he had nothing to tap into. Hence why he took Wells' place, he needed that shit to happen sooner. Once Barry got his powers, he could kind of tap into his powers, but not fully.

These breaks are really irritating but they kill it every time they come back

Real talk, CW has so many breaks they shouldn't have winter breaks for their shows.
 
Or follow the ABC route and end the first half of the season in December and then start back up in March when the only breaks are either due to holidays or other events that would preempt a show.
 
Anyone else hope wells will stay with the cast and Barry will change his fate? I know it is unlikely but i have grown find of the main cat and it will be awkward to lose some of them for the finale
except Iris.
 
Or follow the ABC route and end the first half of the season in December and then start back up in March when the only breaks are either due to holidays or other events that would preempt a show.

Or better.go full ABC and squeeze mini series into that break :D
 
That too and it seems like a good place to fit in the spin off.

That spin-off will be regular show most likely. plus they will want to do crossovers, so it would be hard.
That space would be best for some crazier/more risky projects. If they fail..hey...you still have a fun little mini series to sell worldwide and if they succeed then based on how much success they had you could turn them into 13 episodes summer show or 20+ episode regular show.
 
Anyone else hope wells will stay with the cast and Barry will change his fate? I know it is unlikely but i have grown find of the main cat and it will be awkward to lose some of them for the finale
except Iris.
If what we're hearing is the case, Cisco will be the only one left on the team, & he'll be out in the field with Barry as Vibe.
 
Real talk, CW has so many breaks they shouldn't have winter breaks for their shows.

It's not just CW, every broadcast network has to stretch their 20+ episodes long seasons into 30+ weeks. For example, CBS always takes the month of March off because of March Madness, FOX has had Gotham on a 5 week break, etc. It may seem like CW takes a lot of unnecessary breaks if you only watch cable networks, but it's just the norm for broadcast networks.
 
It's not just CW, every broadcast network has to stretch their 20+ episodes long seasons into 30+ weeks. For example, CBS always takes the month of March off because of March Madness, FOX has had Gotham on a 5 week break, etc. It may seem like CW takes a lot of unnecessary breaks if you only watch cable networks, but it's just the norm for broadcast networks.

Argh, can't believe gonna say this

But I hope people learn from Agents of SHIELD/Agent Carter, do like a mini or something to fill in the gaps so it doesn't lose momentum.

Granted, not every show can have that

I'm hoping that's what the CW uses Flash/Arrow spin-off for next season.

Like a 5 week event Tues/Wedn double episodes
 
I find it funny that Eddie now thinks that Barry has both super speed and a mental problem that causes uncontrollable mood swings and behaviors.
 
I find it funny that Eddie now thinks that Barry has both super speed and a mental problem that causes uncontrollable mood swings and behaviors.


The look he gave in that episode made it seem like he didn't quite believe it. I'd rather he freak out a little, considering he punched a guy that could run him up a tall building and let go.
 
Anyone else hope wells will stay with the cast and Barry will change his fate? I know it is unlikely but i have grown find of the main cat and it will be awkward to lose some of them for the finale
except Iris.

I honestly hope it does not become a clone of Arrow where everyone on the team eventually becomes a superhero.
 
I find it funny that Eddie now thinks that Barry has both super speed and a mental problem that causes uncontrollable mood swings and behaviors.

That "lightning psychosis" thing was just a silly way to reset the storyline to pre-time travel and act as an excuse to stage that hilarious cringe scene with Barry and Iris. The whole thing was deliberately comic so no one is taking it seriously as canon. I guarantee it won't ever be mentioned again.
 
It's a shame that we aren't watching a new episode of the flash as we speak. Having to wait an extra week is almost torture at this point.
 
So, re-watching the last episode currently and I didn't notice before that Axel/Trickster II is 25, putting him as being born in 1990, the year the first Flash series started.

Also, I think I'm on board with the idea they'll keep Tom Cavanagh by Barry changing the past, maybe inadvertently after realizing he can't save his mom but whatever he does alters the past ends up saving the real Wells and maybe his wife. The only wrinkle in the idea with the particle accelerator and the role its role in the show so far. Thing is though going by what Eobard said there wasn't an accident in 2020 so as I (and others obviously) assumed it wasn't originally responsible for giving Barry his powers, it's still entirely possible he got them in 2014 but with Eobard doing what he did he "super charged" the lightning bolt to speed up Barry's gaining access to the Speed Force which is entirely in line with his goals and Eobard would know how to artificially access the Speed Force from past experience, only thing is maybe in doing so he maybe activated the meta gene in people in Central City sooner but was also something that was going to happen anyway.

I feel like I'm rambling now, time for bed...

Oh godamnit what is up with these breaks?

Gives more time for production but mainly because networks want to generally end shows with 20+ episodes in May because of sweeps.
 
Okay, my mind has been blown. John Wesley Shipp was the original Flash? I thought the Mark Hamill thing was awesome but this one is just crazy.
 
Obviously the crew at Star labs will eventually figure out Wells was killed by Thawne, and his identity and who knows what else consumed by him.

If Wells is somehow still in there, do you think it's possible for them to use that splicer device used by Ronnie to separate himself from the old dude (Wells idea btw, fishy?), on Wells to split the two of them. I know they weren't fused together, but I just don't think the show will get rid of Wells and he certainly can't stick around when everyone knows he's Thawne.

I believe Wells is still in there, and it's not just a "costume" that Thawne is wearing.

Maybe my theory isn't completely right but I have a feeling Thawne is not 100% in control.
 
they'll probably find records of the DNA/fingerprints of Wells and then see his current ones and then the lights go dark in the room. Lips slowly go towards Barry's ear and whisper "it was me all along. Barry"
 
Obviously the crew at Star labs will eventually figure out Wells was killed by Thawne, and his identity and who knows what else consumed by him.

If Wells is somehow still in there, do you think it's possible for them to use that splicer device used by Ronnie to separate himself from the old dude (Wells idea btw, fishy?), on Wells to split the two of them. I know they weren't fused together, but I just don't think the show will get rid of Wells and he certainly can't stick around when everyone knows he's Thawne.

I believe Wells is still in there, and it's not just a "costume" that Thawne is wearing.

Maybe my theory isn't completely right but I have a feeling Thawne is not 100% in control.

Interesting hypothesis, although I have to disagree. Ronnie and Stein could be separated because they were literally fused together on an atomic level. As far as we know, all Eobard is doing is imitating his likeness and probably using Gideon to scrounge up any research papers from the future he can use to make the big breakthroughs that Wells did and then just play them off as his own.
 
Wells ain't in there. Thawne is just smart and from the future, while also having access to future documents, so creating the Firestorm separation device can easily be explained away as either Thawne's own invention or the device having been created later in history and he has access to how to build it. It's just a mask.
 
Aussielo has some new spoilers for The Flash and a bit on the crossover spin-off.
- There are no flies on Iris, who will very quickly glean that Eddie is hiding something from her. (And when she finds out about all who have lied to her? Think: angry + devastated.)
- The Grodd episode promises to be scarier — and funnier — than you might imagine.
- The inclusion of Captain Cold and Heat Wave in the Arrow/Flash spinoff series will affect The Flash’s storyline toward season’s end – and is one of the reasons Cold learned the Flash’s secret identity.
 
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