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Bloodborne |OT+++| ...and so the Nightly Hunt continues
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Veritigo_X
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For Chalice Dungeons, I've read on the wiki there's a Isz Chalice as well as a Great Isz Chalice. I've only gotten the Great Isz Chalice from a boss drop (E
) but never got the regular one. Is there actually two different ones or is the wiki wrong?
brietas
I agree, it is poorly done in that regard. At least make it available in NG+ for a bunch of insight or something from the vendors.
FF Seraphim
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That bit me in the ass early in the game with those two wolves who chased me into the sewers... this is why I am hesitant to run instead of killing everything...
InternHertz
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you can get to that point in ng+ in less than an hour. happened to me, but it's not that big of an issue
also it's only one dungeon that you're locked out of
yea, I beat her first try in NG and NG+, she's a bit too predictable for me. i had trouble with SoY in both NG/NG+. i hate having to keep track of them.
no sweat, i'm only playing Chalice for the trophy. doubt i'll bother with the other dungeons after i Plat.
Turns out I had 2 18% ones, and one 19,8%. Not really complaining, still get a pretty big boost
locking away content behind obtuse as shit stuff is like souls 101.
OniBarubary
Banned
I'd agree that as far as bosses go, he's rather boring.
But as far as lore, atmosphere and design being subtle and perfect? I'd say he's one of the best "concepts" I've seen.
Him just...laying there til you hit him. Then running away and summoning spiders who always have their back to him and follow him around and not attacking you unless you draw close. It just all fit together so well to tell an incredible story about this boss.
til he shot an ice meteor at my brain
It is fortunate that almost all of my points are invested in VIT/SKL, but I'm really enjoying the challenge. The bosses feel much more like the proper level of difficulty. I have two more left before Platinum, but I'm going to finish them all off eventually.
Pthumerian Descendent
That boss was pretty hard for me as well. Just adopted the old diving at its right leg tactic.
i love his boss room too. it's so different and such a contrast to the rest of the game.
the fact that his blades can go through pillars made that boss suck
I think the best order for that is
the super aggresive sword guy first and then the other fire guy. The triple fireball guy is pretty helpless if you keep stunlocking him. Just watch his moves and be careful there.
Dusktildawn48
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So I had trouble with a certain boss in the chalice but that was 30 levels ago in my first playthrough. I'm on ng+ now and if I would go to the boss will I basically dominate him? They don't scale correct?
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
lmao at my dumb ass. 23 hours into the game and I just now figured out I can sprint/jump by holding down the O button lol. I'm coming for your ass now
Rom
they don't scale. you should be able to destroy the early dungeons no problem.
I agree in principle. Thing is that my cane can also swing around the pillars so that glitch was the only thing keeping me honest. That he can throw them through the pillars is total crap.
i usually just back away once or twice during her swipes and stay to one side of her. she's pretty easy to avoid that way. try it out if you ever have another rematch.
yea, once you get him down to a sliver of life, he has a move that stunlocks you and takes you out in one hit. it ruined me twice in a row and i ended up summoning lol
yeah i meant the throw, especially since then you can't even see his wind up
Sweet. Thank you.
Machinehead
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just isn't much fun to explore. I got to
but decided to explore more, as I knew I had missed a lot in the
. Found
; hated her magic, but I was able to beat her anyway.
Now to see if there is anything besides this shortcut and some clothes and runes that I've missed. Can't wait to leave here though.
orbidden Woods
ROM
woods
Yosefka
Now to see if there is anything besides this shortcut and some clothes and runes that I've missed. Can't wait to leave here though.
If you have Beast Roar and the stats to use it, you can knock them over pretty well. Gives some breathing room when you're swarmed
Primethius
Banned
Use a Shaman Bone Blade if you have. Apparently it works on this boss and will make the fight much easier.
Deified Data
Banned
New build: strength focus with arcane supplement. Did you guys find the arcane artifacts very useful? My first character was only ever able to wield one (
).
the one that transforms you into a messenger
OniBarubary
Banned
Another build I wanna try. Full arcane. Just see how much I can use those spells and explode things.
Is there anywhere specific I can get ATK% gems? The kind that increase physical and elemental damage, they are ridiculous for Tonitrus. I got a 15% one somewhere, and a weaker one through one of the forest shortcuts.
Might need to get my hands on a Lost Tonitrus, but it won't be necessary if I can find the right gems. I think I'm first going to progress NG+ a bit and amass a ton of echoes for leveling, chalice dungeons seem to get utterly ridiculous past depth 3. Are Ailing Loran and Isz pretty bad compared to Lower Pthumeru?
One more thing I just want to say is how much this game's enemy hunter fights remind me of Armored Core. I never got that impression from the Souls games but the quick dash you do while locked on in Bloodborne is totally similar to how ACs move. On top of that, landing hits with guns and the way they stagger when hit is reminiscent of those games. While fighting some of them I kept thinking of trying to land railgun hits on White Glint.
Might need to get my hands on a Lost Tonitrus, but it won't be necessary if I can find the right gems. I think I'm first going to progress NG+ a bit and amass a ton of echoes for leveling, chalice dungeons seem to get utterly ridiculous past depth 3. Are Ailing Loran and Isz pretty bad compared to Lower Pthumeru?
One more thing I just want to say is how much this game's enemy hunter fights remind me of Armored Core. I never got that impression from the Souls games but the quick dash you do while locked on in Bloodborne is totally similar to how ACs move. On top of that, landing hits with guns and the way they stagger when hit is reminiscent of those games. While fighting some of them I kept thinking of trying to land railgun hits on White Glint.
Shadow Ranger
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Didn't really think this was doable haha. I haven't beaten him yet but was just just sucking up the damage (it was minor) on my current attempts. Got him to about 5% left and ran out of vials.
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The two most useful artifacts only require 15 Arcane. I think every character should get Arcane to this level at least.
WhiskerFrisker
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Used correctly,装甲悪鬼村正;159186805 said:
Beast roar
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Yeah I guess, but 20 Arcane is a more significant investment for something that is more situational.
Can't say no to a generic DO MORE DAMAGE -buff. Doing more damage is always good.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I am in depth 4 and this guy is no fucking joke.
Tevious
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I only got co-op to work once. They need to add a matchmaking feature. The way it is now, is just awful. Maybe progress should count for both people too.
I've been using something like this but focused more on arcane. It would work well with Tonitrus which has high strength scaling. As for the hunter tools/artifiacts they aren't amazing but I've found some uses for them.
The bone is kinda cool. It improves your dodge briefly at the cost of a lot of bullets. I have heard high arcane extends the duration but that might be bullshit?
Haven't tried the choir bell - it apparently heals your summoned guys. No idea for how much. Doesn't work when solo at all, it's greyed out.
The damage-dealing ones just seem to do pitiful amounts of damage even with high arcane. I haven't reached 40 yet so I can't use the final tool but the others didn't do much. Executioners' gloves were still useful in NG - I could two-shot those brain things for 3 bullets each. Tiny Tonitrus was alright in a couple situations, namely a boss that swarms you with small bolt-weak enemies. But in later chalice dungeons or NG+ I can't see these being useful - the second enemy I ran across in NG+ seemed to have over 1200 hp. Tentacle face item was hitting things for like 190, not even worth using.
Beast roar is situational. I've had success with it on enemy hunters or getting dogs off of me. Now that I think about it, I bet it'd be nice for spider swarms summoned by those bell bitches in chalice dungeons.
The empty shell adds a flat 80 damage to your weapon and is reusable - also looks cool. Problem is it won't work on elemental weapons or mixed weapons like Tonitrus. Doesn't scale with arcane either, so going past the 15 you need to use it won't help.
Not an artifact but I found an 'arcane sprayer' gun near the end of the game called Rosmarinus. It seems to do pretty great damage at +8 and doesn't eat bullets all that fast. I could see this coming in handy.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Use the environment for sure, there is a huge tombstone looking thing in the corner that is great to use to break them up. I would personally go in this order
Fireball guy, Candle/Torch guy, Sword guy
-Pyromaniac-
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kirkhammer becomes super beast later on
key moves are definitely the jump attack with it and the charge up does insane damage.
ScottSullivan
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Gotcha thanks for the help, almost doesn't seem worth it for some optional dialogue lol
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Try the holy sword once you unlock it. I also thought the hammer was slow compare to the axe, which is prob slower than the saw cleaver as well. The holy sword is pretty good once you get used to it. It has a longer reach as a straight sword and transforming it to great sword can deal a good amount of dmg with longer reach as well. The great sword form is a little bit faster than the hammer however.
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