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[Zafir]

I'll try this again:

Why can't I summon more than 1 guest? What do I have to do to summon 2 guests?
The bell is unusable after I ring it for the first time.
Is there a way to summon one human guest and a NPC guest? I tried it and it didn't work...

Are you sure that isn't because you don't need to ring it a second time?

I've not used the beckoning bell myself, but when I've joined other peoples games to help them, another person has joined without them doing anything. You may have to wait a bit though.

 

[Frodo]

You wait longer. Once you ring the bell it continually searches until you get two helpers or you leave an area/attempt a boss.

Oh, cool! Thanks!

So if I want to summon a NPC guest and a human I should ring the bell in the area close to the NPC and wait. Will that work?

 

[Veggy]

which weapon is good besides axe?

Ludwig's blade or blade of mercy?

thanks.

Ludwig's makes the game a lot easier

 

[Majmun]

I dunno I never lost to Gherman. It could always be a glitch but if that is the same dialogue, perhaps it could be more than coincidence.

Found out it's the dialog that starts after you get killed by the

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machine gun hunter

from Old Yharnam...

 

[Agram]

Oh, cool! Thanks!

So if I want to summon a NPC guest and a human I should ring the bell in the area close to the NPC and wait. Will that work?

Yes

 

[Frodo]

Yes

Thanks! Good to know.

So I guess my problem is poor match making, because I tried waiting before but it didn't work. Anyway... thanks guys.

 

[mekes]

Seems every player I'm coming up against in pvp aren't expecting the messengers gift, even got a backstab!

 

[HTVfanatic]

Is anyone using

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Logarius' Wheel

? I've been thinking about using it, but I don't want to invest in it if its not that great.

 

[Sullichin]

That attack really got me because he never did it during the entire fight until that point. The upload would be helpful.

The upload finished. Watching again it's funny that I'm healing like every 3 seconds. Not a very elegant fight and I made it with one vial left.

Defiled Watchdog

 

[Risgroo]

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Ignore the spiders, hit him with your strongest attacks on his sides. You can attack while he's still teleporting. Run to his new spot and repeat. Run very far away when he does his AOE attacks and then run back in.

Buff with bolt paper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVxtxyZLeOI , skip to 1 minute to see how to reliably dodge the arcane missiles.
If you go slow and steady youll be 100% safe, if you ignore spiders and try to rush you need some luck.

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Stack arcane defense through armor and runes and use bolt paper for extra damage. Kill the spiders at the beginning, then ignore the spiders after you reach the stage where Rom starts attacking.

Alright, thanks

 

[Agram]

Thanks! Good to know.

So I guess my problem is poor match making, because I tried waiting before but it didn't work. Anyway... thanks guys.

Not just yours problem, a lot of people have a hard time summoning or joining other players.
Maybe a patch will fix the issues.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Is there any reason to keep my Insight high? Enemies are starting to change in a way I don't like! I'll adjust if there is some benefit to it though. Try to keep the answer spoiler free. Thanks.

 

[Primethius]

Is there any reason to keep my Insight high? Enemies are starting to change in a way I don't like! I'll adjust if there is some benefit to it though. Try to keep the answer spoiler free. Thanks.

If you don't like the changes, I don't think so. Just spend it all buying bolt/fire paper.

 

[matrixman92]

i dont get it.

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Rom

in the chalice dungeon is so fucking difficult. Towards the end, it is impossible to get near him. Either with meteors coming from the sky, or the meteors coming from the ground. The ones from the ground instakill me and I am level 90 something. Also been having the adds kill me in 2 rapid hits where its impossible to avoid the second one because of some kind of stun

 

[cslesce]

I'll try this again:

Why can't I summon more than 1 guest? What do I have to do to summon 2 guests?
The bell is unusable after I ring it for the first time.
Is there a way to summon one human guest and a NPC guest? I tried it and it didn't work...

Something weird happened to me, i summoned and got 2 guests which we killed Amelia very quickly, they both attacked her in front, i just threw oil + molotov at her

For NPC quest there's only Alfred to help you?

 

[Heel]

i dont get it.

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Rom

in the chalice dungeon is so fucking difficult. Towards the end, it is impossible to get near him. Either with meteors coming from the sky, or the meteors coming from the ground. The ones from the ground instakill me and I am level 90 something. Also been having the adds kill me in 2 rapid hits where its impossible to avoid the second one because of some kind of stun

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Hide behind pillars to avoid the meteors. Lure and fight spiders behind the pillars until they're cleared. Get to the closest pillar outside of his ground splash attack, and run at him as soon as a sky attack ends, attacking from the side. Equip health and stamina ruins, too. Tedious, but worked for me at the same level as you.

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

Question- Is there any sidequest I should clear before killing

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ROM

?

I rescued all 4 NPCs already if that matters.

 

[noomi]

if they announce a house of wolves release date today with new info/trailer/teaser I fully expect this thread to go insane.... you all better go insane.... I mean it!

*edit*

wrong thread :/ I suffer from to many tabs

 

[cslesce]

if they announce a house of wolves release date today with new info/trailer/teaser I fully expect this thread to go insane.... you all better go insane.... I mean it!

what's that?

 

[AkuMifune]

If you don't like the changes, I don't think so. Just spend it all buying bolt/fire paper.

There has to be some other use for it that we don't understand yet. It feels like a wasted mechanic.

 

[Naudi]

if they announce a house of wolves release date today with new info/trailer/teaser I fully expect this thread to go insane.... you all better go insane.... I mean it!

Crushed hopes incoming...better delete quickly lol

 

[Toxi]

There has to be some other use for it that we don't understand yet. It feels like a wasted mechanic.

It's cool being able to see giant spider cthulhus.

 

[PuMa]

if they announce a house of wolves release date today with new info/trailer/teaser I fully expect this thread to go insane.... you all better go insane.... I mean it!

Oh, I'm ready.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

There has to be some other use for it that we don't understand yet. It feels like a wasted mechanic.

You can also buy useful stuff there, like rare items for chalice dungeons or armor sets.

 

[Heel]

Question- Is there any sidequest I should clear before killing

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ROM

?

I rescued all 4 NPCs already if that matters.

I would make use of the

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Hypogean Gaol lamp

as it won't be functional afterward. There's a nice little blood echo run from there, killing

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the two bag men and two pigs outside.

Great for leveling if you don't mind the grind.

 

[MegaSackman]

There has to be some other use for it that we don't understand yet. It feels like a wasted mechanic.

Well, you can go to the story and lore thread to find out.

 

[Uno Venova]

Wait having high insight makes the game harder?

 

[yifei]

Something weird happened to me, i summoned and got 2 guests which we killed Amelia very quickly, they both attacked her in front, i just threw oil + molotov at her

For NPC quest there's only Alfred to help you?

Father G also available for the cleric beast fight

 

[Veggy]

if they announce a house of wolves release date today with new info/trailer/teaser I fully expect this thread to go insane.... you all better go insane.... I mean it!

I'm expecting more chalice dungeons

 

[matrixman92]

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Hide behind pillars to avoid the meteors. Lure and fight spiders behind the pillars until they're cleared. Get to the closest pillar outside of his ground splash attack, and run at him as soon as a sky attack ends, attacking from the side. Equip health and stamina ruins, too. Tedious, but worked for me at the same level as you.

holy shit I did it. I have been stuck on this for like 4 hours. That was insane. There were points where I would just stand behind a pillar and watch him do the ground meteor attack endlessly for like 45 seconds straight

Edit: the fact that i still have another layer in this one scares me

 

[Ragona]

when you first come to cathedral ward and head out towards that giant..then downstairs to the first "chrystal lizard" thingy..theres a locked door...how to open that one?

 

[ethomaz]

Another easy boss.

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Amygdala

 

[noomi]

what's that?

Crushed hopes incoming...better delete quickly lol

Oh, I'm ready.

I'm expecting more chalice dungeons

LMAO, had two tabs open..... destiny thread is over that way isn't it?

 

[Heel]

holy shit I did it. I have been stuck on this for like 4 hours. That was insane. There were points where I would just stand behind a pillar and watch him do the ground meteor attack endlessly for like 45 seconds straight

Nice! I was pretty lucky with the ground attacks, as he didn't seem to do them very often when I was actually in range using that strategy.

Edit: the fact that i still have another layer in this one scares me

I'm stuck on the boss there, so I won't be any help now...lol.

 

[PuMa]

LMAO, had two tabs open..... destiny thread is over that way isn't it?

LOL I knew what you did.

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Two-tabbing it here as well

 

[Astral]

The Spanish voice acting is just as haunting as the English so far. It's pretty cool.

 

[Toxi]

Wait having high insight makes the game harder?

If you have at least 15 Insight, it definitely makes some enemies tougher. Not sure beyond that besides how more Insight will make you more susceptible to the Frenzy status effect.

 

[Steel]

Another easy boss.

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Amygdala

Agreed.

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Kinda a let down, all things considered.

 

[gcubed]

Wait having high insight makes the game harder?

past a certain level, much.

edit... well, different and stronger attack patterns. If you get stuck and need help on a boss and check out youtube clips, they are generally worthless if you have high insight as attacks change

 

[Zafir]

holy shit I did it. I have been stuck on this for like 4 hours. That was insane. There were points where I would just stand behind a pillar and watch him do the ground meteor attack endlessly for like 45 seconds straight

The fight seems very RNG heavy. Sometimes you can be a bit more lucky with his attack patterns and other times it's ridiculous. I was the same level and it took me about four or five tries.

Although you can block the

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ice missiles

in the chalice dungeon, I still think it's more difficult because of the reduced space.

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Every time I'd do too much damage to him so he skips a teleport, which causes two waves of spiders to come down on one teleport. That would be fine in the normal boss room, but in such a limited space it's just not fun courtesy of the fact the spiders can one shot you.

 

[Ferrio]

Tonitrus makes this game easy mode holy shit. I was building my 2nd character to use the damn wheel... i might have to change that.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Doesn't she

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aggro you as soon es you enter her room

?

You can leave

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

Found out it's the dialog that starts after you get killed by the

Spoiler

machine gun hunter

from Old Yharnam...

Oh wow! If that's more than just a glitch then that's something that we didn't know. I'm starting to wonder if the chalice dungeons also take place in a different time. I mean that would explain the

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Queens

presence there

 

[Uno Venova]

If you have at least 15 Insight, it definitely makes some enemies tougher. Not sure beyond that besides how more Insight will make you more susceptible to the Frenzy status effect.

past a certain level, much.

edit... well, different and stronger attack patterns. If you get stuck and need help on a boss and check out youtube clips, they are generally worthless if you have high insight as attacks change

Wow, had no idea about this, I'm at 21 now, so does anyone know what the benefit to having a high insight is?

 

[Beelzebufo]

Wow, had no idea about this, I'm at 21 now, so does anyone know what the benefit to having a high insight is?

Better drops from dead enemies?

 

[Augemitbutter]

Tonitrus makes this game easy mode holy shit. I was building my 2nd character to use the damn wheel... i might have to change that.

i knew right away the weapon was good. i used it pretty often against certain mobs and bosses. cool weapon.

 

[PuMa]

Tonitrus makes this game easy mode holy shit. I was building my 2nd character to use the damn wheel... i might have to change that.

Really? I didn't like it much but maybe I just didn't have the right stats.

 

[Ferrio]

Wow, had no idea about this, I'm at 21 now, so does anyone know what the benefit to having a high insight is?

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None really? Least nothing useful anyone has found, all indications it makes the game harder only.

Really? I didn't like it much but maybe I just didn't have the right stats.

Don't even really need much stats. Just upgrade the damn thing and keep it's transformed mode up all the time. Only rocking like 18 str 15 arc and it's killing all regular mobs in like 2 hits. Doing these areas on my first character it was taking 3-4 hits on a much slower weapon.

 

[FF Seraphim]

Tonitrus makes this game easy mode holy shit. I was building my 2nd character to use the damn wheel... i might have to change that.

Does it? Hmm will have to use it more. It is great against

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Rom

 

[Toxi]

The benefit to having a higher insight is how

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your brain becomes covered in eyeballs.