NES/Famicom Appreciation Thread
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Im so glad Namco decided to axe Pac-Man's nose.
Just beat Journey to Silius. Very good little game.
Obligatory link to the HVGN review.
I guess I never got into it before because I just don't really like the design of the enemies and there's more than a few cheap spots the game throws at you. Nitpicky things of course.
Funny thing is that the last stage is extremely difficult (I have no idea how to get by most of those acid streams unscathed) but the final bosses are extremely easy. Possibly the easiest in the game.
You know what would be a fun romhack to see? Someone romhack Journey to Silius and add Terminator sprites.
Obligatory link to the HVGN review.
I guess I never got into it before because I just don't really like the design of the enemies and there's more than a few cheap spots the game throws at you. Nitpicky things of course.
Funny thing is that the last stage is extremely difficult (I have no idea how to get by most of those acid streams unscathed) but the final bosses are extremely easy. Possibly the easiest in the game.
You know what would be a fun romhack to see? Someone romhack Journey to Silius and add Terminator sprites.
Congrats, it's one of my fav game son the NES, and dat music is amazing, some of my fav music Sunsoft has made.
RoryDropkick
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So excited, I got a status update on my NESRGB. The install looks so amazingly clean, I could never have done that good of a job.
Shadowman16
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So after years of putting it off I've finally started The Legend of Zelda 2. I've already done four of the temples and am already on my 5th... I really like the game way more than I expected it to, its a solid action title in my opinion.
The game also doesn't seem as difficult as some people made it out to be...
The enemies are no pushovers and actually requires care in order to defeat them without taking damage. The Iron Knuckles are pretty fun to fight, the bosses though seem to be pushovers from what I saw so far after the first one (which was sorta tough thanks to its small hit box).
I like the change in perspective from a top down game to a side on action platformer. Its a solid title that I've quickly grown rather attached to. I know its not one of the most popular titles in the series but I've genuinely enjoyed it more than some of the newer games in the series.
The game also doesn't seem as difficult as some people made it out to be...
The enemies are no pushovers and actually requires care in order to defeat them without taking damage. The Iron Knuckles are pretty fun to fight, the bosses though seem to be pushovers from what I saw so far after the first one (which was sorta tough thanks to its small hit box).
I like the change in perspective from a top down game to a side on action platformer. Its a solid title that I've quickly grown rather attached to. I know its not one of the most popular titles in the series but I've genuinely enjoyed it more than some of the newer games in the series.
theSlacker
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Huggers
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Tell us more.
Ha. I asked for that. I've been meaning to change this avi for months as well. Stand by the game though. Absolutely brilliant. So far ahead of its time. Once you master the combat the game really opens up. I don't think it's overly cryptic either. There are a couple of parts that require a guide but the vast majority is fine. It's not like Simons Quest
Shadowman16
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I'm still pissed off at a couple of points in Simon's Quest, fairly certain I'd never, ever finish that game without a guide for a couple of spots.
Zelda 2 isn't without its issues either direction wise, as having to go to certain squares on the overworld is fairly difficult if you don't know exactly what your doing. I'm using a guide though, and really I don't feel like I'm ruining the experience by doing so, as I still figure everything else out, but remove some of the tedium in the overworld. Its the action I like so much, the combat has clicked with me, the mix of using the right spell and efficiently using the shield for those encounters against Iron Knuckles hasn't gotten old so far.
Zelda 2 isn't without its issues either direction wise, as having to go to certain squares on the overworld is fairly difficult if you don't know exactly what your doing. I'm using a guide though, and really I don't feel like I'm ruining the experience by doing so, as I still figure everything else out, but remove some of the tedium in the overworld. Its the action I like so much, the combat has clicked with me, the mix of using the right spell and efficiently using the shield for those encounters against Iron Knuckles hasn't gotten old so far.
Charles Brandon
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I've never been able to get into Zelda II. It just seems ... really shit. I'm confused about what I'm supposed to be doing and it feels really hard, like much harder than Castlevania even that I'm playing though at the moment.
Simon's Quest I do like though although obviously I was never able to finish it when I was a kid. It was the first game I owned and I was horrendously confused by it but I loved the atmosphere and the music.
Simon's Quest I do like though although obviously I was never able to finish it when I was a kid. It was the first game I owned and I was horrendously confused by it but I loved the atmosphere and the music.
sixteen-bit
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AV fami lookin' good
Charles Brandon
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Yeah I suppose. I loved the feeling of wandering around medieval transylvania, I thought they did a really good job with that. The mansions were weird though and felt a bit unfinished and the action sections were nowhere near as good as in the original. And of course it was borderline impossible to complete without knowing certain things.
I feel that the vision of this game was never fully realised. SOTN sorta went in the same direction but went so far that it became a different sort of game altogether. Simon's Quest with Castlevania I/III quality action sections and a less opaque structure would be a perfect game for me. Are there any hacks like that?
Huggers
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Simons Quest is nearly brilliant. It just falls flat in certain areas. I agreed if they'd made the mansions more combat centric with the nuanced design of the first or third games it would have gone a long way. Music/graphics wise it doesn't miss a beat. The obtuse layout isn't great either. It definitely needs a more rigid way of letting you know what to do next. Hiding stuff behind holy water destructible walls constantly is unnecessary as well. I still love the game though
Charles Brandon
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Yep the music is incredible. Bloody Tears is tied with the Zelda overworld theme as my favourite game tune. Every time they bring it back as a remix in the later games I start grinning. Such a tune 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjazC45Qkww
edit: hope that's the right video, I can't hear it in the office
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjazC45Qkww
edit: hope that's the right video, I can't hear it in the office
D.Lo
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Good way of putting it.
No game gave me the same sense of adventure in the whole of the 80s. I used a guide to finish it (kneeling at cliffs etc) and the guide had the FDS version's map included, and the game actually follows the map pretty accurately.
There's a re-translation patch out there that fixes all the issues, and adds that map in when you press select. It's a big buggy in the save screen, but using the Everdrive's save states it works very well.
Charles Brandon
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Another weird thing about that game is that there is very little penalty for dying. IIRC you just lose all your hearts every third life. Is that right? or do you lose your exp too? Takes a lot of the tension out.
Shadowman16
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Finished off Zelda 2 today. Loved it from beginning to end, if I didn't have a huge NES/Famicom backlog (along with Yakuza 0 and my Vita stuff) I'd play it through again for the heck of it.
The combat quickly "clicked" with me and from there it was just damn fun. Iron Knuckle battles could be pretty tense at times (the blue ones) as I blocked and countered them. It was immensely satisfying to finish one off without taking damage (where one single hit would have killed me).
The bosses were a tad disappointing though, none really proved to be all that tough bar the first boss really. The flame dragon boss in temple 6 was fairly dangerous thanks to the pits but the Thunderbird was actually less dangerous than anticipated once I learnt his fireball patterns.
Now onto Kirby's Adventure, I've neglected the series as a whole all these years so I'm going to marathon them throughout the next few months...
The combat quickly "clicked" with me and from there it was just damn fun. Iron Knuckle battles could be pretty tense at times (the blue ones) as I blocked and countered them. It was immensely satisfying to finish one off without taking damage (where one single hit would have killed me).
The bosses were a tad disappointing though, none really proved to be all that tough bar the first boss really. The flame dragon boss in temple 6 was fairly dangerous thanks to the pits but the Thunderbird was actually less dangerous than anticipated once I learnt his fireball patterns.
Now onto Kirby's Adventure, I've neglected the series as a whole all these years so I'm going to marathon them throughout the next few months...
I cant wait till I get around to playing Chronicles of the Radia War.
I mean just listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdEyz04rhZw
Tecmo was so on point back in the day, its ridiculous.
I mean just listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdEyz04rhZw
Tecmo was so on point back in the day, its ridiculous.
theSlacker
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That reminds me...
PhantomZone
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Always loved Zelda 2 and it's my favorite in the entire series (granted I never played any of the Zelda titles over the years as the series' lore just doesn't interest me that much haha).
gingerbeardman
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Got this in the latest Project EGG email:
Lagrange Point Soundtrack Re-issue
http://www.amusement-center.com/project/emusic/records/emca0021.html
Lagrange Point Soundtrack Re-issue
http://www.amusement-center.com/project/emusic/records/emca0021.html
entremet
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It has arrived!
Very happy with the condition of the system. I had the original NES and the Top Loader but the AV Famicom is perfection. (shut up Fami Titler).
Now to either wait for the HDMI mod or RGB it and try in vain to find a Sony PVM/BVM.
Nice!
Those old school controllers have such short cords. But this was when we played our games on 13 inch screens just a few feet away.
dcx4610
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I bought Tomee extension cables that gets them to 9 feet. I don't notice any discernable lag with them thankfully. Definitely recommend for AV Famicom owners.
D.Lo
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Lol, longer cables won't cause any perceptible lag/latency. The signal is travelling at 50-99% the speed of light, you get the same 'lag' from the screen to your eyes at the same distance.
The best solution is to use dogbone NES controllers (or regular NES controllers) with the AV fami, no messing with extensions.
RoryDropkick
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That... that's fantastic. I think I need to order that.
In other news, hopefully my FC will return tomorrow or Monday, I can't wait to see the NESRGB in action!
Yep, best way but they can be costly. Need them hookups.
So, time to sit closer to the screen to cut that 1/1000000th of a frame of lag.
RoryDropkick
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My AV Fami just returned from Baphomet.. it's soooooo gorgeous :O
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Only the Japanese consoles had short cords... so unless you grew up in Asia, Western consoles have had pretty lengthy cords since the beginning.
Those AV Famicom controllers in particular are crazy short. I think they're even shorter than my PC Engine ones.
RadarScope1
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Can anyone give me their impressions of Pin-Bot and High Speed? Looks like they were both developed by Rare and done with some pretty careful attention to detail. Obviously they're not going to be anywhere close to the realism of The Pinball Arcade in HD, but they look interesting to me. I'm wondering if these were the very first attempt to translate real tables into a video game. Anyone know if that's the case?
Shadow Hog
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My brother got me Castlevania for my birthday. (And a Yoshi Amiibo, but still, Castlevania.)
Can you believe that in the 27 years I've been alive, I've only ever owned Simon's Quest and Dracula's Curse, as far as the NES trilogy goes? Never the first one. Glad that's changed.
Can you believe that in the 27 years I've been alive, I've only ever owned Simon's Quest and Dracula's Curse, as far as the NES trilogy goes? Never the first one. Glad that's changed.
riskVSreward
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That's awesome dude, enjoy it, I've had Castlevania for like 20+ years and I've still yet to beat it, good luck!
I just came real close to beating Contra without the code this afternoon. I only need a few more attempts I can feel it!
I just came real close to beating Contra without the code this afternoon. I only need a few more attempts I can feel it!
Seeing that has me wondering, did they drop microphone capability completely when they released the Famicom AV? I guess not many games used it on the original Famicom and the NES didn't have the feature either so... I supposed they figured it was safe to drop it?
Did they ever release a peripheral for the Famicom AV that restored the function?
I'd love to know this too. I'd love to actually use a mic Zelda on my next playthrough; I've never done it before.
Charles Brandon
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So now I've got:
A PAL NES
A NTSC NES
An XRGBmini Frameister
An Everdrive N8
About 50 assorted games.
Hooked up the NTSC NES to my UK power supply. Worked fine. Was surprised how much smoother 60hz was. Tried out the Everdrive... worked great. I'm not going to abuse the save states but it will come in handy when I want to switch games or turn the console off.
I've got a guy lined up to do the RGB mod do I'll probably send it off next week.
A PAL NES
A NTSC NES
An XRGBmini Frameister
An Everdrive N8
About 50 assorted games.
Hooked up the NTSC NES to my UK power supply. Worked fine. Was surprised how much smoother 60hz was. Tried out the Everdrive... worked great. I'm not going to abuse the save states but it will come in handy when I want to switch games or turn the console off.
I've got a guy lined up to do the RGB mod do I'll probably send it off next week.
I need to build one of these! I'm sure Yamatoku has Loose Famicom Pads listed sometimes. Will have to keep an eye out.
So I got one of these off eBay a little while back, and it didn't work right. It was covered in all kinds of crap and the D-pad wasn't as functional as it should have been. Also the turbo buttons didn't work, nor did the sound stuff, but I knew about that.
I tried to return it but since I'm an eBay n00b and the shipping label expired I ended up just keeping it with the intent of opening it up to get it to work.
Several alcohol-soaked cotton swabs later and the normal NES A+B+START+SELECT+D-pad function perfectly. I'll probably pick up one where all the functions work soon. It's not a bad feeling controller.
entremet
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Oh really? I was just going by eye on the pic. I still remember rolling the cords on my old NES controllers.
Never had dogbones though.