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[The Xtortionist]

Is it just me or do the Souls games always lose a bit of steam in the later half. I beat

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Rom

and now I've mostly been warping around the world talking to npcs and deciding on what location to tackle next. It reminds me of Dark Souls after Anor Londo. I prefer the more cohesive adventure of the first half, especially because warping to the hunter's dream and then warping to whatever location you want to check is such a chore. I'm still enjoying it though and I'm definitely going to finish it, I just wish we could have a Souls game once that actually sustained that feeling of adventure that so characterizes the first half of these games all the way to the end.

Dark Souls 2 and Bloodborne accelerate their pacing in the back half by becoming more linear, which I prefer. If the game uses a non-linear approach for required areas, I'd rather see that stuff packed into the first half like in Dark 2 or Demon's (which is the entire game, to be fair, but it's presented upfront). Not even speaking of the quality of post-Anor Londo areas in Dark 1, the non-linear structure of the back half kills the momentum for me.

Some BB structure spoilers for where you are:

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If you simply run forward after defeating Rom and keep running, you will eventually get to the end of the game's required content. It's linear from that point. Actually, I don't think there's ever a point in the game where the player can tackle two or more required areas in any order.

 

[patchday]

If anyone is struggling with finding of Ritual Blood 5, i've made a video how easy you can get almost infinite number of them...
To be able to do it, you will have to summon for the first time Ailing Loran Chalice Dungeon. Then just follow that video.
Ritual Blood 5 farming

bookmarking if I ever get to that point

 

[Cyborg]

So help me out.(late game spoiler) Only read if you have beaten the game

The doll tells me

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Gherman

is waiting for me.
I know there are

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three

endings....and the true one is when you consume

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3 cords

.

I have three but when do I consume them? And how do the

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three endigs

work? Ive made a copy of my savefile, just in case

 

[The Xtortionist]

So help me out.(late game spoiler) Only read if you have beaten the game

The doll tells me

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Gherman

is waiting for me.
I know there are

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three

endings....and the true one is when you consume

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3 cords

.

I have three but when do I consume them? And how do the

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three endigs

work? Ive made a copy of my savefile, just in case

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Consume the cords anytime before talking to Gehrman, and choose "Refuse" for ending 3.

For ending 1, choose "Submit your life."

For ending 2, choose "Refuse" without consuming three cords.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

So help me out.(late game spoiler) Only read if you have beaten the game

The doll tells me

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Gherman

is waiting for me.
I know there are

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three

endings....and the true one is when you consume

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3 cords

.

I have three but when do I consume them? And how do the

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three endigs

work? Ive made a copy of my savefile, just in case

Don't consume the

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three cords

go and stand in front of

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]Gehrman

, then close the game and upload your gamesave.

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Then speak to Gehrman and take the first Option.
After the credits, leave the game and download the save file and overwrite it with your current save, and this time you refuse, kill the boss and if you get the trophy. Do the same thing again and download the save file, this time you consume the three cords and you have to refuse again to get the true ending

 

[knitoe]

So help me out.(late game spoiler) Only read if you have beaten the game

The doll tells me

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Gherman

is waiting for me.
I know there are

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three

endings....and the true one is when you consume

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3 cords

.

I have three but when do I consume them? And how do the

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three endigs

work? Ive made a copy of my savefile, just in case

Endings:

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1) Accept Gehrman offer.
2) Don't use cord. Kill Gehrman
3) Use cords. Then, kill Gehrman. Another boss to kill afterward.

Edit: Beaten. Slow typing on a phone.

 

[boredandlazy]

So help me out.(late game spoiler) Only read if you have beaten the game

The doll tells me

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Gherman

is waiting for me.
I know there are

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three

endings....and the true one is when you consume

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3 cords

.

I have three but when do I consume them? And how do the

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three endigs

work? Ive made a copy of my savefile, just in case

Ending 1:

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Gherman asks you a question. Choose to give up your life

Ending 2:

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Refuse his offer without eating umbilical cords

True Ending:

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Eat cords before battle, refuse his offer and defeat him. Then defeat the next boss

Edit: Beaten 3 times...

 

[Raiden]

I beat Rom on the third try at lv51. Am i a bit overleveled? Shadows of yarnham took me 10-12 tries though.

 

[Zocano]

I beat Rom on the third try at lv51. Am i a bit overleveled? Shadows of yarnham took me 10-12 tries though.

Nah, you're on-level if anything.

 

[toastyToast]

That Descendant guy though.... He might not look that bad in the video of the fight but trust me, that fight is just not fun at LVL 4. Easily, easily the worst part of the whole thing!

Just watched that video. The nerves were palpable. A good minute you didn't even attempt any attacks.

Didn't know you could parry his weapon throw. Good to know.

 

[dosh]

Yeah I think you're right about this. Indeed all the Souls games do kind of taper off in the wonder and enchantment as you go on, but I feel like Bloodborne is the most consistent and tapers off the least. As you get going, shit just gets crazier and crazier, and when you end up going certain places and seeing them in a new light (

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like when you see the second floor of the Cathedral and realize that Ebrietas was right below you the whole time when you were fighitn Amelia

), it can still impress you. I personally never lost the initial feeling, I thought places like Hemwick and Cainhurst were mind-blowingly atmospheric and I enjoyed every inch of them.

Yeah, that's how it felt to me as well. The

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Amygdalas appearing all over the place after beating Rom

, or

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Ebrietas being there since the beginning as you said

. These really had my jaw drop.

I also loved the fact that you could go back to the earlier areas and unlock or discover a LOT of new things. The H

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ealing Church Workshop -> Abandonned Workshop + Upper Cathedral/Lunarium -> Altar of Despair

path was insane.

And of course the

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coach arriving in Hemwick Lane to take you to Cainhurst

. This is probably one of my favorite bits in the game. I didn't expect

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an actual coach ride

. And you think it's over when

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Logarius goes down? No, good sir. Introducing the Blood Queen. Also covenants!

The final boss fight is especially cool looking in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/user/JoeFenix/videos

This was great to watch. Incredible skills, and the fight does look cool.

 

[JoeFenix]

Just watched that video. The nerves were palpable. A good minute you didn't even attempt any attacks.

Didn't know you could parry his weapon throw. Good to know.

That's mostly because I was waiting for opportunities, in his second phase it's incredibly hard to deal any significant damage other than with parries.

I was trying to use the room to my advantage and reposition when I got cornered, trying to wait for the right attacks to parry.

I also tried to always stay right next to him to minimize the chances of him going for a weapon throw but yeah, you have to be patient. He can end you instantly if you make a single wrong move and the fight lasts a quite a long time.

 

[flipswitch]

My first souls-type game and it's already my GOTY. Wasn't expecting it to grab me but I'm hooked.

 

[Ostinatto]

Defiled KoOL lvl 50

 

[Bishop89]

Lol, this just happened to me. They die in 1 hit to molotovs

thanks for the tip, ill give those a shot

 

[GorillaJu]

That's mostly because I was waiting for opportunities, in his second phase it's incredibly hard to deal any significant damage other than with parries.

I was trying to use the room to my advantage and reposition when I got cornered, trying to wait for the right attacks to parry.

I also tried to always stay right next to him to minimize the chances of him going for a weapon throw but yeah, you have to be patient. He can end you instantly if you make a single wrong move and the fight lasts a quite a long time.

God damn you have the Bloodletting Beast's moves down to a science. Inspiring.

 

[Matt_]

Finally managed t beat abhorrent beast
I cheesed and just shot and used poison knives, no regrets though

Also my mum just came in saying my clothes (bone ash set) wernt very practical because they would catch and tear

 

[Septic360]

Finally managed t beat abhorrent beast
I cheesed and just shot and used poison knives, no regrets though

Also my mum just came in saying my clothes (bone ash set) wernt very practical because they would catch and tear

Lmao. She's right you know.

 

[Sid]

Can I dodge all the attacks of

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Ebrietas

? getting hit repeatedly by her charging run

 

[fantomena]

How do I get a burning weapon, make my weapon burn?

 

[ogbg]

Actually, I don't think there's ever a point in the game where the player can tackle two or more required areas in any order.[/spoiler]

The only part that kind of does that is with

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Cleric/BSB

. You need to beat one of them to progress but doesn't matter which one.

 

[JoeFenix]

Can I dodge all the attacks of

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Ebrietas

? getting hit repeatedly by her charging run

Yeah, that move is a pain in the ass but there is in fact a way to reliably dodge it. When she rears up her head to start the charge, immediately dash sideways and then follow up with a back dodge.

You should be able to consistently avoid her charge attack that way!

 

[Zocano]

That's mostly because I was waiting for opportunities, in his second phase it's incredibly hard to deal any significant damage other than with parries.

I was trying to use the room to my advantage and reposition when I got cornered, trying to wait for the right attacks to parry.

I also tried to always stay right next to him to minimize the chances of him going for a weapon throw but yeah, you have to be patient. He can end you instantly if you make a single wrong move and the fight lasts a quite a long time.

Impressive videos but I'm surprised you didn't just try and get the parries down as often as possible with the Pthumerian Descendant. I know a lot of it turns into "imperfect" parries where you still take damage but I'd have probably spent the time trying to bait parries like a mad man.

Speaking of which, it's cool that you did a (super late game boss spoiler)

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Gehrman

run without parries. He's an incredible fight and (probably?) my favorite fight in the series but he's got the problem of just being too easy to parry like most of the humanoid bosses.

 

[Doc Evils]

My only trophies left for this game is Chalice Dungeon based, and to be honest I find them very tedious to do

 

[Sid]

Yeah, that move is a pain in the ass but there is in fact a way to reliably dodge it. When she rears up her head to start the charge, immediately dash sideways and then follow up with a back dodge.

You should be able to consistently avoid her charge attack that way!

She rears her head back for various attacks,how would I know she's gonna charge?

 

[myco666]

The only part that kind of does that is with

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Cleric/BSB

. You need to beat one of them to progress but doesn't matter which one.

You don't need to beat either of them to progress.

 

[Zocano]

You don't need to beat either of them to progress.

Unless you're hopping a fence, one or the other needs to die.

 

[JoeFenix]

Impressive videos but I'm surprised you didn't just try and get the parries down as often as possible with the Pthumerian Descendant. I know a lot of it turns into "imperfect" parries where you still take damage but I'd have probably spent the time trying to bait parries like a mad man.

Speaking of which, it's cool that you did a (super late game boss spoiler)

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Gehrman

run without parries. He's an incredible fight and (probably?) my favorite fight in the series but he's got the problem of just being too easy to parry like most of the humanoid bosses.

The problem with that guy is that imperfect parries lead to death with this amount of hp. His moves in the second phase carry a ton of forward momentum and the timing for parries is relatively strict. I can't afford to spam the pistol and pray I get lucky, that just leads to instant death.

Another problem is that my visceral attacks do abysmal damage at LVL 4 so getting a long range parry followed by a quick dash into visceral wasn't really a viable option in terms of dealing significant amounts of damage. Alot of the boss fights have a very different feel when fighting them at such a low character level, you can't get away with alot of the things that would normally work.

And I totally agree about the final boss fight, he's just amazing to fight but he is a bit easy to parry so I wanted to try and take him head on without relying on those. Glad I did, he's probably my favorite fight in the series as well!

She rears her head back for various attacks,how would I know she's gonna charge?

It's a unique animation, you're going to have to learn to read it. With a little bit of practice you should be able to see her charge coming, the trick is to react fast enough with your dodging.

 

[sam777]

I have completed

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the Vicar Amelia boss battle

but what is recommended that I should next?

I read something about helping Eileen and some other lady?

 

[Mogwai]

I trying to do

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Vicar

solo with my riflespear +5. Still I'm not able to stun her as much as I'd like, especially for the healing phase. Where exactly should I hit her?

Feels like my damage output is just too low. It's at 163dmg right now at my character screen. No idea if it's too low...

 

[myco666]

Unless you're hopping a fence, one or the other needs to die.

Nope. You can get to

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Gascoigne

before

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Cleric Beast

and after that you can buy

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emblem

from bath messengers so that you can get to

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Vicar Amelia

. No need for

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BSB

or

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Cleric Beast

.

I trying to do

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Vicar

solo with my riflespear +5. Still I'm not able to stun her as much as I'd like, especially for the healing phase. Where exactly should I hit her?

Feels like my damage output is just too low. It's at 163dmg right now at my character screen. No idea if it's too low...

Throw numbing mist so that she can't heal.

 

[Zocano]

Nope. You can get to

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Gascoigne

before

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Cleric Beast

and after that you can buy

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emblem

from bath messengers so that you can get to

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Vicar Amelia

. No need for

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BSB

or

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Cleric Beast

.

Oh, you can buy that thing through just G? Didn't realize that. Thought it was tied to the CB badge.

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The badge that drops from Cleric Beast unlocks the emblem key in the shop.

See this is what I thought which is why I said one or the other needs to die.

 

[The Xtortionist]

Nope. You can get to

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Gascoigne

before

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Cleric Beast

and after that you can buy

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emblem

from bath messengers so that you can get to

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Vicar Amelia

. No need for

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BSB

or

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Cleric Beast

.

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The badge that drops from Cleric Beast unlocks the emblem key in the shop.

edit - beat, but yeah. Papa G only drops the Oedon Tomb key. CB drops the badge. You can probably skip CB on NG+ though, since in theory, the emblem key would be available right off the bat.

 

[myco666]

Oh, you can buy that thing through just G? Didn't realize that. Thought it was tied to the CB badge.



See this is what I thought which is why I said one or the other needs to die.

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The badge that drops from Cleric Beast unlocks the emblem key in the shop.

edit - beat, but yeah. Papa G only drops the Oedon Tomb key. CB drops the badge. You can probably skip CB on NG+ though, since in theory, the emblem key would be available right off the bat.

Oh didn't remember that since in NG+ you already have the badge for it.

 

[eot]

IGN ran an article about my LVL 4 chalice dungeon challenge

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2015/04/11/bloodborne-chalice-dungeon-completed-on-lowest-level

Some of the bosses in the defiled chalice and Ihyll chalice dungeons at LVL 4 were pretty rough.

The

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Pthumerian Descendant

was surprisingly the hardest part of the run for me, the guy is pure evil with his throwing sickle attacks that go through pillars.

Had alot of fun doing this though! There's a fair amount of boss fight videos on my youtube channel if any of you are interested, all at LVL 4 of course! The final boss fight is especially cool looking in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/user/JoeFenix/videos

Well done man, I think I'll stick to the "regular" game on my run

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Hunter's Craft Trophy question, do I have to have all on one character ?

 

[Zocano]

The problem with that guy is that imperfect parries lead to death with this amount of hp. His moves in the second phase carry a ton of forward momentum and the timing for parries is relatively strict. I can't afford to spam the pistol and pray I get lucky, that just leads to instant death.

Another problem is that my visceral attacks do abysmal damage at LVL 4 so getting a long range parry followed by a quick dash into visceral wasn't really a viable option in terms of dealing significant amounts of damage. Alot of the boss fights have a very different feel when fighting them at such a low character level, you can't get away with alot of the things that would normally work.

I did SL1s for the previous games (except Demon's where I did a 99.9% SL1). Allant does this dumb thing where he, like, instant counters you sometimes? It seems really random and it's hard to find on youtube but basically he'd just get an attack out on you in the middle of your combo with no animation start up, just sword swing and damage and it's impossible to avoid even when I was being careful about it. Just got fed up with it and felt it was just random chance of success rather than just properly avoiding the rest of his movset. And all his moves are a one-shot at that level so I just pumped every single soul I had into vitality and had a field day on him.

Anyway. I'll probably attempt an SL1 of this game (eventually) but my main issue is always doing shit damage versus dying in one hit. Dying in one hit is fine, I just need to get good and learn boss moves (very very well), but doing piss poor damage means not getting hit over a long long long period of time.

The real question would be if I want to damn myself enough to plunge into the chalice dungeons.

Also, yes, you can parry the BSB right-hand charge attack if you haven't figured it out already. The hitbox is kinda weird on it though cause your shot can blow right past him if it's a bit too late.

edit: Also also, didn't realize you were the guy who did the twin pursuers bare-handed no damage video.

That fucking opening is the dumbest

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bestest

synch up ever.

 

[everybodyman]

I'm having trouble with the lady dwarves in

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Margo's loft

. I cant parry them. I'm using the basic pistol, should i use the blunderbuss instead?

 

[anddo0]

Hunter's Craft Trophy question, do I have to have all on one character ?

Yes. It's always been that way with Souls games.

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

Layer 1 of the Defiled Chalice complete. The first boss wasn't too bad.

Also, it can't get worse than BSB from Ailing Loran... right?

 

[Zocano]

Layer 1 of the Defiled Chalice complete. The first boss wasn't too bad.

Also, it can't get worse than BSB from Ailing Loran... right?

hahahahahah

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Layer 2 of Defiled Chalice is probably the longest I've spent on any of the separate sections. Which was about... 2 hours?

 

[2AdEPT]

Finally done with Unseen Village, good riddance. It was both amazing and incredibly frustrating.

Paarl was a pushover at level 60, not so much when I tried him earlier. One Reborn wasn't so bad, but my god, what twisted design. onwards and upwards I guess.

We are at the same spot in the game...I pushed on to get the next boss in upper cathedral...I dont really know how to go any other way besides Canhurst. um ok that was an interesting boss in Upper Cathedral? Absolutely love how you can see the path to these areas. i totally was following the "route in the sky" earlier in the game and knew it was goign to come about sooner or later...later is now!

 

[JoeFenix]

I did SL1s for the previous games (except Demon's where I did a 99.9% SL1). Allant does this dumb thing where he, like, instant counters you sometimes? It seems really random and it's hard to find on youtube but basically he'd just get an attack out on you in the middle of your combo with no animation start up, just sword swing and damage and it's impossible to avoid even when I was being careful about it. Just got fed up with it and felt it was just random chance of success rather than just properly avoiding the rest of his movset. And all his moves are a one-shot at that level so I just pumped every single soul I had into vitality and had a field day on him.

Anyway. I'll probably attempt an SL1 of this game (eventually) but my main issue is always doing shit damage versus dying in one hit. Dying in one hit is fine, I just need to get good and learn boss moves (very very well), but doing piss poor damage means not getting hit over a long long long period of time.

The real question would be if I want to damn myself enough to plunge into the chalice dungeons.

Also, yes, you can parry the BSB right-hand charge attack if you haven't figured it out already. The hitbox is kinda weird on it though cause your shot can blow right past him if it's a bit too late.

edit: Also also, didn't realize you were the guy who did the twin pursuers bare-handed no damage video.

That fucking opening is the dumbest

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bestest

synch up ever.

Yeah, you should try doing a LVL4/SL1 run in Bloodborne, it's definitely fun but I'm not sure I would recommend doing the later chalice dungeons that way. I found this game to be the most challenging of the bunch at low level but the main game is certainly manageable.

Also, I'm aware you can parry BSB but I get more damage out of going for backstab staggers instead.

And yeah, that Neo video was some really dumb stuff hah! Had alot of fun making that

 

[InfiniDragon]

Yeah, that move is a pain in the ass but there is in fact a way to reliably dodge it. When she rears up her head to start the charge, immediately dash sideways and then follow up with a back dodge.

You should be able to consistently avoid her charge attack that way!

You can also dodge with one dash, but it's trickier to pull off. You have to wait pretty much until the boss is on you then dash left or right. The benefit to this however, is that you can punish the tackle if you pull it off because you're still in attack range.

 

[Sid]

OK WTF

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I went to Losefka's clinic and there's this NPC girl laying on the table and saying 'she's no beast'

what should I do?

 

[JoeFenix]

You can also dodge with one dash, but it's trickier to pull off. You have to wait pretty much until the boss is on you then dash left or right. The benefit to this however, is that you can punish the tackle if you pull it off because you're still in attack range.

I've found this to be extremely inconsistent, at LVL4 I would just die immediately if I got hit mid dodge so that method didn't seem reliable.

Maybe I just needed more practice with it but the timing seemed extremely tight.

 

[eot]

The insight suckers in this game are literally hilter. The one in byrgenwerth in particular.

 

[Zocano]

Also, I'm aware you can parry BSB but I get more damage out of going for backstab staggers instead.

I mostly just said that cause you said in the BSB video that you didn't know if you could parry that specific move and didn't know if you had figured out by this point. Was just checking!


But yah I'm cautiously excited for the SL1/4/whatever run. Your videos just made me want to do it much more sooner rather than later.

I'll probably wuss out and just do a low vit/end run first since I can't bare the low damage just yet.

The insight suckers in this game are literally hilter. The one in byrgenwerth in particular.

They're highly slash (standard damage) and, I think, blunt resistant. Try other moves or weapons for better success.

 

[InfiniDragon]

I've found this to be extremely inconsistent, at LVL4 I would just die immediately if I got hit mid dodge so that method didn't seem reliable.

Maybe I just needed more practice with it but the timing seemed extremely tight.

Yeah if you goof that up in a low level run like you were doing it's all over for you. Well, if you get hit by nearly anything at that level it's over haha.

I got OHKO'd too at the level I figured this out (was like 41 or so); the only reason I even tried to learn the one dash dodge in the first place was because sometimes she would do the damn tackle pretty much point blank and the two dodge method wasn't working for me in those scenarios. Maybe I wasn't quick enough on it.

Since you seem to have a good handle on these sorts of things (like wrecking twin Pursuers) you happen to have any decent advice on if this boss does the A Call Beyond ripoff + flying tackle combo late in the fight? I cannot figure out a reliable way to avoid the flying tackle in that scenario since you have to time your dodges for the three laser blasts.

 

[JoeFenix]

I mostly just said that cause you said in the BSB video that you didn't know if you could parry that specific move and didn't know if you had figured out by this point. Was just checking!


But yah I'm cautiously excited for the SL1/4/whatever run. Your videos just made me want to do it much more sooner rather than later.

I'll probably wuss out and just do a low vit/end run first since I can't bare the low damage just yet.

Oh right, that move! Yeah, I've learned that you can indeed parry it. I was thinking of the regular swipe it does.

Honestly your idea sounds good if you don't want to deal with low damage output, just don't touch vit and end and that should solve your problem! Have fun!