Arrow is clearly budget constrained compared to Daredevil. The quality of the actors alone is way over Arrow's head, and the production values are higher. But Arrow also isn't aspiring to as much within its budget, either.
To some extent, they are trying to be different things, but Arrow suffers in comparison with Daredevil for the serious/brooding side, and with Flash for the comic-booky fun side.
The big difference isn't so much budget as it is time.
Arrow episodes are being written as Arrow episodes are being filmed. Everything films in about 7-10 days, and pre-production for the next episode occurs during the filming of the last. The nature of network is that it's handicapped by how it's produced.
It's also why Hannibal has received as much praise. Even though it's on a network, it's produced like a cable show.
Up to Ep.8.
Yeah this show is really fun, and action-wise, only Banshee was a better TV show on that front (of those I have seen, anyway).
The only thing i find boring is
both the lawyer side of things (thankfully very sparse) and the whole journalist/investigation plotline, terribly boring especially because we already knew everything, waiting for the characters on screen to catch up.
It did have a pay off in the latest episode, but it could've been easily cut greatly in screen time and have the same effect.
The big difference isn't so much budget as it is time.
Arrow episodes are being written as Arrow episodes are being filmed. Everything films in about 7-10 days, and pre-production for the next episode occurs during the filming of the last. The nature of network is that it's handicapped by how it's produced.
It's also why Hannibal has received as much praise. Even though it's on a network, it's produced like a cable show.
Yeah seeing this show...im begging for Arrow to go Netflix because that would be great for that show and its cast. The network can have the team up show anyway.
On Ep 12 now, and I'm loving the show, I just really dislike Karen's character. And seeing all those comic spoilers up there,
I'm feeling bitterly disappointed that she may be the love interest in the future. Claire has been a much more interesting character who has better chemistry with Matt.
Binged the first three episodes last night. Damn, these action sequences. Daredevil isn't a tank, he takes his fucking hits, he gets disoriented, he barely gets up sometimes. I'm in love with this show.
THAT EPISODE 2 ENDING. Beautifully shot, great action, emotional ending. I would argue it's better than Oldboy's sequence, if just not as graphic.
Great writing, acting, etc. Love it. Love Daredevil. Even digging that kid who I hated in every movie of the 90s he was in, but is a great Foggy. Love seeing Jessica from True Blood and even if we missed those Baby Vamps.
JOSIE'S BAR! THEY DRANK THE EEL!?
Can't wait to see more Fisk in the next episode. "I'm...interested..."
I'm ranting and fanboying out, but the first 10 minutes is better than the entire Daredevil film. Great job Netflix!
(issues: the spill/accident sequence - why is no one taking care of the kid, but there's like three guys helping up a middle-aged guy who was pushed out of the way? We're assuming since it's on TV and the 80s/90s that it's professional boxing, so why do they still treat Jack as some corner gym thug to the point that he has to come home to get sewn up? Seems like a weird 'reverse anachronism', as in treating his boxing career as if it's happening in the 30s or 40s like in the comics)
Edit: put in spoilers just in case, though they're very minor and nothing you wouldn't see in a preview article.
I bet he loves it. I recall him being a fan of the character, and let's be honest, he wasn't the main problem with the film. He wasn't great in the role, but the film had way more problems.
We're assuming since it's on TV and the 80s/90s that it's professional boxing, so why do they still treat Jack as some corner gym thug to the point that he has to come home to get sewn up? Seems like a weird 'reverse anachronism', as in treating his boxing career as if it's happening in the 30s or 40s like in the comics)
I bet he loves it. I recall him being a fan of the character, and let's be honest, he wasn't the main problem with the film. He wasn't great in the role, but the film had way more problems.
"The only movie I actually regret is 'Daredevil.' It just kills me. I love that story, that character, and the fact that it got f***** up the way it did stays with me. Maybe that's part of the motivation to do Batman."
Yeah, I think he'd enjoy it.
I'm on the seventh episode now. It really does get better and better.
I bet he loves it. I recall him being a fan of the character, and let's be honest, he wasn't the main problem with the film. He wasn't great in the role, but the film had way more problems.
How many times do they even depict religion in AoS? I can only think of the episode where the guy is carving symbols into people. And even then it was less than a min.
Vanessa has always been Fisks main weakness. It is great they have been able to keep that in tact and developed a pretty good and somewhat realistic reasoning besides well they are married so obviously he cares.
He was a fat awkward kid bullied by everyone including his father and lived a sheltered life even when he made it big so his mannerisms reflect that.
Fat chance with Spiderman being owned by Sony for movies/live action. How much freedom does each side have with taking the characters from the others? Because if we were to have Kingpin in the spidey movie it would need to be a very very supportive villain role.
Fat chance with Spiderman being owned by Sony for movies/live action. How much freedom does each side have with taking the characters from the others? Because if we were to have Kingpin in the spidey movie it would need to be a very very supportive villain role.
Fat chance with Spiderman being owned by Sony for movies/live action. How much freedom does each side have with taking the characters from the others? Because if we were to have Kingpin in the spidey movie it would need to be a very very supportive villain role.
Is he now? So is being able to use Fisk in the Daredevil tv series part of the deal? Or is this similar to the Quicksilver thing where both Marvel and the respective studio can use minor characters?
Is he now? So is being able to use Fisk in the Daredevil tv series part of the deal? Or is this similar to the Quicksilver thing where both Marvel and the respective studio can use minor characters?
Kingpin is pretty much tied to 3 main series as a major villain. Spiderman, Daredevil and Punisher. I would imagine there is in place a shared ownership
Is he now? So is being able to use Fisk in the Daredevil tv series part of the deal? Or is this similar to the Quicksilver thing where both Marvel and the respective studio can use minor characters?
Kingpin is pretty much tied to 3 main series as a major villain. Spiderman, Daredevil and Punisher. I would imagine there is in place a shared ownership
Is he now? So is being able to use Fisk in the Daredevil tv series part of the deal? Or is this similar to the Quicksilver thing where both Marvel and the respective studio can use minor characters?