Leaked Battlefront info (40 players, heroes, free Ep7 DLC, FPS & TPS) [Full Screens]

If theres a grip to cover based system, third person gonna be so OP.
(And ill love every minute of it.)

I doubt there will be, TPS doesn't mean "cover-based shooter" after all.

So does this mean that Rule of Two is still canon? Presumably this also rules out the Sith being an actual species too?

The Rule of Two was established in EP1, so it is canon. The Sith species is gone from canon, AFAIK.
 
I read somewhere about getting enough points to be Vader or other powerful units. Was that inaccurate or could there be some type of queue?

Imagine this mentality for Halo?

Oh wait..
BR, Infinity settings, jem's opinions, etc.

I'm just saying, you can't reward the best player with a Hero/Villain, because some people would never get a chance to use them, lol.
 
I'm just saying, you can't reward the best player with a Hero/Villain, because some people would never get a chance to use them, lol.
The leaks said awhile back that every player would be given a chance to play as the hero in a match. Its just the order that is determined by performance.
 
Didn't BF2 (never played the first Battlefront) have some kind of "Whoever gets a good killstreak" or some such system for getting to play a hero?

It was a scorestreak reward. There were a series of scorestreak reward buffs iirc and that was the end one. You also had to reach overall score milestones to unlock advanced classes in the same game. Stuff like destroyer droids, bothans, and the like required high scores(not streaks) to use.
 
So does this mean that Rule of Two is still canon? Presumably this also rules out the Sith being an actual species too?

Yeah, the Rule of Two was something Lucas created for Episode I.

Red Sith are non-canon unless they show up. The canon origin for the Sith Order is just that they were the result of a dark Jedi schism at the moment, and a much more recent than the 7000+ year one from the EU.
 
ADS for scoped weapons makes obvious sense but why not all of the weapons?
Shooters aren't like they used to be anymore where you could go around blasting anything and everything by hip firing.

It makes sense to let us ADS for FP view and not with TP view.
They don't have to introduce a hip firing penalty in TP view so it'd be a win win situation.

well maybe they shoud be
 
So is the hero up the entire match?

Nah. I believe it was on a timer/limited life in BF 2. Can't remember precisely how it was, but I think it was if you died once as a hero it's gone. Some of the heroes weren't even that strong, like Han and Chewie, so it wasn't a balance issue at all. The more powerful ones like Obi-wan could get wrecked by well placed rockets or a tank.

DUH! Of course!

Me forgetting Ep1 content is all.

It's also mentioned repeatedly in Ep2 and 3.
 
I'm just saying, you can't reward the best player with a Hero/Villain, because some people would never get a chance to use them, lol.
Yeah I know, but neither of those sound like a good idea.
The leaks said awhile back that every player would be given a chance to play as the hero in a match. Its just the order that is determined by performance.
Nah. I believe it was on a timer/limited life in BF 2. Can't remember precisely how it was, but I think it was if you died once as a hero it's gone. Some of the heroes weren't even that strong, like Han and Chewie, so it wasn't a balance issue at all. The more powerful ones like Obi-wan could get wrecked by well placed rockets or a tank.
Cool, along the lines of what I was thinking. Provides hype moments throughout the match, something for players to look forward to in trying to gain momentum.
 
Well, the only canon Old Republic things we've seen are Ahsoka's ancient armor and lightsabers which she raided from an ancient Jedi temple (as per Rebels Recon), the Darksaber, and Darth Bane's armor. All have a clearly feudal Japan look and are literally the only Old Republic things we've ever seen.
Palpatine's murals seem to represent a much more "Tales of the Jedi" aesthetic in terms of beast riders.
Palp-frieze1.JPG


There have been various interpretations over the years. Didn't know about Ashoka's sabers but it is interesting that the color range continues to grow.
I'm not getting a real "feudal" feeling off of the Darksaber, but the others sure.



The thing about Bane is that he was never an EU invention to begin with. Lucas created the character and his backstory for Episode I, and the later EU stuff just expanded on it. This is from the Episode I novelization from way back in 1999:



So that's hardly a case of them bringing something EU into canon.

And the funny thing about Darth Bane is that they actually originally did intend to bring the EU incarnation into canon:

But Lucas vetoed that and they instead went with an original, much more samurai-inspired look:
I didn't say he was an EU invention.

Furthermore, Bane's EU appearance wasn't axed because of how he looked, the conversation didn't lend itself to Sith having ghosts. Lucas felt it clashed with his Force "ideology" and opted out. It didn't work out for the character at the time so they moved on. It's finding a place for him that they decided to reintroduce the character. The aesthetic alone wasn't the reason.











True, but changing the name marks a pretty clear delineation. Like a lot of stuff in the new canon it's similar, but different.

The OS, up until very, very recently acknowledged that the planet has existed with several different names over the generations. Strange they edited that. Of all the changes, that pisses me off the most. It's so insignificant. Darth Icky levels of stupid.



Well, they've said from the beginning that stuff from the old canon can and will be brought into canon, but that the stories themselves are not canon unless explicitly stated to be. So they might go there, but the point is that it won't be the same.
The way it is offered implies that it's not a priority. Do I expect aesthetics to change? Sure, they changed from TotJ to KotOR, and then KotOR toToR. I do think it is telling that so many are willing to adapt things, the Revan image being proof.
 
Shooters aren't like they used to be anymore where you could go around blasting anything and everything by hip firing.
My experience with all Star Wars games says the gun accuracy isn't all that hot and the blasts take more time to reach their target than bullets in other games. Star Wars doesn't need to feel or function anything at all like military shooters.
 
Yeah, the Rule of Two was something Lucas created for Episode I.

Red Sith are non-canon unless they show up. The canon origin for the Sith Order is just that they were the result of a dark Jedi schism at the moment, and a much more recent than the 7000+ year one from the EU.

How recent?

The Old Republic we know is an institution that lasted a while.
 
ADS doesnt mean advance.

ADS is not a requirement in all games. Different games have different playstyles, and that doesn't always include ADS. No need to think one mechanic should be in all games.

We're not talking about all games we are talking about shooters and I prefer the aesthetic of aiming down a sight rather than hip-firing. I also prefer the gameplay aspects of aiming down a sight. I'll buy it no matter what since it's star wars battlefront but I hoped they moved away from some of the archaic design choices of yesteryear.
 
Then the only other option is to cycle through every single player in the game and put a time limit on it, lol.
Maybe it'll be to reach a certain threshold and queue for a chance to use the unit? Also, will it only be Vader or Boba Fett at a time, meaning only one powerful unit in play, or could it be queue up for a specific leader?
 
We're not talking about all games we are talking about shooters and I prefer the aesthetic of aiming down a sight rather than hip-firing. I also prefer the gameplay aspects of aiming down a sight. I'll buy it no matter what since it's star wars battlefront but I hoped they moved away from some of the archaic design choices of yesteryear.
Most characters in the Star Wars movies seem to fire from the hip anyway.
 
I don't mind ADS, but it's a bit ugly, in a sci fi game I want to see the weapon models as I use them. You could still have a zoom mechanic without needing to look through the actual sight.
 
My experience with all Star Wars games says the gun accuracy isn't all that hot and the blasts take more time to reach their target than bullets in other games. Star Wars doesn't need to feel or function anything at all like military shooters.

I was trying to say why not have ADS for FP view and No ADS for TP view.
Or maybe just not have ADS at all and agree with everyone on this because after all ill still be happily playing this game with ADS or without it.
 
Damn..the old leaked version of Battlefront 3 at least had the ability to go out to space and battle whenever you want. That would've been tits...

:(
 
Damn..the old leaked version of Battlefront 3 at least had the ability to go out to space and battle whenever you want. That would've been tits...

:(

Yeah, that would have been awesome.

But honestly, the gameplay would have not hold a candle to whatever DICE is doing. I have no doubt about that, without seeing it.
 
Damn..the old leaked version of Battlefront 3 at least had the ability to go out to space and battle whenever you want. That would've been tits...

:(

You're right no space battles is a bummer, at-least we're getting the game.

It would've been cool tough if you could take your ship to space and get matched into a space fight on your way.
 
Kotaku's Phil Owen doesn't seem hot on the demo either, much like PC Gamer.

Star Wars Battlefront Looks Cool, But I'm Not Ready To Get Excited

The footage was not really spectacular, mostly coming off as a Battlefield-like standard shooter with a Star Wars skin and a decent-looking gimmick with the AT-AT. In other words, it didn’t appear to do much that seemed particularly outlandish or surprising. It was what you would expect a new Battlefront to look like, with vehicles, aircraft and “hero” characters like Darth Vader all in a fray with masses of infantry. Had they just showed us the demo and left it at that, I likely would have thought it seemed cool and fun, given how long it’s been since we’ve had a new Star Wars shooter. Instead, they decided to talk to us about the game for a solid twenty minutes.

5 min of scripted gameplay and 20 min of prattling on about tech and authenticity. It's the same talk you hear for licensed games, like with Alien ones but here the gameplay didn't seem to be worth getting excited about.
 
Kotaku's Phil Owen doesn't seem hot on the demo either, much like PC Gamer.

Star Wars Battlefront Looks Cool, But I'm Not Ready To Get Excited



5 min of scripted gameplay and 20 min of prattling on about tech and authenticity. It's the same talk you hear for licensed games, like with Alien ones but here the gameplay didn't seem to be worth getting excited about.

So all in all he just said it looks like what you'd expect a Battlefront game would look like and he's just upset because they spent an extra 20 minutes talking about the game? I'm not seeing a real issue here.
 
Kotaku's Phil Owen doesn't seem hot on the demo either, much like PC Gamer.

Star Wars Battlefront Looks Cool, But I'm Not Ready To Get Excited



5 min of scripted gameplay and 20 min of prattling on about tech and authenticity. It's the same talk you hear for licensed games, like with Alien ones but here the gameplay didn't seem to be worth getting excited about.

This looks like made up #concerned problems. He basically says he is skeptical and he has a hunch, so be afraid too. Everyone likes when gameplay gets shown off and hands on previews come through. Don't act like they aren't going to do that. It's the first day of reveal.
 
Palpatine's murals seem to represent a much more "Tales of the Jedi" aesthetic in terms of beast riders.

Palp-frieze1.JPG


There have been various interpretations over the years. Didn't know about Ashoka's sabers but it is interesting that the color range continues to grow.

I'm not getting a real "feudal" feeling off of the Darksaber, but the others sure.

I didn't say he was an EU invention.

Furthermore, Bane's EU appearance wasn't axed because of how he looked, the conversation didn't lend itself to Sith having ghosts. Lucas felt it clashed with his Force "ideology" and opted out. It didn't work out for the character at the time so they moved on. It's finding a place for him that they decided to reintroduce the character. The aesthetic alone wasn't the reason.

The OS, up until very, very recently acknowledged that the planet has existed with several different names over the generations. Strange they edited that. Of all the changes, that pisses me off the most. It's so insignificant. Darth Icky levels of stupid.

The way it is offered implies that it's not a priority. Do I expect aesthetics to change? Sure, they changed from TotJ to KotOR, and then KotOR toToR. I do think it is telling that so many are willing to adapt things, the Revan image being proof.

I think we've gone off into a tangent about this aesthetics stuff. I was just trying to point out that, with the new canon, things are being approached differently going forward. My point is just that this is an entirely new continuity, and there's already evidence that they're putting new twists on familiar things.

I wasn't trying to argue that Bane and Revan's 2011 appearance was cancelled because of aesthetics, just that his different 2014 appearance is indicative of a new approach independent of the EU interpretation. They could have gone with the EU look as they were clearly aware of it, but they went with something new, because they were conscious that going forward this was his canon look in a new continuity.

As for the Darksaber, reminds me of a kodachi, but that's open to interpretation.

How recent?

The Old Republic we know is an institution that lasted a while.

Not sure.

Lucas intended them to be 2000 years old, but apparently Tarkin says there are some 6000 year old Sith shrine beneath the Jedi temple, so it's possible they are just as ancient as they were in the EU after all. Somehow missed that!
 
I think we've gone off into a tangent about this aesthetics stuff. I was just trying to point out that, with the new canon, things are being approached differently going forward. My point is just that this is an entirely new continuity, and there's already evidence that they're putting new twists on familiar things.

I wasn't trying to argue that Bane and Revan's 2011 appearance was cancelled because of aesthetics, just that his different 2014 appearance is indicative of a new approach independent of the EU interpretation. They could have gone with the EU look as they were clearly aware of it, but they went with something new, because they were conscious that going forward this was his canon look in a new continuity.

As for the Darksaber, reminds me of a kodachi, but that's open to interpretation.
Yeah, the conversation has taken an aesthetic angle which is probably my fault. I was attempting to point out the inconsistencies already present with what had come before. Bane has changed visually over the years, as has other elements. I recall KotOR 2 wanting to redesign the Basilisk War-droids given Obsidian's distaste for their appearance in Tales of the Jedi, and then KotOR comic(2006) changed 'em right back.

My point is that something's design has wavered enough already, so I'm use to that. Now, if the "New EU" changes things up and still gives us Bastila and HK-47, albeit it visually different, I'll be fine with that,


Not sure.

Lucas intended them to be 2000 years old, but apparently Tarkin says there are some 6000 year old Sith shrine beneath the Jedi temple, so it's possible they are just as ancient as they were in the EU after all. Somehow missed that!

We know the Jedi are older, the "1,000 Generations" line has long since established a grand sense of time. As for specific timeline, I guess only time will tell.
 
Has destruction bern confirmed? I assumed that it would be toned down or removed entirely.

Couple that with lower player count, and I'd be cautiously optimistic for a 900p/1080p split.
 
Kotaku's Phil Owen doesn't seem hot on the demo either, much like PC Gamer.

Star Wars Battlefront Looks Cool, But I'm Not Ready To Get Excited



5 min of scripted gameplay and 20 min of prattling on about tech and authenticity. It's the same talk you hear for licensed games, like with Alien ones but here the gameplay didn't seem to be worth getting excited about.

God forbid the devs talk to you for a whole 20 minutes about the game...the absolute horror that must have been for these poor journalists...

The next time there is a behind the scenes reveal, kotaku can pay to send me...I promise not to get all pissy because the Dev wanted to explain something to me and take 20 mins away from drinking myself stupid on the company black card while pretending I'm a real journalist...
 
Archaic design choice? The most popular online shooter doesn't have ADS.

Which one is the most popular and what metric are we using?


God forbid the devs talk to you for a whole 20 minutes about the game...the absolute horror that must have been for these poor journalists...

Yeah I was definitely scratching my head reading that. Comes off as extremely entitled. DICE is probably really proud of what they achieved with the engine and wants to show it off and talk about it.
 
God forbid the devs talk to you for a whole 20 minutes about the game...the absolute horror that must have been for these poor journalists...

The next time there is a behind the scenes reveal, kotaku can pay to send me...I promise not to get all pissy because the Dev wanted to explain something to me and take 20 mins away from drinking myself stupid on the company black card while pretending I'm a real journalist...

I agree. I think the tech is very important and interesting when it comes to something like this. The fact that they had access to everything in skywalker ranch is really fascinating to me. I am glad they took time to explain all of this.
 
The lack of space battles is really sad to me since I loved them in BF2. Sneaking on board the enemy capital ship and taking it out from within was something truly special and of course seeing the prototypes from Free Radical's BF3 of seamless transitions from land to space only makes it hurt more. I guess we'll probably inevitably see it in the sequel since that'd be enough of an improvement in EA's eyes. :P

Still so excited for this though. As long as they don't make it TOO similar to Battlefield that is. Hell, I really hope there's still NPC's on maps since I miss that Rancor.

Also, that AT-AT screen just reminds me of how absurd that thing is for a vehicle. Such a large body for no real reason that just gives the rebels a huge target yet they still can't get something powerful enough to hit it? Stupid rebels deserve to lose if tripping them is their great plan, but then again, so does the Empire for having a rope be your top vehicle's kryptonite.
 
yes

I'll repost this from earlier too, this is most likely one of the Jakku maps.

woah, never noticed that. just saw the sandcrawler and thought it was tatooine

ALTHOUGH, would Bobba Fett being on Jakku make sense in the timeline? I am not sure when the battle of jakku takes place in regards to Return of the Jedi
 
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