Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Official Teaser Trailer #2

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I have a feeling they are going to try and replicate a big surprise/twist to match the whole " Luke I am your father". I'm pretty sure of this. I just hope it's good and not forced just for the sake of having it.
 
16BitNova said:
I have a feeling they are going to try and replicate a big surprise/twist to match the whole " Luke I am your father". I'm pretty sure of this. I just hope it's good and not forced just for the sake of having it.
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I don't think it will be treated like that. I'm sure they have some massive twist planned, but even the teaser had Luke saying "You have that power too" so it's beyond obvious that the movie will reveal that and it's probably Rey. It won't be some earth-shattering plot point or twist, just more of a "ah okay" kind of thing, sort of like "Leia! Leia's my sister!" It wasn't as grandiose as the Vader reveal, but still interesting.
 
TAJ said:
It makes absolutely no sense for Rey to be Leia's kid. What, Leia just lost her baby like a set of speeder keys, then went "Welp..."?
Luke, OTOH, could have knocked a chick up and not even known about it.
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So you're saying there is no way a mother and a daughter could be estranged?
 
Raistlin said:
Oh wow. It's all part of what is arguably the most well known scene in all of Star Wars. Luke is fighting Vader, and Vader lightsabers his hand off right before getting Luke to realize he's his father. Luke then drops off the bridge thingy and out the exhaust shoot where he's picked up by Leia and co. Cut to scene of him in the 'sick bay' testing out his new cybernetic hand. Pretty sure it basically then rolls credits for Empire.

It's funny how memory works. It seems most people just remember 'Luke, I am your father' which isn't even the right quote to begin with lol.
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expect luke's new hand wasn't a creepy robot one.
 
Sou Da said:
It was robotic, he either removed the skin graft or it weathered off.
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Yeah it was totally a robotic hand with some sort of synthetic skin or graft to match Luke's over the top. I think Luke lost it at some point or took some damage and it has decayed and he's gone without. I still think it could be regularly available in the Universe for appendages and such but as we assume Luke is in hiding or at least 'out of touch' with the rest of the Galaxy, he probably just hasn't had the time/chance to go get it fixed up in the last 30 years.

Woorloog said:
Not to mention it (the skin anyway) got damaged in ROTJ. Perhaps he never bothered to fix the skin or just ripped it off.
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Yeah pretty early on right? When he's on sand skiff thing outside of Jabba's barge it takes some damage right? Then for pretty much the rest of the movie he's wearing a black glove over it. I bet something goes down with Luke not to long after that and he never ends up getting it repaired before he goes into what ever self induced (or not) solitude he is in once we find him 30 years later.
 
DiipuSurotu said:
If she's the leader of the Resistance, maybe she wanted her daughter to live a peaceful life away from all the fighting or something. I don't know.
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A peaceful life digging through garbage, for the daughter of a princess/ political leader? I don't buy it. She'd have a trust fund.
"I love you and want to keep you safe. Here, have a life of grinding poverty." ok
 
John Dunbar said:
expect luke's new hand wasn't a creepy robot one.
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I'm pretty sure it was always supposed to just be a synthetic covering over the robotic hand. If the wrist is entirely robotic underneath the 'skin', logically the hand is as well.

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To my knowledge there has never been any sort of Terminator-style 'living tissue over a metal endoskeleton' referenced as canon in the movies. Where it opens at the wrist, there is no blood, etc. Logically, we can presume it was damaged at some point and removed.
 
Spiritreaver said:
None of you guys have any clue what the material in the skin graft is made of. So saying it weathered off seems really weird.
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Yeah, for all we know one prosthetic broke and he got a new one. Maybe he opted for a metallic one. Maybe that is in fashion of some shit at the time. Maybe they are easier to maintain and he couldn't be pissed with the higher grade prosthetic.
 
Spiritreaver said:
None of you guys have any clue what the material in the skin graft is made of. So saying it weathered off seems really weird.
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I didn't say weather off, I suggested it was damaged and removed. But there could be all sorts of explanations.

Yes we don't know what it is made of, but we know it's not living tissue.


Or as injurai mentioned, it could simply be a full-on replacement.
 
Spiritreaver said:
None of you guys have any clue what the material in the skin graft is made of. So saying it weathered off seems really weird.
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Well he got a giant hole (damage) in what ever that graft was, on Tatooine in ROTJ, so it was already damaged back then and a bunch of the graft was missing (he covered it with a black glove)
 
It's possible Luke had the skin removed so that, in constantly being reminded of its artificiality, he will remember the example of his father (who also had a synthetic hand), and how easy it is to fall. See the end of his final duel with Vader in ROTJ.
 
Spiritreaver said:
None of you guys have any clue what the material in the skin graft is made of. So saying it weathered off seems really weird.
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The hand got shot in Return of the Jedi. The skin had a gaping hole in it, so he covered it with a glove for the rest of the movie.

Not hard to imagine that, if he didn't get it fixed, the rest of the skin would peel off over the course of 30 years. Or maybe he just pulled it off, because robot hand looks better than huge-burnt-hole-in-skin hand.

Edit: I see no need for any sort of explanation regarding the hand. It was damaged in Jedi. What we saw is one possible example of a natural progression from that damage. Period.
 
I could see an old and wisened Jedi Luke being uninterested in maintaining the appearance of a fleshy hand. It would be very monk-like not to care. Anakin's didn't have the appearance of flesh. Maybe Jedi don't care.
 
Raistlin said:
I didn't say weather off, I suggested it was damaged and removed. But there could be all sorts of explanations.

Yes we don't know what it is made of, but we know it's not living tissue.


Or as injurai mentioned, it could simply be a full-on replacement.
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I didn't say you did, "you guys" is a pretty general statement. Sou Da did, however I definitely remember at least one other post saying the same earlier in this thread.

It reminds me of when the "crossguard" saber was revealed and everyone jumped on the idea that they were crossguards when we didn't even know if that was the purpose of the design.

Now we know it's a jerry rigged and not finely crafted.
 
greatgeek said:
It's possible Luke had the skin removed so that, in constantly being reminded of its artificiality, he will remember the example of his father (who also had a synthetic hand), and how easy it is to fall. See the end of his final duel with Vader in ROTJ.
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That was my take.

Also, it looks cooler, and the hand with skin on it was totally done because it would have been too hard to give Luke a robot hand in RotJ at the time.
 
lando is on the Star Wars stream now. He hasn't seen the trailer yet so the audience yell that they show him the trailer now lol. He is a smooth guy even in his old age. I truly hope he is in one of the new Star Wars films!!
 
greatgeek said:
It's possible Luke had the skin removed so that, in constantly being reminded of its artificiality, he will remember the example of his father (who also had a synthetic hand), and how easy it is to fall. See the end of his final duel with Vader in ROTJ.
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Yup this here would be imo the best route and allow for some plot points to be made.
 
Blunoise said:
lando is on the Star Wars stream now. He hasn't seen the trailer yet so the audience yell that they show him the trailer now lol. He is a smooth guy even in his old age. I truly hope he is in one of the new Star Wars films!!
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Hell no. Despite everything Lando has done post Ep V (inc. his EU exploits), I still can't forgive that guy for selling out Han like that. It's irrational I know, but even now all these years later, I still don't trust Lando.
 
BradleyLove said:
Hell no. Despite everything Lando has done post Ep V (inc. his EU exploits), I still can't forgive that guy for selling out Han like that. It's irrational I know, but even now all these years later, I still don't trust Lando.
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Just for that, I hope he double crosses Han again right when Han gets the Falcon back.

Takes his sweet new leather jacket too!
 
BradleyLove said:
Hell no. Despite everything Lando has done post Ep V (inc. his EU exploits), I still can't forgive that guy for selling out Han like that. It's irrational I know, but even now all these years later, I still don't trust Lando.
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What, really? He was redeemed in that very movie, and then risked life and limb to save Han in Episode VI. You really hold a grudge!
 
Sephzilla said:
The First Order is a dumb name. Just call them The Empire
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The name makes sense as a sort of rebranding. They want to be seen as a force for order and stability, and can use Palpatine's death as an excuse to distance themselves from the evil, monolithic Empire.

I don't like Rebel Alliance --> Resistance though. That name change seems like a lateral move, or even a downgrade; as if they didn't make any kind of progress over 30 years to be still be considered a resistance movement instead of a legit government.
 
I was under the impression that The First Order was the Rebellion and the Resistance would be The Empire.

Because, you know, that would make sense. Guess not.
 
Blader said:
I don't like Rebel Alliance --> Resistance though. That name change seems like a lateral move, or even a downgrade; as if they didn't make any kind of progress over 30 years to be still be considered a resistance movement instead of a legit government.
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Didn't the DLC for the new Battlefront that takes place after Return of the Jedi call them the New Republic? What happened to that?
 
TheKaeptain said:
How many years did it take for Rome to die?
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Yup. I made an analogy earlier that The First Order is basically the East Roman Empire after the fall of the Roman Empire.

It doesn't really matter how long it took for the core of the empire to fall, an entity of it remained steadfast and regrouped and scaled back up.
 
raphier said:
Civilizations are destroyed in mere seconds. 30 years is quite a long time to be destabilized no matter how big of an organization.
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Yes... I'm not saying they're still destabilized. Obviously they reincorporated into the First Order, although we don't have enough info yet to say how quickly this happened.
 
injurai said:
A moisture farmer collects water during the night and morning from dew. Where it would otherwise sink into the sand and evaporate before it could be collected. I always thought it was decently self-explanatory as they are on a desert planet.
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I kinda always suspected this but that always seemed stupid to me. You're telling me that A) people live on a planet with very limited to no water and B) with all their crazy space magic technology they can't just fly water in or build some device that easily supplies water? But, whatever.

Asami208 said:
-We don't how close he was to them. He didn't seem to have much contact.
-Fair enough. Although I think that their interactions/dialogue indicates that ANH wasn't the FIRST time that Luke and Obi Wan had met. It seemed pretty clear to me even as a kid that they'd met before and knew each other at least a little bit. They don't talk/act like people who are just meeting each other for the first time.
-The Rebellion is made up of many different people from many different races/cultures. It's not at all hard to believe that they'd know about the Jedi/Force, especially since they don't buy into Imperial propaganda. And of course the PT/TCW establish that some of them (Bail Organa, Adm. Ackbar, Mon Mothma, etc) were around during the Clone Wars/interacting with the Jedi.
-I didn't have a problem with that. It's preferable to just leaving them to rot/get eaten by animals.
-Fair enough. But to be fair, the OT Stormies were just garden variety conscripts/volunteers, whereas we don't know the context for TFA ones yet. But yes, the Stormtroopers (that name usually tends to imply ELITE soldiers) were comically inept at lot of the time. It's why I stick up for Rebels whenever people complain about the "idiot Stormtroopers" in that show. They were ALWAYS incompetent.
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Alright, buddy there's no need to try and come up with in-universe explanations for this stuff the real reason is mostly just bad writing or poor direction. Ben and Luke don't give two shits about Aunt May and Uncle Ben because their only purpose in the films is to give a reason why Luke is stuck on Tatooine and later for him to have some motivation to go against the Empire. It's also the same reason Luke is all like "What's a Jedi? Cool. I wanna follow you and be one too." The plot demands he becomes a Jedi and Lucas didn't feel like wasting time with him gradually accepting the Hero's path.


But back to my Force point, I still feel that none of the movies do a good job explaining how the general public views religion. Did they all used to worship The Force? How did the Empire suppress a galaxy wide religion? Han Solo didn't seem to know much about The Force when he was speaking with Ben and Luke, he just seemed to chalk it up to other crazy shit he's heard in the galaxy. Again, it's why I find the Rebel Alliance's adherence to The Force so strange.

Oh and I wasn't saying they should't burn the Jawas, for all we know that is how they do it in their culture, it's the casualness at which C-3PO dumps the bodies that has always made me laugh. He just drops that Jawa into the big burning pile like a sack of potatoes, not giving two shits it was a living being. And then Ben is just standing there to the side like, "you good C-3PO? I'd give you hand but I'm too old for that shit, just keep piling them on."

I also want to add one more point now that I'm on that scene, specifically Ben Kenobi just letting Luke go back to his aunt and uncle's house. Ben knows that the Empire has probably gotten to them and more than likely killed them but lets Luke go off all on his own. Now, there are a number of problems with this but the main one is that how the hell does he know the Empire has already left? They could still be there waiting for Luke, maybe his uncle gave him up under torture and they were waiting for him to come back. But, whatever you could just explain it away by saying that Ben could feel through the Force that they were dead and the Stormtroopers gone.
 
foxtrot3d said:
I kinda always suspected this but that always seemed stupid to me. You're telling me that A) people live on a planet with very limited to no water and B) with all their crazy space magic technology they can't just fly water in or build some device that easily supplies water? But, whatever.
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Why doesn't the East Coast just ship out water to California?
 
foxtrot3d said:
I kinda always suspected this but that always seemed stupid to me. You're telling me that A) people live on a planet with very limited to no water and B) with all their crazy space magic technology they can't just fly water in or build some device that easily supplies water? But, whatever.



Alright, buddy there's no need to try and come up with in-universe explanations for this stuff the real reason is mostly just bad writing or poor direction. Ben and Luke don't give two shits about Aunt May and Uncle Ben because their only purpose in the films is to give a reason why Luke is stuck on Tatooine and later for him to have some motivation to go against the Empire. It's also the same reason Luke is all like "What's a Jedi? Cool. I wanna follow you and be one too." The plot demands he becomes a Jedi and Lucas didn't feel like wasting time with him gradually accepting the Hero's path.


But back to my Force point, I still feel that none of the movies do a good job explaining how the general public views religion. Did they all used to worship The Force? How did the Empire suppress a galaxy wide religion? Han Solo didn't seem to know much about The Force when he was speaking with Ben and Luke, he just seemed to chalk it up to other crazy shit he's heard in the galaxy. Again, it's why I find the Rebel Alliance's adherence to The Force so strange.

Oh and I wasn't saying they should't burn the Jawas, for all we know that is how they do it in their culture, it's the casualness at which C-3PO dumps the bodies that has always made me laugh. He just drops that Jawa into the big burning pile like a sack of potatoes, not giving two shits it was a living being. And then Ben is just standing there to the side like, "you good C-3PO? I'd give you hand but I'm too old for that shit, just keep piling them on."

I also want to add one more point now that I'm on that scene, specifically Ben Kenobi just letting Luke go back to his aunt and uncle's house. Ben knows that the Empire has probably gotten to them and more than likely killed them but lets Luke go off all on his own. Now, there are a number of problems with this but the main one is that how the hell does he know the Empire has already left? They could still be there waiting for Luke, maybe his uncle gave him up under torture and they were waiting for him to come back. But, whatever you could just explain it away by saying that Ben could feel through the Force that they were dead and the Stormtroopers gone.
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It's like you haven't seen the prequels nor did you pay attention to the dialogue in A New Hope.
 
This has probably been posted before, but, speculative as it is, I find this somewhat interesting and funny.
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