aDanByTheRiver
Member
i was wondering what the hell destroyed my frame rate while in the sub! must have turned them off and not even noticed. was the biggest frame drop ive ever had in the game.
GTA V PC Performance Thread
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i was wondering what the hell destroyed my frame rate while in the sub! must have turned them off and not even noticed. was the biggest frame drop ive ever had in the game.
Dictator93
Member
I would not doubt that those lights on the submarine use volumetric beams.
Make sure it's a good version, but you mentioned W10 which itself could be more of a factor. Shame cause Win8/7 that program or prime95 could really nail down where your instability is coming from. If it was ram in general you'd see more obvious problems.
This goes for plenty of others if your gpu can't do this test for 5-10 minutes without D3D errors your gpu is a lot more unstable than one might think.
Philtastic
Member
I agree that it sounds like a thermal issue or an unstable OC (if you're OC'ing) such that, when your card is cool, it runs fine but then, as the temperature increases, it starts to throttle and/or your OC goes funny. GTA V is a pretty stress-inducing game on both GPU and CPU so it could be revealing some flaw with your system that other games do not. The benchmark probably drops in the final portion due to a CPU-limit due to peds and traffic which is why your fps goes down even with medium GPU usage. Run Afterburner while you're playing GTA V so that you can check the graph that records temperature (and other stats).
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
I've narrowed the problem down to my OC settings. Had them set too high, temp went too high, etc. I've lowered my OC settings and now the game is running quite stable with a cool temperature. Thanks for the help, you guys! Much appreciated!
Gipsy Danger
Member
Syncs the framerate to 30 instead of 60.
ok thx for the confirmation
Did you actually stress test your OC? As GTA V shouldnt run anywhere near danger temperatures if you have.
Philtastic
Member
So after fixing up my AF and playing more today, I noticed that what seemed like locked 60 fps didn't feel as smooth as it should. I wonder if this was due to the patch as others have alluded to because I didn't notice this before while doing all of my tweaking. Whatever the cause might be, I have now turned off Vsync and capped fps to 60 with Rivatuner and it is much, much smoother. What I suspect is happening is that, even though Afterburner is reporting 60 fps, there is now something causing very momentary long frame times which Vsync then has to hold frames for resulting in stutter.
This is corroborated by the fact that I still get tearing even though I am allegedly holding 60 fps pretty steady.
Edit: Updated my 280X settings that mostly hold 60 fps with dips to ~50 in countryside and with cops here - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=160040581&postcount=1370
This is corroborated by the fact that I still get tearing even though I am allegedly holding 60 fps pretty steady.
Edit: Updated my 280X settings that mostly hold 60 fps with dips to ~50 in countryside and with cops here - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=160040581&postcount=1370
does anyone know if it's actually possible that a factory/brand OCed card would cause problems in some games?
I thought the whole point of buying a factory OC model is that it would be 100% stable???
Are you playing in full-screen or windowed? Playing full-screen might help too.
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Well I'd set the GPU limitations off and my OC settings were simply too high (new to this kind of thing). But I set the OC lower and turned back on the limitations and it's running absolutely flawlessly now. Averaging ~80 FPS.
Philtastic
Member
Always using full screen.
Coolbgdog12
Member
Anybody getting reboots from playing this?? I can't tell what's causing it, either my new CPU, or the game. I'll be playing for like 30 minutes and then suddenly the game just freezes to a all red screen. It has done this a few times.
Windom Earle
Member
It happens. It shouldn't. It means RMA.
BrettHeazy
Member
since launch I still haven't been able to play this for more then 10 minutes, driving me a bit potty now!
I was away for the weekend and have just come home to a patch which I thought might solve the issue, however no luck.
still hovering between 24-29 fps - even with everything set to normal!
spec:
CPU: i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
GPU: GeForce GTX 760
MEMORY: 8GB RAM
I was away for the weekend and have just come home to a patch which I thought might solve the issue, however no luck.
still hovering between 24-29 fps - even with everything set to normal!
spec:
CPU: i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
GPU: GeForce GTX 760
MEMORY: 8GB RAM
I have a Zotac 660ti Amp which has never been stable unless I under-clock it just a little. Its the second one I had, with the first being incredibly unstable. Never buying a Zotac card again.
Ok, i was assuming you were talking about CPU OC. You should use MSI Aferburners on screen display to show the GPU and CPU temperatures whilst gaming. GPU should not exceed 70c generally, and same with an in Intel CPU. 55c for an AMD CPU.
GPU OC is pretty trial and error, it just takes a game to use the resources differently to expose instability. Hence running a multitude of games is the only way to really test it. GTA V is exposing a memory overclock instability in my experience with Nvidia cards.
If you are talking about power and temperature limits, those are fine to maximise, of course for safety you may want to keep temperature limits reasonable (75-80c).
No, there are reports of factory OC's being unstable, but its pretty rare since the OC is extremely minor. Easiest way to diagnose is back off the clocks in MSI AB by 50Mhz and play some GTA V.
oh wow I didn't know that was possible with factory cards. I thought it was tested and 100% for sure in all games
MrTroubleMaker
Member
thanks!
I've never really used SweetFX...How crucial is that I be using SMAA? I'm currently getting a solid 1080p60 everywhere on my 2600k@4.4 and 970, but MSAA just isn't going to fit into my performance budget it seems. I have been considering going SLI, just for AA, then selling those when Pascal releases.
Windom Earle
Member
Haha, no. You can add another 10-15 easily.
980 auto throttles at 80c
Windom Earle
Member
So?
970 loses 1 bin at 70c, throttles further at 80c, but yeah you can run way higher if you desire, I don't see why when new cards hit 60-65c with stock fan curves. Hitting higher on newer cards indicates some issue.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Same. And I've had two crashes (zero before). And I swear to fuck my load time at start-up is a solid 5 minutes, which seems longer than before.
It's a tall palm tree.
This is what a shadow of a tall palm tree looks like in direct sunlight in real life:
Eeew... Looks like a ps2 game.
I'm just saying you cannot go above 80c unless a user has to download a 3rd-party program to mess with special settings
At some point, mine even dropped to 3fps, but it have only happened once. When I use the Nvidia Driver settings in GeForce Experience, it turns off txaa, and I don't have anything on Ultra.
If you don't like FXAA and want some quality without the performance hit that SMAA which is nasty according to various sites that talk about its effects. Should you want stability, more fps, or both it will get in the way.
I know it's not that helpful, but I have the same setup and it seems to work fine. I'm seeing close to 60 fps with settings near high and normal. Sometimes it can get real choppy for a few seconds and then returns to normal. I think that may be drive related. The game is installed on an average speed hard drive, the OS is on an SSD. V sync seems to keep it around 30 no matter what settings I use though.
Blak_Status
Member
I'm still getting crashes as well
Wait, the SweetFX injects SMAA as well? Are there any clean SweetFX files that don't add anything else, like sharpening, to the game, but add the SMAA? This won't get you banned either, right? Rockstar okay with the SweetFX files being used?
Forgot to add that I play online only, does Reshade with SweetFX work then? And it won't get you banned?
Forgot to add that I play online only, does Reshade with SweetFX work then? And it won't get you banned?
Yes it can inject smaa
SweetFX has lots variables you can enable and disable. I think almost anything can be done after ta
You could get banned rockstar isn't clear on what's allowed now.
My crashes stopped. Only thing I changed was forcing V-sync through Nvidia control panel and forcing AF x16.
They may come back, I don't know but today it didn't crash the whole day.
nkarafo
Member
I was wondering why it didn't look that good. Thanks for the tip.
I wonder if antialiasing is better through the control panel as well (or less demanding)
Hey, guys. I have a Radeon HD 7750 and an Athlon II X2 235e with 6GB of RAM.
If I go ahead and grab this for PC am I going to end up disappointed with the performance, or can I comfortably play this?
I'm upgrading my computer within the next 4 months. Should I hold off on this?
If I go ahead and grab this for PC am I going to end up disappointed with the performance, or can I comfortably play this?
I'm upgrading my computer within the next 4 months. Should I hold off on this?
The thread should be amended that forcing is necessary on either amd or nvidia.
AF
Vsync don't work properly unless it done that way.
Both guru3d and reddit have threads on either issue.
Being honest a PS4 would be a better experience with that current spec. That new machine in a 4 months should have a fun time if its built right.
nkarafo
Member
Honestly, if i force Vsync through the drivers, i get stuttering. The in-game Vsync works the best for me.
10101
Gold Member
I'm having a really weird issue. The game is refusing to load the very high textures for me and instead just loading the high version instead. I have a 980 & 16GB RAM & 10GB page file so I'm not memory limited. I only noticed it this evening as they looked noticeably worse than yesterday. Also looks like tessellation is switched off completely too regardless of the setting.
I have checked a couple of the images against the Gamers Nexus texture comparison shots and they are definitely the high version. Anyone had this or know of a fix?
I have checked a couple of the images against the Gamers Nexus texture comparison shots and they are definitely the high version. Anyone had this or know of a fix?
Nastrodamous
Member
specs 4770k/16gb RAM/970 SLI
getting about 90fps outside with these settings
Resolution 2560 x 1440
FXAA - off
MSAA - x2
TXAA - on
Texture Quality - Very High
Shader Quality - Very High
Shadow Quality - Very High
Reflection Quality - Very High
Reflection MSAA - on
Water Quality -very
Particles Quality - Very High
Grass Quality - High
Soft Shadows - nvidia pcss
Post FX - Normal
AF - OFF
Ambient Occlusion - Normal
Tessellation - Normal
Gonna play around with it a little more
getting about 90fps outside with these settings
Resolution 2560 x 1440
FXAA - off
MSAA - x2
TXAA - on
Texture Quality - Very High
Shader Quality - Very High
Shadow Quality - Very High
Reflection Quality - Very High
Reflection MSAA - on
Water Quality -very
Particles Quality - Very High
Grass Quality - High
Soft Shadows - nvidia pcss
Post FX - Normal
AF - OFF
Ambient Occlusion - Normal
Tessellation - Normal
Gonna play around with it a little more
Not sure where else to post this - has anyone else experienced this?
"Unable to access Rockstar servers. Activation of GTA V requires an Internet connection. Please check your connection and click Retry, or click Cancel to quit."
I've sent a tweet to @RockstarSupport (4/17) and opened a ticket with them (4/19), too. No response.
Things I've tried to resolve it (with no success):
With the VPN, I get a new message if I do not connect to the VPN to play: "The Rockstar Game Services are unavailable. Please try again later or check the GTA Online Status page for maintenance and outage notifications: https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/articles/200426246" - so I have to use VPN to play.
Anyone have any clues? There are tons of posts online about this issue but nothing I have dug up has fixed mine. I guess I'll VPN for now, but it's so stupid. No issues whatsoever playing other games (BF4 MP, Far Cry 4, etc.)...
"Unable to access Rockstar servers. Activation of GTA V requires an Internet connection. Please check your connection and click Retry, or click Cancel to quit."
I've sent a tweet to @RockstarSupport (4/17) and opened a ticket with them (4/19), too. No response.
Things I've tried to resolve it (with no success):
- Created a user account with just my first name (in case it was the Windows username issue) - attempted to install/activate/play - no go.
- Tried it on a completely separate PC.
- Disabled AV and firewall locally on my Windows PC.
- Turned off all security features of my firewall (temporarily).
- Registered game online at Rockstar Social Club (successfully).
- Downloaded "GTAV_Setup_Tool.exe" and reinstalled (I bought a retail copy).
With the VPN, I get a new message if I do not connect to the VPN to play: "The Rockstar Game Services are unavailable. Please try again later or check the GTA Online Status page for maintenance and outage notifications: https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/articles/200426246" - so I have to use VPN to play.
Anyone have any clues? There are tons of posts online about this issue but nothing I have dug up has fixed mine. I guess I'll VPN for now, but it's so stupid. No issues whatsoever playing other games (BF4 MP, Far Cry 4, etc.)...
Really..... wow it's a mixed experience for a lot users but I keep hearing forcing works best.
I have no luck with the in game sync my stuttering was worse.
Windom Earle
Member
True for the 900 series. Just saying that in general GPUs can take way higher temps. Some people tend to get scared even though it's not really warranted. EVGA themselves posted on their forums that it's no issue whatsoever to deactivate the speed throttling above 80.
Windom Earle
Member
Hmm, I swear I was playing some kind off offline mode when the servers were down the other day.
You can play offline whenever you want, he needs to activate the game first, but is having trouble connecting online to do the activation.
Stitch
Member
A few hours after launch it kicked me out of my profile while I was playing and then kicked me out of the game.
At that time I didn't really know what was going on but now that I'm reading more about it it seems that the game just doesn't let you play if it can't log into the Social Club.
That's really crappy, especially because they told several gaming sites that the game would not use any always-online DRM.
Edit: Looks like there's a "periodic verification". So it CAN be played offline, but sometimes if it didn't manage to verify your Account at some point you can't 😓
Periodic verification is still different from the one-time activation that they've promised.
At that time I didn't really know what was going on but now that I'm reading more about it it seems that the game just doesn't let you play if it can't log into the Social Club.
That's really crappy, especially because they told several gaming sites that the game would not use any always-online DRM.
Edit: Looks like there's a "periodic verification". So it CAN be played offline, but sometimes if it didn't manage to verify your Account at some point you can't 😓
Periodic verification is still different from the one-time activation that they've promised.