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Batman v Superman [Official Trailer Release]

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Yeah. In the trailer showing last night, they played the trailer a second time and Zack Snyder called out the shots that he did on IMAX cameras. The "do you bleed" shot was one and the added shot was too.
Oh god. Is this like TDKR where some of the shots were in Imax and others weren't?
It was really jarring to watch if I'm honest.
 
The freaking bat mobile

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They shoot any of this on IMAX cameras?

Oh god. Is this like TDKR where some of the shots were in Imax and others weren't?
It was really jarring to watch if I'm honest.

IMAX cameras have been spotted during their productions. And yes, it will bounce between the traditional format and the premium full-scale format. It's quite expensive to shoot on IMAX; and an even bigger headache to reserve one (only 26 cameras in the world, and the BBC has their fair share of that); gather how Interstellar has over 50 minutes of IIMAX footage for a 2.5 hour movie. My problem with Interstellar was that they would cut between the two formats in the same scene. That's jarring as hell.

So long as they capture isolated scenes (action scenes most likely), then it won't be so bad. Though his movies in the past have released on IMAX screens, this is Zack Snyder's first production using the IMAX camera.
 
Oh shit, I just realized the trailer confirms that Snyder is bringing back his trademarked slo mo for BvS.

I'm actually pretty excited because I feel he does slow mo the best and really uses it at the right moment to show poetry in the scene.
 
Looks like there's only two guns on it to me?

Ah ok, I thought I saw more but it looks like you're right, just the turret at the front. I still think it would look better without that, or if the guns were recessed into the body.

Still, digging the design and I want a better view of the whole thing
 
A lot of people here need to watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L8q7dY2MnU

While it's easy to take comfort from hearing Zack say that it's really not definitive. He didn't write the movie. He just shoots it. So if the script says Batman stomps his ass then that's what Zack is going to shoot.

As a Superman fan first and foremost and in recent times not a fan of DC's hard on for Batmanit saddens me that Supes may possibly take the L in BvS. I really hope that isn't the case. Weakening Superman is fine as long as it's done with care. Batman gains just as much credibility just for going toe to toe with Superman. Superman losing to Batman does more harm to him than good it does Batman.
 
Oh god. Is this like TDKR where some of the shots were in Imax and others weren't?
It was really jarring to watch if I'm honest.

I have no idea.

He just made a point to call out the shots that were shot natively in IMAX before the trailer ran a second time.

No clue if those were the only shots they had gotten around to or not.
 
So I really want to be excited for this movie, and I'm trying to figure out why I'm not. I love Batman, I love Superman, I more than averagely fond of the letter v, the only thing that is really stopping me is Man of Steel. So yesterday I watched it again, and decided to just forget about the bad things, and focus on the good things (like the little shockwaves around the punches - awesome).

But there's one thing that I can't forgive and I hope they just never mention again. What they did with Jonathan Kent is terrible. It's so bad. And wrong. And stupid. Clark saves a bus full of his classmates, and Jonathan gets mad. Clark asks "What was I supposed to do let them die?" and Jonathan says "Maybe."

Maybe? Fucking Maybe?!? The guy that is supposed to teach Clark to be a paragon of humanity, an icon of goodness and justice says fucking maybe? No. No no no. That's just absolutely not Raven. I can only hope that this was a Goyer thing.

All right, it's off my chest. Now I'm excited for BvS, the trailer looks good, I love the shot of Superman as Daenerys and holding up the rocket. And the Batsuit looks great.
 
DoFP depth? WTF am I reading. What is deep about DoFP?

What exactly is deep in DoFP. If you said that about First Class, I wouldn't have any issue with the statement.

I..., I am agog.

Are you seriously suggesting that DOFP had some deep themes and tackled some serious issues?

That's..., bonkers.

I don't mean to say DoFP had some really deep social commentary to it. I just mean the story to BvS won't be as complex as DoFP. DoFP did many things right. It had to bring the new and old cast together. It had to intertwine the two. It followed up the aftermath of First Class and retcon the mess that was anything between X2 and First Class. It had an emotional impact for all these characters you've followed for years. I'm also a sucker when movies rewrite history. So yeah, I doubt BvS will be as creatively told as DoFP was.

I just imagine BvS being way more straightforward, and there's nothing wrong with that, as long as the action satisfies me.
 
Yes some shots are IMAX resolution and frame size and some aren't. Only scene with the shots of bats in the armored suit and the bonus footage was IMAX, everything else was normal.
 
So I really want to be excited for this movie, and I'm trying to figure out why I'm not. I love Batman, I love Superman, I more than averagely fond of the letter v, the only thing that is really stopping me is Man of Steel. So yesterday I watched it again, and decided to just forget about the bad things, and focus on the good things (like the little shockwaves around the punches - awesome).

But there's one thing that I can't forgive and I hope they just never mention again. What they did with Jonathan Kent is terrible. It's so bad. And wrong. And stupid. Clark saves a bus full of his classmates, and Jonathan gets mad. Clark asks "What was I supposed to do let them die?" and Jonathan says "Maybe."

Maybe? Fucking Maybe?!? The guy that is supposed to teach Clark to be a paragon of humanity, an icon of goodness and justice says fucking maybe? No. No no no. That's just absolutely not Raven. I can only hope that this was a Goyer thing.

All right, it's off my chest. Now I'm excited for BvS, the trailer looks good, I love the shot of Superman as Daenerys and holding up the rocket. And the Batsuit looks great.

I think a lot of people focus too much on what he said versus why he said it.

The BvS teaser implies at the very least that Johnathan was right along.

"My father believed if the world found out who I really was they'd reject me - out of fear."

He wasn't mad that Clark saved those kids. He was just fearful for his son and how the world may treat him.
 
I think a lot of people focus too much on what he said versus why he said it.

The BvS teaser implies at the very least that Johnathan was right along.

"My father believed if the world found out who I really was they'd reject me - out of fear."

He wasn't mad that Clark saved those kids. He was just fearful for his son and how the world may treat him.

I know, that's my problem. It's such a fundamentally different take on the character and I think it's completely stupid. To my mind, Jonathan is supposed to be worried that people will fear his son and then tell him to do it anyway. People might be afraid at first, but he should teach Clark that it's his job to make people believe in him. The cynicism inherent in his character is what I hate.
 
I know, that's my problem. It's such a fundamentally different take on the character and I think it's completely stupid. To my mind, Jonathan is supposed to be worried that people will fear his son and then tell him to do it anyway. People might be afraid at first, but he should teach Clark that it's his job to make people believe in him. The cynicism inherent in his character is what I hate.

I liked the change in his character. He didn't have all the answers which is how up until MoS he had always been portrayed as. It's fine you didn't like it, it was supposed to be controversial and obviously it wasn't going to be a hit with everybody.
 
I liked the change in his character. He didn't have all the answers which is how up until MoS he had always been portrayed as. It's fine you didn't like it, it was supposed to be controversial and obviously it wasn't going to be a hit with everybody.

Well I'm glad someone did. I know that there should be characters that think the worst of Superman. That's what Lex Luthor is for, and other journalists besides Lois Lane, I just don't think it should be Jonathan.
 
I wonder if they are going to replace The Mutants that were in TDKR with the Superman worshipers or a group that hates him and are wreaking havoc post-Metropolis disaster.
 
Well I'm glad someone did. I know that there should be characters that think the worst of Superman. That's what Lex Luthor is for, and other journalists besides Lois Lane, I just don't think it should be Jonathan.

I'm not quite following your logic here. Johnathan never came across to me as thinking the worst of Clark. He was thinking the worst of people.
 
I'm not quite following your logic here. Johnathan never came across to me as thinking the worst of Clark. He was thinking the worst of people.

He was worried for his son's well being, above all else. I think his delivery of the "Maybe" line was indicative of the "parenting is the hardest job" theme the Kents tend to carry, especially if their kid is Clark.
 
I'm not quite following your logic here. Johnathan never came across to me as thinking the worst of Clark. He was thinking the worst of people.
Not necessarily the worst, but definitely not unrealistically or insanely romantic.

Jonathan would've been a teenager forming his view of the world right in the middle of the Vietnam War. He would've seen the impeachment of Richard Nixon. Gone through years of recession. He would have cringed when E.T. was the highest grossing film for 10 years and it involved the government capturing and studying an alien.

A hopelessly optimistic Jonathan isn't keeping with the times and it isn't who we are as Americans.

We believe in freedom and hope, but that doesn't mean we insist that a President travel in an open controvertible motorcade based on blind optimism. We increased our vigilance at airports in response rather than insist on unfettered flights out of idealism. Jonathan is a reasonable reaction to where we are now.
 
I'm not quite following your logic here. Johnathan never came across to me as thinking the worst of Clark. He was thinking the worst of people.

I wrote that weird. Jonathan thinks the worst of people, and doesn't think they will trust Clark. I don't like that.

Luthor and folks like him think the worst of Clark. That makes sense.

Edit: Has the thread ever stopped for this long before? Did I kill it with my half thought out argument against a character choice I didn't like? That's my bad. Remember this:

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Look how cool it looks. Let's talk about that.
 
People concerned about guns on the batmobile... Nolan's tumbler had guns as well (admittedly concealed iirc). It'd be dumb not to have it for things like clearing debris or launching tow cables or what have you.
 
People concerned about guns on the batmobile... Nolan's tumbler had guns as well (admittedly concealed iirc). It'd be dumb not to have it for things like clearing debris or launching tow cables or what have you.

Let's not forget Keaton Batman had massive bombs as well as machine guns in his Batmobile. He blows up an entire factory. Did anyone see the Batman Arkham Knight footage? His Batmobile turns into a fucking tank, literally. And yeah, the Tumbler has machineguns and rockets. The Batbike from TDK has heavy machineguns.

People argue over the dumbest things, good lord.
 
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