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$4.99, iTunes | Android | Kindle Fire
Links to Sorcery 1 & 2 can be found here
http://youtu.be/2tVoz-pI2f4
Sorcery 3: The Seven Serpents, from Inkle (80 Days) out now
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$4.99, iTunes | Android | Kindle Fire
Links to Sorcery 1 & 2 can be found here
http://youtu.be/2tVoz-pI2f4
More_Badass
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Note: for some reason, when you click the link, it says Sorcery 3 is only for iPad. That's an error. If you search for Inkle and select the link to see developer's apps, Sorcery 3 is available to purchase on iPhone. Worked fine for me
Sir_Crocodile
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Probably won't pick this up. Didn't like the libra ->animal guide change, and the fighting system is rubbish
More_Badass
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What's wrong with the fighting system? I think it's really cool. Using spells before a fight to gain an advantage and then using the clues in the text to infer what your opponent is going to do and then defending or going for a stronger or weaker strike.
suikodan
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I'm a big fan of the series and I plan on getting all volumes except that I'm not a fan of waiting for the next volume. When I was young, I could borrow all 4 books from the library and since Sorcery already came out once on the App Store from another dev and never got any updates since, I don't want to get too excited.
Awesome "games" though. Inkle are doing an excellent job so far.
Awesome "games" though. Inkle are doing an excellent job so far.
More_Badass
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Finished my first playthrough. Took 13 days to cross the wastes. Only discovered 3 of the 7 Serpents, found clues for 2, and only killed 1. Feels like I only scratched the surface.
More_Badass
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Out on Android:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inkle.sorcery3
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.inkle.sorcery3
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Good job on the bump, I would have missed the game otherwise.
So, only the crown of kings is left, right?
So, only the crown of kings is left, right?
More_Badass
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Some of the optional adventures/puzzles, listed by the devs:
- ...and defeat all Seven Serpents while you're at it!
So suffice to say, a lot of replay value and depth here. I only managed to do two of those in my first playthrough
- Learn a spell for summoning a Rock Demon...
- Meet Vancass again...
- Survive being crucified...
- Turn the jewel-studded collar into something more valuable...
- Leap across a canyon...
- Age to death, blow yourself up, and be eaten by ants...
- Turn into a snake...
- Get married...
- Create six giant invisible clones...
- Reach the summit of the highest mountain in the Horns...
- Explore the ruins under Kariamma with torchlight...
- Unravel the secret of the tombstone...
- Rescue the head in the mud...
- Finish the game with 25 maximum stamina...
- Get buried alive...
- Encounter an old friend...
- Complete the game withou using any beacons...
So suffice to say, a lot of replay value and depth here. I only managed to do two of those in my first playthrough
FlyingSaucer
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Didn't they announce a mobile port of the Grailquest book series some years ago, too ? I wonder what make them take so much time :/
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Still playing part 2 (my first one), and like it a lot. Like, really a lot.
This is awesome! Loved these as books back in the day.
So, do the prior two instalments link up to this one? Can you carry your adventure forward like you could with the books? It sounds like these are being designed very differently, and even have a different developer going from 1 to 3.
So, do the prior two instalments link up to this one? Can you carry your adventure forward like you could with the books? It sounds like these are being designed very differently, and even have a different developer going from 1 to 3.
More_Badass
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No, that was Tin Man Games, not Inkle
More_Badass
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Yes, everything carries over between games. And they're from the same dev, inkle
I had a rough start, since my stamina was low and I had no rations and little gold at the end of 2. And my god was an angry sorcerer, so that wasnt helpful either. My trip through Khare didnt go well, to say the least. On the flip side, I read impressions from someone who started 3 with over 200 gold, a bunch of magical items, and a legendary sword
Star Falcon
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Man i remember doing this book back in the day - i made it through the first 2 books but this one totally ruined me lol. When i picked up Crown of Kings (part 4) i had none of the items from part 3 so was screwed there too!
Good nostalgia trip
Good nostalgia trip
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Speaking of which, I'm always surprised these games don't support Gamecenter. Achievements would be a great way to keep track of all this stuff. Even 80 days had a very bare achievement support while it could have been more meaningful.
It's not a dealbreaker or anything, just an observation.
FlyingSaucer
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My mistake then, thanks.
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Bought but I'm not done with part 2 yet. Will have to restart since I uninstalled the game previously.
Need more inkle games on my Android phone. They seem to have a few which are iOS or tablet exclusives.
Hope part 4 comes out some time this year lol.
Need more inkle games on my Android phone. They seem to have a few which are iOS or tablet exclusives.
Hope part 4 comes out some time this year lol.
More_Badass
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One thing I really love is the magic system. It allows for some clever solutions and uses, like turning giant to climb a tower or placing a forcefield over yourself before a battle or scaring enemies away instead of fighting.
I received a review copy of Sorcery 3 and it's SUPER good. I like it more than 80 Days. The Sorcery books remain one of my absolute favorite gaming experiences of the last several years.
I started the series over and in roughly 5 evenings went through Sorcery 1, 2 and 3 back-to-back and it felt incredibly epic with lots of consequence. Choices you made and items you picked up in book 1 create pretty significant story branches in book 3. There is an easily-missable item in book 2 (The Serpent Ring) that deeply changes several significant interactions in book 3, for example.
The big gameplay twist in Sorcery 3 is that Inkle has turned it into an open world. You can go in almost any direction at any time. You're still encouraged to get through the game quickly to prevent just scouring every corner of the world map. Overall this is a design improvement - it feels better than being cut off from large portions of the city of Kahre for example, which always felt stressful. But there is a small downside to it - I needed to find a specific item to complete Sorcery 3, and I didn't know where it was. So I ended up having to tab through lots of redundant text as I criss-crossed the map.
It's a fantastic feeling to pick up more and more magic items and have a lot more flexibility in what spells to cast when, compared to Sorcery 1 when 90% of the spellbook was cut off to you.
The clue system from Sorcery 2 is also back, and feels more important and valuable. The whole point of the game is to hunt down and kill seven serpents, so unlocking a bunch of their locations and weaknesses through smart dialogue choices feels great.
My ranking would be:
Sorcery 3 = Sorcery 2 > 80 Days > Sorcery 1.
By the time this franchise is finished, completing all 4 adventures back to back is going to be a wholly unique and very special gameplay experience. There's starting to be REALLY significant story deviations, and the game can support than more than in a game like, say, Mass Effect, since the cost of supporting all those hard-to-reach deviations is so much lower - just writing some text. I can't imagine how different book 4 will feel for people based on how they did (or didn't) deal with the serpents in book 3.
Some screenshots I snapped during my adventure - note that there are SPOILERS here:
After I do my first 'as optimal as I can make it' playthrough, I think I want to do a playthrough that goes as poorly as possible. It seems crazy to me that you can lose your spellbook in Sorcery 2 and yet still keep going... intrigued as to how that would play out.
I started the series over and in roughly 5 evenings went through Sorcery 1, 2 and 3 back-to-back and it felt incredibly epic with lots of consequence. Choices you made and items you picked up in book 1 create pretty significant story branches in book 3. There is an easily-missable item in book 2 (The Serpent Ring) that deeply changes several significant interactions in book 3, for example.
The big gameplay twist in Sorcery 3 is that Inkle has turned it into an open world. You can go in almost any direction at any time. You're still encouraged to get through the game quickly to prevent just scouring every corner of the world map. Overall this is a design improvement - it feels better than being cut off from large portions of the city of Kahre for example, which always felt stressful. But there is a small downside to it - I needed to find a specific item to complete Sorcery 3, and I didn't know where it was. So I ended up having to tab through lots of redundant text as I criss-crossed the map.
It's a fantastic feeling to pick up more and more magic items and have a lot more flexibility in what spells to cast when, compared to Sorcery 1 when 90% of the spellbook was cut off to you.
The clue system from Sorcery 2 is also back, and feels more important and valuable. The whole point of the game is to hunt down and kill seven serpents, so unlocking a bunch of their locations and weaknesses through smart dialogue choices feels great.
My ranking would be:
Sorcery 3 = Sorcery 2 > 80 Days > Sorcery 1.
By the time this franchise is finished, completing all 4 adventures back to back is going to be a wholly unique and very special gameplay experience. There's starting to be REALLY significant story deviations, and the game can support than more than in a game like, say, Mass Effect, since the cost of supporting all those hard-to-reach deviations is so much lower - just writing some text. I can't imagine how different book 4 will feel for people based on how they did (or didn't) deal with the serpents in book 3.
Some screenshots I snapped during my adventure - note that there are SPOILERS here:
After I do my first 'as optimal as I can make it' playthrough, I think I want to do a playthrough that goes as poorly as possible. It seems crazy to me that you can lose your spellbook in Sorcery 2 and yet still keep going... intrigued as to how that would play out.
More_Badass
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Justin, you might want to quote those images. They're kind of big.
And nice to hear you enjoyed it so much. I didn't think Inkle would be able to top 80 Days so soon, but this feels so massive. One playthrough and I barely scratched the surface. In terms of world-building and sense of adventure, I think 80 Days is still king - the 19th century steampunk world full of political tension was just so compelling - but in every other aspect, Sorcery 3 is the best thing Inkle has done yet IMO
And nice to hear you enjoyed it so much. I didn't think Inkle would be able to top 80 Days so soon, but this feels so massive. One playthrough and I barely scratched the surface. In terms of world-building and sense of adventure, I think 80 Days is still king - the 19th century steampunk world full of political tension was just so compelling - but in every other aspect, Sorcery 3 is the best thing Inkle has done yet IMO
The Illiterati
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Thanks to this post I started the first game yesterday and bought all the rest with my Amazon coins. I really loved even playing the first one, though by the end I think I could've played a lot better. Is there a perfect path through any of these games?
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I played the first installment after getting it in a Humble Bundle, and frankly, it might be my favourite mobile game ever. It doesn't have the amazing setting and freshness of 80 Days, but it's not far off, and the actual gameplay is better; the spell usage is the main highlight.
That said, I'm not going to play Sorceries 2 or 3 until the whole series is done.
That said, I'm not going to play Sorceries 2 or 3 until the whole series is done.
It's a trade off. I loved 80 Days world and the character interactions, but I wasn't especially impressed with the item buying/selling mechanic. I think Sorcery's persistent money/stamina/inventory is a significantly more powerful system.
The idea of Inkle going on to create original RPG game-books using the Sorcery engine is incredibly appealing. They have just the right amount of "gameness" to them, in my opinion. It's fantastic that my +4 Legendary Sword I found in Khare makes combat in Sorcery 3 so much easier. It's fantastic that I can start the game broke and hungry, or filled with rations and gold.
I played through Sorcery 3 VERY thoroughly, criss-crossing the world, and I think I only did 7 of these 17 things.
The Sorcery games desperately need a deeply integrated achievements/checklist system for stuff like this. Inkle has posted similar lists for Sorcery 1 and 2, and it's maddening to see them list things you never even saw hinted at, in game. I'd happily play through multiple times to see all the branching paths, if I knew what they were.
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Slight gripe: wish there were more areas like the ones in Sorcery 2, where you'd get a smaller map of a location to explore
But knowing this game, I probably just missed a bunch
I mean, I love this game, and I loved it as a book Back in the day, but fuck. I'm getting my ass destroyed. So much of the branching paths is up to trial and error. And it feels like serious shenanigans to always 'rewind' on something if you get fucked too hard.
I'm 15 minutes into Sorcery I, I'm down to like 10 Stamina and had all my gold and provisions robbed from me. I've had to rewind just the battles so I wouldn't lose 5-7 stamina per fight.
I just suck at this, don't i.
I'm 15 minutes into Sorcery I, I'm down to like 10 Stamina and had all my gold and provisions robbed from me. I've had to rewind just the battles so I wouldn't lose 5-7 stamina per fight.
I just suck at this, don't i.
More_Badass
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Have you tried using magic before a battle? Some battles can be averted completely or made much easier by using magic before. Also pay attention to the text during fights: they provide hints at what your opponent is doing.
Also in Sorcery 1, your stamina drops automatically to 10 when you first leave the starting village. As you play through, it increases back up to 20 as you acclimate to the environment
More_Badass
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Start with the first. All your choices and gear carries over between games, so your experience in 3 could be vastly different from mine.
Jamesways
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Super LTTP, but just finished these. Been really enjoying all three.
I liked 2 the best, well, maybe tied with 3 really. I liked the more focused paths in 2. As GDJustin said above, trying to find one item near the end I had to go back parts of the map over and over.
I am proud that I
This series was fantastic though, and I can't wait for part 4.
I did part 2 twice on two devices, one time pretty much the optimal journey you could get, and one that was about as bad as you could finish it. I didn't get far in part 3 with that playthrough, it was very difficult and I scrapped it.
Peeking at walkthroughs there was some stuff I missed, but I managed to finish 3 with all serpents downed and a slew of good stuff that'll prep me well for 4 hopefully.
Great series, loved these types of books as a kid. Well worth the money.
I liked 2 the best, well, maybe tied with 3 really. I liked the more focused paths in 2. As GDJustin said above, trying to find one item near the end I had to go back parts of the map over and over.
I am proud that I
killed the Sun Serpent as well. Throwing the orb into the Water Serpent's mouth instead of oil was pretty slick.
This series was fantastic though, and I can't wait for part 4.
I did part 2 twice on two devices, one time pretty much the optimal journey you could get, and one that was about as bad as you could finish it. I didn't get far in part 3 with that playthrough, it was very difficult and I scrapped it.
Peeking at walkthroughs there was some stuff I missed, but I managed to finish 3 with all serpents downed and a slew of good stuff that'll prep me well for 4 hopefully.
Great series, loved these types of books as a kid. Well worth the money.