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Violent standoff between Cops and Protesters in Baltimore

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The police went after people throwing bricks and stuff. Those people were high school kids.

Funny how your post takes on an entirely different tone when you swap the emphasis on who the police went after. But you know that.

The reporter on the live feed literally just said the message has been lost because of this. I think that was his point.
 
On a local Maryland TV station they said there was a flyer going around telling where to meet and talking about a 'purge' like from the movie. So dumb.


Yeah the CNN reporter was talking about it too. She thought it had to do with a walkout, lol.
 
Whether it is the "right" way to handle this is besides the point, because this way is precisely the natural evolution of what has been occurring. It will always be the end result if injustices are allowed to continue long enough. And indeed, this sort of violence has resulted in meaningful changes to laws in the past. If police want to avoid this stuff, they need to functionally change their institutions - including the inherent racism hard coded into it - and begin to treat those they serve with respect and EQUALLY. But they don't. And this anger and violence will always be the natural result when those in power ignore your pleas for help against horrific injustices.

This being a sad result and not what anyone wants is besides the point, because a people will only suffer for so long before turning to violence. It's a story as old as time.
This is somewhat where my opinion lies. We've had so many protests within just a few months over the same damn shit that I really can't say I don't understand why people are reaching this point. No change has come from anything so far and people are just fed up. Whether those specifically behind starting riots out there are doing so because their opportunists or because of their feelings is up in the air now it seems but violence breaking out at these protests is coming as less of surprise to me.
 
On a local Maryland TV station they said there was a flyer going around telling where to meet and talking about a 'purge' like from the movie. So dumb.

Theres this bit and the gangs targeting police bit that screams bullshit. They keep running this to spread FUD but haven't substantiated claims yet.
 
So looting a CVS is accomplishing what?

Kids being kids.

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Wait what you mean its not the same?
 
I don't want this to happen, but I understand that it will happen, and I know that it is necessary for any chance at change.

That's pretty much where I stand. I wish there was another way for change to happen (like the way gay marriage is being legalized), but sadly many situations the only way for it to happen is through causing inconvenience and rioting.
 
This is sadly counter effective. This will only increase police militarization.

But that will happen any way. We already lost

Or worse, the police will use it as an excuse to do what they REALLY want to do and just go block to block killing civilians in a military operation. You get the feeling sometimes that the police really want to start ethnic cleansing in our cities.

But they shouldn't be given the excuse either.
 
Or worse, the police will use it as an excuse to do what they REALLY want to do and just go block to block killing civilians in a military operation. You get the feeling sometimes that the police really want to start ethnic cleansing in our cities.

But they shouldn't be given the excuse either.

What about all of the ethnic police officers? Will they be killed first or last?

Your post is hyperbolic to the point of hilarity. It adds nothing to a serious conversation.
 
This is what happens when you keep persecuting people. The 60's were chock full of race riots, and just like the 60's, the only way this is going to get better instead of worse is if we legislate some real changes to our racist system. Not just lip service.

Pretty much.
 
In my time never seen anything like the current scene in Baltimore in the US. Crazy stuff.

How old are you?

LA Riots were huge and going back farther watts, draft riots (whites attacking blacks), slave revolts, etc. This stuff has always happened. And it happens everywhere.

Its what happens with government, power figures lose legitimacy in the eyese that they serve
 
I'm not against people using anger or hitting the headlines with fire and rage to make a point. Unfortunately the popular response to black men being shot in cold blood has not been bold enough - this is bigger than small businesses and temporary inconvenience in the here and now. It's sad if innocent people get hurt, but continued injustice would be even sadder. Although kids, looters and chumps always take advantage of situations like this, the fires should burn until justice is served IMO - I'm white, I'm from the UK - but my race is the human race - I feel every solidarity.
 
Really hate this shit. I get the anger and frustration but it becomes a reason for cops demanding a Ferguson type military response.
 
It's easy to champion this sort of activity when you don't live in the area and aren't directly affected by the mayhem. I think it's become clear that opportunists are coming out in full force and taking advantage of the situation.
 
I'm not against people using anger or hitting the headlines with fire and rage to make a point. Unfortunately the popular response to black men being shot in cold blood has not been bold enough - this is bigger than small businesses and temporary inconvenience in the here and now. It's sad if innocent people get hurt, but continued injustice would be even sadder. Although kids, looters and chumps always take advantage of situations like this, the fires should burn until justice is served IMO - I'm white, I'm from the UK - but my race is the human race - I feel every solidarity.

I appreciate your comment, I really do. Thank you.
 
Pretty much.

I think part of the problem with the modern explosion is that the way teachers and schools have taught the civil rights movement has been hugely problematic. They teach Martin Luther King Jr. and nonviolence and maybe mention Malcolm X incidentally. What they don't focus on enough is just how much actual violence exploded despite the nonviolence movement. In the 60s, blacks were furious too. And just like now, sometimes protests were peaceful, but often they were extremely violent and stores were looted and people were killed.

Many people love to say bullshit like "MARTIN LUTHER KING DID IT PEACEFULLY", but it's such a comically shallow view of what actually happened that it betrays how little education these people have.

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Well we need to get started on making those changes.

I agree, but with this congress exactly what do you think will get done? :(
 
Whether it is the "right" way to handle this is besides the point, because this way is precisely the natural evolution of what has been occurring. It will always be the end result if injustices are allowed to continue long enough. And indeed, this sort of violence has resulted in meaningful changes to laws in the past. If police want to avoid this stuff, they need to functionally change their institutions - including the inherent racism hard coded into it - and begin to treat those they serve with respect and EQUALLY. But they don't. And this anger and violence will always be the natural result when those in power ignore your pleas for help against horrific injustices.

This being a sad result and not what anyone wants is besides the point, because a people will only suffer for so long before turning to violence. It's a story as old as time.
Yep. People are not robots and have limits that can be pushed to the breaking point. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I understand.
 
Yeah, I think this kind of stuff is only going to bring about change that is directly opposed to the change we want. "look at all the violence! Our police need more equipment/weapons!"

Also, the violence is anything but "besides the point" to the people living in Baltimore. That kind of thing is very easy to say on the internet.
 
Whether it is the "right" way to handle this is besides the point, because this way is precisely the natural evolution of what has been occurring. It will always be the end result if injustices are allowed to continue long enough. And indeed, this sort of violence has resulted in meaningful changes to laws in the past. If police want to avoid this stuff, they need to functionally change their institutions - including the inherent racism hard coded into it - and begin to treat those they serve with respect and EQUALLY. But they don't. And this anger and violence will always be the natural result when those in power ignore your pleas for help against horrific injustices.

This being a sad result and not what anyone wants is besides the point, because a people will only suffer for so long before turning to violence. It's a story as old as time.

It's hardcoded into the very fabric of this country, founded on a belief that certain people weren't really people. It's going to take a lot of violence to rip that scab off of the very being of this country. A lot of people are not going to let that hatred and belief of others being subhuman without force.
 
This is getting dumb. You guys do know how physics work, right? 5 lbs flying through the air at 50ish mph is enough to break a bone.
Wouldn't they be heavily clothed and armored though?

5lbs is somewhat heavier than I was thinking originally though, so that explains the disconnect.
 
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