MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO Official May 2nd

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Personally I don't have any sympathy for people who wait until the last minute to order the PPV and had prblems. I understand there are last minute decisions "hey let's get the fight" but most people know they are getting it ahead of time. Order it early and line your ducks in the pond
 
vsaintlo said:
Honest question? How often do you watch boxing? Because it's fighting doesn't make it a brawl. Unfortunately the Tyson era is long gone you can check out clips on YouTube though. Knocking out someone in boxing is not always easy as it looks especially when they are are a disciplined fighter. There is a reason he goes on 6 miles run at 3am endurance and long legs to EVADE getting hit. Even Manny implied he was not as aggressive.
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Rarely. Tyson vs Holyfield was the last boxing match that I saw. And fyi, I already had the expectation that this match was not going to be a slugfest. I know so because I heard of Mayweather's fighting style prior to the match, and I know that not to expect too many devastating punches from his weight class.

All I wanted to see was some action, but Mayweather fought too defensively. I can respect his defensive style but to watch him use it the entire match is too boring. And it found it equally horrible to watch him grab Pacquaio as much as he did when he couldn't defend himself from a flurry of punches. The latter is such a lame tactic and I hate watching that crap in MMA too.

Anyway, I just expected a more entertaining match for a match that was hyped up so much.
 
webkatt said:
Is there a rule against excessive clinching/headlocks?

I don't really recall any matches were points were taken away.
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Holding is technically illegal but is somewhat an accepted part of the sport. It's up to the referee to determine how much holding is crossing the line. When the ref determines holding is too much, they can deduct points for it, which the judges have to abide by in their scores.
 
Ultimadrago said:
Cringed hard at Mannys post interview. I like you fine, dude but come on. You weren't robbed, you lost.



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I honestly thought he was a bit hard on pac man. hes a good natured dude and I didn't feel that post interview Style was unnecessary as we all know he took an L.
 
Ferrio said:
Might want to change it or your sport will no longer bring in money. You think fans might want to be interested in having their sport popular.
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Its literally all marketing dude. Mayweather did the same thing he always does and it was huge. His next fight is going to be huge because its his 'last' and if he really does retire then someone else will get the spotlight
 
Future said:
Part of the problem is that the rules allow it to be boring to spectate. There was some excessive clinching I felt (and some headlocks wtf), but it was all in the rules.

Reminds me of the hack a shaq strategy in basketball: foul repeatedly and make a crappy free throw shooter shoot free throws. Valid, but stupid and boring to watch. Rules were changed to prevent it

Need some rules that prevent excessive clinching I think to make sure people can swing some punches. It'd be a lot more fun to watch and more action oriented if through scoring, boxers just tried to avoid clinching as much as possible
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What if 1 clinch=10% docked from total payout?
 
Pac spent the fight not throwing worthless jabs, of course he was gonna lose the points game.

ShogunX said:
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Fucking casuals man.
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That said I would watch Alvarez vs Pacquiao over this any day.
 
Tabris said:
May weather was the more technical fighter, and he definitely dominated, but it was boring boxing. At least UFC, technical fights, tend to be about trying to get out of a BJJ guard. A little more technique involved then test range jab, test range jab, test range jab, test range jab, wait, counter or hug. I barely even saw that many combinations by May weather. He didn't need them, I get that, but it was boxing.

May weather was the smarter boxer. Pacquio was the more entertaining boxer. Boxing needs more entertaining than technical right now for us casuals.

Leave the technical to olympic wrestling and UFC.

Change up the point system. Include criteria for aggressiveness to dissuade this style of boxing.
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I don't think the answer is to freeze out technical boxers from the sport. It might be more practical to shunt the sluggers to some other sport. I think Toughman still exists.
 
New002 said:
Well, isn't that the character/persona he's built for himself intentionally? The guy you love to hate! It seems to be working well for him.
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Have you seen Floyd lately? Very different from yester year I think more of this is related to just how people feel about him and domestic abuse. Again not supporting the man just an observation. My once favorite boxer is also a sometimes jack ass by the name of Zab Judah such talent wasted.
 
How was the fight "trash" when Floyd did pretty much the same things that has led him to be undefeated? Did you expect a punch-fest? Wow, some people.
 
Lev said:
Rarely. Tyson vs Holyfield was the last boxing match that I saw. And fyi, I already had the expectation that this match was not going to be a slugfest. I know so because I heard of Mayweather's fighting style prior to the match, and I know that not to expect too many devastating punches from his weight class.

All I wanted to see was some action, but Mayweather fought too defensively. I can respect his defensive style but to watch him use it the entire match is too boring. And it found it equally horrible to watch him grab Pacquaio as much as he did when he couldn't defend himself from a flurry of punches. The latter is such a lame tactic and I hate watching that crap in MMA too.

Anyway, I just expected a more entertaining match for a match that was hyped up so much.
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That's how they suckered everyone in. But very few mega fights deliver this way.
 
This was exactly like every money may fight I've seen, really boring and him on defense the entire time looking for jab counters

Shocking part was that manny was 100% controlled into fighting the exact fight money wanted and couldn't dictate a damn thing, as if he was some amateur
 
Tabris said:
Change up the point system. Include criteria for aggressiveness to dissuade this style of boxing.
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If you're the vastly more aggressive fighter and you just can't do shit to hurt your opponent you don't deserve to win.

The only thing I would change is to be more restrictive about clinching. Even if they did that Floyd would've handily won this fight, although he might've had to work a little harder in the earlier rounds to get away...which would've been more entertaining.

Baby Milo said:
Not Floyds fault those two overated fucks roach and Manny had nothing for him
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I agree. Manny had no answer for Floyd.
 
vsaintlo said:
So if Manny won by decision would it be cool?
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no. It won't be for me since Manny winning means More reasons for manny's shit politician friend to convince him to run for Philippines presidency and abuse the shit out of him.


I just want to be entertained and feel, the 5 years wait is worth it. I didn't.

I still think that match is boring.
 
Ferrio said:
Might want to change it or your sport will no longer bring in money. You think fans might want to be interested in having their sport popular.
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They just brought in $400 mill I think was the number being thrown out. Money is no issue to them, despite what people say after every Mayweather fight.
 
foxtrot3d said:
That sounds like some rose tinted horseshit view with a pinch of salt.
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Bull shit, and even the most hardcore of boxing fans in the world will tell you boxing is dead now compared to what it was.

This isn't some big mystery, people watched it non stop. Boxing was fucking huge. People now days don't realize how massive boxing once was. There were wars and they happened all the time.

I forgot anyone who doesn't like this fight are "casuals". Someone go tell Oscar and Tyson how big of casuals they are.
 
BkMogul said:
How was the fight "trash" when Floyd did pretty much the same things that has led him to be undefeated? Did you expect a punch-fest? Wow, some people.
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To be fair, the marketing billed it as "the fight of the century." Also most the viewers were people who (like me) don't follow boxing and are basing their knowledge on Ali/Foreman/Sugar Ray, etc clips.
 
Jest Chillin said:
Goldenboy co-promotes a lot of Mayweather's fights.
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And yet he always takes a shot at Mayweather every chance he gets.

"I created the blueprint to defeat Mayweather."

"My mind says Mayweather, but my heart says Pacquiao."

They co-exist to make money - but they certainly don't like each other.
 
harSon said:
And yet he always takes a shot at Mayweather every chance he gets.

"I created the blueprint to defeat Mayweather."

"My mind says Mayweather, but my heart says Pacquiao."

They co-exist to make money - but they certainly don't like each other.
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They both hate Bob Arum though with a passion.

That's something lol.
 
Obliterator said:
Bull shit, and even the most hardcore of boxing fans in the world will tell you boxing is dead now compared to what it was.

This isn't some big mystery, people watched it non stop. Boxing was fucking huge. People now days don't realize how massive boxing once was. There were wars and they happened all the time.

I forgot anyone who doesn't like this fight are "casuals". Someone go tell Oscar and Tyson how big of casuals they are.
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Baseball used to be huge too. I'd bet my left nut that if you went back in time you'd see the same boring ass boxing fights as we see now. Yes, you'd see a great Ali fight every now and then but I doubt that was the norm. Those "great" sports lost interest when other competing and more exciting sports took their place.
 
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