MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO Official May 2nd

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BadAss2961

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Yes. Because most want to see Mayweather lose, and Pacquiao has a better chance at making that happen than any other welterweight currently in the sport.
I wouldn't say that anymore, not after last Saturday. Manny turned out to be one of Floyd's easier fights.
 

Frog-fu

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I wouldn't say that anymore, not after last Saturday. Manny turned out to be one of Floyd's easier fights.

This.

For all his dirty fighting, it was Maidana that gave Mayweather his toughest fights in recent memory. Pacquiao looked pretty bad. Not as bad as Canelo, but not much better either.
 
This.

For all his dirty fighting, it was Maidana that gave Mayweather his toughest fights in recent memory. Pacquiao looked pretty bad. Not as bad as Canelo, but not much better either.

But don't you guys think that now Pacquiao knows how Mayweather fights, being there in the ring he can adapt and adjust his ways next time? Then again easier said then done.

I for one would watch it again as long as its free, but not if I have to pay 100 bucks
 

kodecraft

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But don't you guys think that now Pacquiao knows how Mayweather fights, being there in the ring he can adapt and adjust his ways next time? Then again easier said then done.

I for one would watch it again as long as its free, but not if I have to pay 100 bucks


It's the other way around. Now that Mayweather knows how Pac fights he can beat him even easier.
 

flkraven

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But don't you guys think that now Pacquiao knows how Mayweather fights, being there in the ring he can adapt and adjust his ways next time? Then again easier said then done.

I for one would watch it again as long as its free, but not if I have to pay 100 bucks

Mayweather won 48 fights before this one. Manny knew exactly who he was fighintg. How is he going to adjust and adapt when Mayweather's MO is to literally learn and adapt to the fighters in the ring with him. If anyone is benefited from having fought previously, it's Mayweather.

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It's the other way around. Now that Mayweather knows how Pac fights he can be at him even easier.
 

Frog-fu

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But don't you guys think that now Pacquiao knows how Mayweather fights, being there in the ring he can adapt and adjust his ways next time? Then again easier said then done.

I for one would watch it again as long as its free, but not if I have to pay 100 bucks

People have been saying and hoping this for years but no matter how much they study Mayweather, it doesn't do much help. In fact, in their rematch, Maidana fared worse than before and took place only 4 months after their first bout. It's going to take someone who not only can hit faster than Mayweather can dodge, but can also figure out a way of dictating the pace without getting tagged.
 

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BadAss2961

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But don't you guys think that now Pacquiao knows how Mayweather fights, being there in the ring he can adapt and adjust his ways next time? Then again easier said then done.

I for one would watch it again as long as its free, but not if I have to pay 100 bucks
I don't think Manny's the type of guy that makes adjustments. Even when he's tried to do something else and box more, he ends up reverting back to his two main modes -- aggressive, and more aggressive.

Floyd is just a bad matchup for him. Manny's always the small guy at welterweight, but always has the tremendous advantage in hand speed. Floyd is not only taller and longer, but he's also much smarter in the ring and has the footwork and reflexes to negate Manny's hand speed.
 

paolo11

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I don't think Manny's the type of guy that makes adjustments. Even when he's tried to do something else and box more, he ends up reverting back to his two main modes -- aggressive, and more aggressive.

Floyd is just a bad matchup for him. Manny's always the small guy at welterweight, but always has the tremendous advantage in hand speed. Floyd is not only taller and longer, but he's also much smarter in the ring and has the footwork and reflexes to negate Manny's hand speed.

Money May is always a bad match up to anyone. He is S tier like Evil Ryu in USF4.

Nice avatar btw.
 

Frog-fu

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Welp, there's that but the majority of the world thinks he's the coward and this will probably reinforce that.

The majority of the world are idiots so nothing new on that front. If I were Mayweather, I wouldn't be inclined to rematch either if my opponent bitch and moaned like a sore loser and made excuses as to the circumstances of his loss rather than accepting he was bested fair and square.
 
The majority of the world are idiots so nothing new on that front. If I were Mayweather, I wouldn't be inclined to rematch either if my opponent bitch and moaned like a sore loser and made excuses as to the circumstances of his loss rather than accepting he was bested fair and square.

Majority matters More though so...



And perhaps he's a sore winner and a coward? I mean you beat him once "quite easily" what's to be afraid of?

Beat him twice and you'll really shut up everyone up and expose the excuses from the first match. What's to lose?

Plus we don't know for sure if what pac said is true or false. Maybe it's Lousy excuse or maybe he was really injured before the fight. You don't know and neither do I.
 
Petrocelli said that Pacquiao was examined by doctors before the fight and was proved to be physically able, but re-injured his shoulder during the bout. That the public was unaware of Pacquiao's original injury is immaterial, Petrocelli said.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12827249/two-fans-file-class-action-lawsuit-manny-pacquiao-undisclosed-injury

Is it just me or is that not what they said after the fight? First it was denied medication for an injury that was bother him long before the fight and was the reason for his poor performance and now he was good to go and Mayweather is the one that busted his shoulder. Pacqiauo team just backtracked something serious. That lawsuit has them legit shook.
 

Frog-fu

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Majority matters More though so...



And perhaps he's a sore winner and a coward? I mean you beat him once "quite easily" what's to be afraid of?

Beat him twice and you'll really shut up everyone up and expose the excuses from the first match. What's to lose?

Plus we don't know for sure if what pac said is true or false. Maybe it's Lousy excuse or maybe he was really injured before the fight. You don't know and neither do I.

No, it doesn't matter. At all. Mayweather and Pacquiao stepped into the ring. The former stepped out victorious and the latter did not.

Mayweather has nothing further to prove, and that's the point.
 
If wanting a rematch is cowardice then what do you call punching women who love you?
I always roll my eyes at people who voice this opinion, but will still revere and worship other athletes with histories of violence or domestic abuse. People in here are sucking Mike Tyson's dick these days; fucking hypocrites.
 

paolo11

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NO to rematch!!!!


First, Pac lost fair and square. No excuses. I'm a Pac fan and will always be but let's be honest here and give credit to the winner. Money May did not win by luck nor by cheat. He won by dominating the opponent. He outboxed him.

Second, don't you lose a lot of your former power if the shoulder is injured and had recent tear injury?
 

kinggroin

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No rematch. Thank God.

Horrible matchup if the first 6 rounds were anything to go by. There have been far more engaging opponents for Floyd; sorry to say, but Manny's size make the disadvantage too hard to overcome with just foot and hand speed.

Now, let's see who each fight next.
 

dream

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I dunno, kinggroin. I agree with PBF: Manny is a coward and a loser (both sore and otherwise). But I think there's just too much money in a rematch for PBF to not give the loser another shot.
 

paolo11

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I dunno, kinggroin. I agree with PBF: Manny is a coward and a loser (both sore and otherwise). But I think there's just too much money in a rematch for PBF to not give the loser another shot.

I agree Pac is a sore loser but I'm not sure why he is a coward doe.... :^)
 

kinggroin

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I dunno, kinggroin. I agree with PBF: Manny is a coward and a loser (both sore and otherwise). But I think there's just too much money in a rematch for PBF to not give the loser another shot.

Sore loser sure. Not sure I agree about cowardice. You'd have to point to examples as to why.


I guess we'll see if Floyd wants to break Marciano's record the easy way (not pacquiao) or the easier way (pacquiao) :-D
 

paolo11

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Side topic about Money May. My opinion about him is he may be one of the best defensive boxers in the history of boxing. I think he is better than Whitaker or Pryor. Just my opinion.

I guess the reason why is Money May never got his faced screwed up or knock down (except when his hand got injured when punching the forehead) by a punch.
 

ss_lemonade

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Wouldn't such a shoulder injury severely limit your ability to use your arms properly? 4th round was really early but it didn't look like it bothered Pacquiao. He was still throwing punches fairly quickly, a lot were just not hitting unfortunately. Even Mayweather mentioned not noticing in that article

Mayweather said, "Absolutely not. He was fast. His left hand was fast. His right hand was fast, and he was throwing them both fast and strong. Excuses, excuses."
 
No, it doesn't matter. At all. Mayweather and Pacquiao stepped into the ring. The former stepped out victorious and the latter did not.

Mayweather has nothing further to prove, and that's the point.

It does matter if you care about the future growth of a sport which many see as dieing.

But whatever rematch or not, it would most probably be another bore fest and nobody's gonna lose sleep over it
 
Wouldn't such a shoulder injury severely limit your ability to use your arms properly? 4th round was really early but it didn't look like it bothered Pacquiao. He was still throwing punches fairly quickly, a lot were just not hitting unfortunately. Even Mayweather mentioned not noticing in that article

Less punches thrown than his other matches. Less punches thrown than Mayweather.
 

flkraven

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Wouldn't such a shoulder injury severely limit your ability to use your arms properly? 4th round was really early but it didn't look like it bothered Pacquiao. He was still throwing punches fairly quickly, a lot were just not hitting unfortunately. Even Mayweather mentioned not noticing in that article

Also if you keep an eye on Manny's corner, not once was the shoulder mentioned. Not by the trainer, not by Manny, not by anyone. If the shoulder was a concern pre-fight, wouldn't they be asking 'Hey, how does it feel?' after every round? If Manny had a massive injury in the 4th round, wouldn't he immediately tell them after the round?
 
Pacquiao could have been in a coma and they still would of fought. They used the injury as leverage for a rematch but forgot one of the primary reasons boxing is a thing.

It would be like what, a year before a rematch would be physically possible?
 

MVP

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lol @ this thread still going on

Manny loses to Mayweather 10 times out of 10. As much as I dislike Floyd's style of fighting, he put that debate to rest last Saturday, Manny would have never beaten him, even in his prime, even at 100%.
 

justjohn

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You keep on giving with the bullshit. Pacquiao lost. Your man stepped to the best and was made to look like a rank amateur, no different than most purported to be "the one" to take Mayweather down a peg or two.
Golovkin is now their new hope. Lmao
 
There is no reason for a rematch. The fight simply wasn't that competitive. Even if the injury complaints are legitimate, I honestly don't think that the fight would have looked much different, and certainly don't think the outcome would be different.

Fans should move on. The sport should move on.

Thurman is an intriguing matchup for May's 49th - let's see it.
 

kodecraft

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There is no reason for a rematch. The fight simply wasn't that competitive. Even if the injury complaints are legitimate, I honestly don't think that the fight would have looked much different, and certainly don't think the outcome would be different.

Fans should move on. The sport should move on.

Thurman is an intriguing matchup for May's 9th - let's see it.


I like Kel Brook over Thurman for Mayweather fight.
 

Frog-fu

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It does matter if you care about the future growth of a sport which many see as dieing.

But whatever rematch or not, it would most probably be another bore fest and nobody's gonna lose sleep over it

Mayweather is under no obligation to care about the future of boxing. He has already gone on record on numerous occasions that he doesn't have love for the sport anymore. It's just a job.

Sure, he's invested to some degree since he has his own promotion company and fighters, but he probably understands that boxing has survived the loss of many great fighters that dominated the game, and his retirement and that of Pacquiao without a rematch will be no different. Boxing will be fine without him.

Golovkin is now their new hope. Lmao

Of course he is, lol.
 
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