Dude, Floyd had no chance of losing, and he clearly dominated Manny, I don't know what match you watched.
MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO Official May 2nd
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Dude, Floyd had no chance of losing, and he clearly dominated Manny, I don't know what match you watched.
Agreed. Vegas has to much money on him
To let him
Lose
You apparently score points for running away from your opponent
Indeed, I just saw a few rounds from the match, how the fuck did they drop the ball so hard?
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My 5 point take away
1) Floyd is the bigger fighter and used that to his advantage
2) Floyd played his game to a T where Manny needed to go HAM and didn't.
3) Floyd deserved the win with how it played out
4) That being said the ref blew and should have warned Floyd in like round 2 on care bear stare and hugs a lot move
5) The fight played out pretty much by the #s but the general populous didn't really know that's how it was gonna go down. Don't these people to care about boxing again anytime soon.
1) Floyd is the bigger fighter and used that to his advantage
2) Floyd played his game to a T where Manny needed to go HAM and didn't.
3) Floyd deserved the win with how it played out
4) That being said the ref blew and should have warned Floyd in like round 2 on care bear stare and hugs a lot move
5) The fight played out pretty much by the #s but the general populous didn't really know that's how it was gonna go down. Don't these people to care about boxing again anytime soon.
theignoramus
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EASTC0AST_GH05T
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He said he gave 8 rounds to pac, LOL! man I really dislike Floyd but he clearly out boxed Pacquiao. Those few moments where pac threw flurries Floyd blocked almost everything. Pacquaio has had way better fights then this one.
chromatic9
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Yeah, I think Manny should've threw in the Kitchen sink for 6 rounds. At round 7 Mayweather had this in the bag.
Much of the talk pre fight was how Manny should be in and out as every other fighter who tried to rush in failed but that's Manny strength. He was never going to box better.
Also feel the corner let him down. Usually they tell you you're down on points so go for it but they didn't and the fight continued the same. Roach had a game plan but failed.
Yeah, man. Such a shame... The dude that gave 118-110 to Maywether should be ashamed of himself.
They'd just hug each other and dance some tango.
Ultra Numb
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I see it a lot. People see the flurries and assume "domination"
No. A lot of the time he wasn't hitting shit. As much as I like Pac, he got outboxed and to be honest it was somewhat one sided. I had him only winning two, maybe three rounds.
He was playing Mayweathers game, when he should of been playing the Pacman game - he needed to bring the fight up to his pace, he couldn't. He gave it a good try, he just didn't perform good enough.
No. A lot of the time he wasn't hitting shit. As much as I like Pac, he got outboxed and to be honest it was somewhat one sided. I had him only winning two, maybe three rounds.
He was playing Mayweathers game, when he should of been playing the Pacman game - he needed to bring the fight up to his pace, he couldn't. He gave it a good try, he just didn't perform good enough.
Agreed. Floyd dominated the first 3 rounds. MP came on strong during rounds 4-6 (although Floyd won round 5). That was MP's window to hurt Floyd and he just didn't do enough in rounds 7 & 8 to win the fight. Floyd's endurance is unparalleled. You have got to hurt him/score your points in the early rounds and hold on in the latter part of the fight, easier said than done.
Bubba_Sparks
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Paquiao had no answer for Floyd's tactical skill. The fight being "boring" completely rests on him, as he allowed Floyd to sit back and do what he always does. To make this fight interesting, Paquiao had to keep Floyd cornered, land flurries and prevent the tie-up. He literally did none of those things, and that let Floyd set up shop and go to work. I don't really know what else to say.
Lol at the people complaining.
A) the decision was clear. Any boxing fan with half a brain knows Mayweather dominated this fight.
B) Manny knew exactly who he was fighting. He didn't follow through on the correct game plan.
C) this was a decent fight for fans of boxing. No knock out, no blood, but the technical side was a marvel to watch and Floyd put on a fucking clinic
D) lol at the people saying fuck boxing and that the rules need to change. Lol @ reduced purse sizes for no knockout. Get the fuck out of here with that. This is entertainment. Do you watch any other sport with this mentality? In a defensive, low scoring hockey game do you complain that there shouldn't be offsides, the net should be 4 feet bigger, and players shouldn't be paid if there isn't atleast 1 fight?
Also, just read some news. Apparently Manny was injured before fight?
A) the decision was clear. Any boxing fan with half a brain knows Mayweather dominated this fight.
B) Manny knew exactly who he was fighting. He didn't follow through on the correct game plan.
C) this was a decent fight for fans of boxing. No knock out, no blood, but the technical side was a marvel to watch and Floyd put on a fucking clinic
D) lol at the people saying fuck boxing and that the rules need to change. Lol @ reduced purse sizes for no knockout. Get the fuck out of here with that. This is entertainment. Do you watch any other sport with this mentality? In a defensive, low scoring hockey game do you complain that there shouldn't be offsides, the net should be 4 feet bigger, and players shouldn't be paid if there isn't atleast 1 fight?
Also, just read some news. Apparently Manny was injured before fight?
BobTheFork
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I don't think enough boxing matches even exist any more for anyone to be a 'hardcore' fan. Nothing but casual bitching at casuals in here.
$$$ won, no question. Pac just wasn't active enough. He got a few good combos in but not nearly enough to turn a decision.
$$$ won, no question. Pac just wasn't active enough. He got a few good combos in but not nearly enough to turn a decision.
His camp is now saying he had a shoulder injury, I think this is mostly to try to set up (and hype) a rematch.
And while there might be some truth to that (I honestly have no idea) the way the fight played out, I think it's a bit hard to try to pin it on a bum shoulder. But you never know with such things, injuries can mess up your gameplan pretty quickly.
Given the amount of times that "low scoring games = boring" crops up in threads about football/soccer on NeoGAF, from a mostly American audience, this comment is pretty interesting.
Zok310
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No wonder why Floyd hates their asses.
I could hardly make it through that video, so pathetic.
He was better off just taking the L and giving Floyd his due credit.
After that vid I lost a shit ton of respect for the man.
entremet
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Well, at least in America, many of the majors sports have undergone rules changes to make them more offensive and exciting.
The NBA got the shot clock, removed hand checking
The NHL is always tinkered with it's rules.
The NFL is a passing league
And MLB was most dominant during the steroid/long ball era.
In the end, sports are businesses and that's why they make these changes.
Future PhaZe
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pac was an embarrassment
Keith Thurman is no fucking joke though, i'd like to see that one for May and I'd actually be concerned for him
Keith Thurman is no fucking joke though, i'd like to see that one for May and I'd actually be concerned for him
Lmao, this is ridiculous. Manny got dominated for the majority of the fight. If your criteria for who won is based on the guy flailing his arms around and missing a lot, then sure, Manny got that hands down.
People say this every time Mayweather fights, yet he continues to get people to pay to watch.
pants
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I watched the fight, it really wasnt.
Crimson_Gold
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Pretty much this. I watched the fight with plenty of Manny fans and they even admitted that he lost. He never mounted a real offense because the jab shut him down. That's just how it is.
Lennox Lewis: "Some people want blood and get disappointed when they don't get it. Doesn't take away from fact that Floyd is a great technician."
And people always complain about the "big fight" after having paid money for it, "Never again....boxing is dead". Then they go ahead and buy the next 'big' fight. Suckers.
And people always complain about the "big fight" after having paid money for it, "Never again....boxing is dead". Then they go ahead and buy the next 'big' fight. Suckers.
Phat Michael
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I'm getting a boner reading this thread. It's glorious.
oh my
CitizenCope
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Surprised anyone thought Pac won.
Your Entertainer
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And Manny is an anti-gay, bible-thumping compulsive gambler.
Get out of here with that ridiculous high-horse attitude. We are here to watch two prize-fighters have a fist fight. Doesn't concern me what the fuck they do outside of the ring, and it shouldn't matter.
Are you gonna turn around and tune in to the NFL right after typing this like most people with this attitude?
Battersea Power Station
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That's not correct at all. For an aggressive volume puncher like him to restrain himself and use so much caution took tremendous discipline. Unfortunately it was absolutely the wrong approach for fighting Mayweather; Manny couldn't feel he was losing the fight because he doesn't have the experience utilizing the low output style. Floyd was fantastic in his execution.
I think people over estimate it hurting boxing honestly. Not sure I buy people really following the likes of GGG, Kovalev, Pascal, Ward, Fury etc etc if Manny won. Most likely these aren't boxing fans, just Manny Pacquiao fans and/or Floyd Mayweather haters.
What Al Haymon is doing however, THAT will bring more fans to the sport. Making it accessible with good talent and great matchups with less politics in the way (mostly since its under one promo banner).
*sigh*
Wish folks would use critical thinking a little more when it comes to things like this. We are 48 fights into Mayweather's career, people. You can't possibly be surprised things turned out that way.
And if you're serious about what you consider good boxing, JUST ASK! we can point you to contemporary slugfests and high energy boxers that would show you that the sport is just as exciting as ever.
Crimson_Gold
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Is this applied to every athlete or just Mayweather? Sports is littered with horrible people in both individual and team sports, but people continue to cheer for these people. I'm no fan of the man's character, but he is extremely talented and that's why he wins. I can't allow my personal judgments to impact the reality that his skill is what will determine the outcome, not my feelings about him.
Your Entertainer
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Do you have an actual rebuttal with a point or not? Lol.
NervousXtian
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People who think Manny won... that's funny.
Clear win for Floyd, he made Manny look out-right basic.
Floyd's a piece of shit, yes.. he had a horrible upbringing.. his mom was a drug addict, his dad was in and out of jail.. all he had was boxing and horrible role-models.
Clear win for Floyd, he made Manny look out-right basic.
Floyd's a piece of shit, yes.. he had a horrible upbringing.. his mom was a drug addict, his dad was in and out of jail.. all he had was boxing and horrible role-models.
Your Entertainer
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You missed the entire point of my post.
What is done outside of the ring shouldn't matter. You didn't address that at all.
You also clearly don't know much about Mannys past.
Winterfang
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I don't see how people though Manny won, Mayweather landed more punches and that's what too to win. Manny did had him on the ropes and connected a fight hits, but Floyd doesn't box to please a crow or to knock someone out, he displays a show for the judges.
Cyber Caesar
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Manny could have went all out and we would have respected that. Manny will regret he didn't apply more pressure on Floyd.
King Gilga
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Wait so who won? I didn't see the fight.
Oh floyd kk.
Oh floyd kk.
Surprised by Mannys lack of power.
Even though Floyd dominated the fight he also seemed to lack any serious power. Even when he was being more aggressive it did not seem like he seriously hurt Manny.
Fight went the way most people predicted.
For my money Roy Jones was a million times more entertaining and dominant than Floyd in his prime. Though Floyd is going to have the last laugh as he still racked up a ton of money and is one of the few boxers who is walking away with his brain intact. But that said he was always a boring fighter. People only watch his fights because of the villain schtick and with the slim hope that someone might actually KHTFO.
The basketball game was far more entertaining.
Even though Floyd dominated the fight he also seemed to lack any serious power. Even when he was being more aggressive it did not seem like he seriously hurt Manny.
Fight went the way most people predicted.
For my money Roy Jones was a million times more entertaining and dominant than Floyd in his prime. Though Floyd is going to have the last laugh as he still racked up a ton of money and is one of the few boxers who is walking away with his brain intact. But that said he was always a boring fighter. People only watch his fights because of the villain schtick and with the slim hope that someone might actually KHTFO.
The basketball game was far more entertaining.
The casual consumer will never pay for a fight again after watching that fight. There was nothing exciting about it and that's not how you draw in a new audience and grow the sport. That did nothing to help boxing except for the people who got their pockets lined with big money.
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