AP: NFL finds it probable that Patriots deliberately deflated balls

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I'm just tired of the Pats taking the cheating reputation. Back in my day the Raiders were the cheaters and that's the way we liked it.
The tuck rule was the changing of the guard. After that the Raiders could not do anything right. I am sure they wanted to continue cheating they were just too incompetent to do so.

The big difference between the two franchises is that Raider fans were always cognizant of the fact that they were cheating thugs. Patriot fans always denied every allegation and pretended that it was jealousy of the other teams that drove the narrative that they were cheating cunts. Now I think all reasonable people must admit they the gold standard of cheating in the NFL. Hopefully Pat fans can get there one day too.
 
If Goodell was smart and just the punishment of the Pats would be that Tom Brady would be forever banned from the league and finned $50 billion dollars, the Patriots would get to keep their tainted titles but an asterisk would be placed next to each of their wins during the Cheat and Brady era and their names would be officially changed to the Cheating Cunts, and Kraft is forced to give up all contact with the team for the next 10 years.

Amen
 
The tuck rule was the changing of the guard. After that the Raiders could not do anything right. I am sure they wanted to continue cheating they were just too incompetent to do so.

The big difference between the two franchises is that Raider fans were always cognizant of the fact that they were cheating thugs. Patriot fans always denied every allegation and pretended that it was jealousy of the other teams that drove the narrative that they were cheating cunts. Now I think all reasonable people must admit they the gold standard of cheating in the NFL. Hopefully Pat fans can get there one day too.

That's a pretty true assessment.

The Raiders played the heel part really well. Their mascot, owner, and fanbase all knew the deal. The team was also associated with gangster rap even.

Pats fans just need to embrace their legacy.
 
If this was any team but the Patriots nobody would give a rip.. and that's the whole story.
 
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Too soon?
 
The tuck rule was the changing of the guard. After that the Raiders could not do anything right. I am sure they wanted to continue cheating they were just too incompetent to do so.

The big difference between the two franchises is that Raider fans were always cognizant of the fact that they were cheating thugs. Patriot fans always denied every allegation and pretended that it was jealousy of the other teams that drove the narrative that they were cheating cunts. Now I think all reasonable people must admit they the gold standard of cheating in the NFL. Hopefully Pat fans can get there one day too.
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Wouldn't it be easier to just admit that the NFL is a like a microcosm of America, it's a fixed game where the rich and powerful always get what they want and win? There's obviously no integrity of sport left in the NFL at this point, they might as well just make it like pro wrestling and just have everything be staged.
 
The tuck rule was the changing of the guard. After that the Raiders could not do anything right. I am sure they wanted to continue cheating they were just too incompetent to do so.

The big difference between the two franchises is that Raider fans were always cognizant of the fact that they were cheating thugs. Patriot fans always denied every allegation and pretended that it was jealousy of the other teams that drove the narrative that they were cheating cunts. Now I think all reasonable people must admit they the gold standard of cheating in the NFL. Hopefully Pat fans can get there one day too.
You make no sense, how is a rule considered cheating on the Pats behalf? shitty rule yes but it was in the rule books and the officials dedided to review the play right away. You can say it all started with spygate, Nobody had control over the tuck rule but the officials themselves.
 
Wouldn't it be easier to just admit that the NFL is a like a microcosm of America, it's a fixed game where the rich and powerful always get what they want and win? There's obviously no integrity of sport left in the NFL at this point, they might as well just make it like pro wrestling and just have everything be staged.
Well, basically everyone involved is rich and powerful, so that part of the analogy doesn't work.

But Kraft and his buddies in the league office seem to have the lack of integrity part down solid!
 
Well, basically everyone involved is rich and powerful, so that part of the analogy doesn't work.

But Kraft and his buddies in the league office seem to have the lack of integrity part down solid!

Compared to you and me, yes everyone is rich and powerful. But in terms of the relative wealth and power within the NFL, the Patriots are much richer and more powerful than the Raiders and look how well those two teams have done since Tuck Rule.
 
Compared to you and me, yes everyone is rich and powerful. But in terms of the relative wealth and power within the NFL, the Patriots are much richer and more powerful than the Raiders and look how well those two teams have done since Tuck Rule.
Have the Pats orginization always been richer then the Raiders?
 
The league should punish Tom Brady by making it illegal for him to pass the ball to a receiver that is less than 5 yards past the line of scrimmage. He'd complete like 8 passes on the season.
 
LOL, after all the whining from the pats about the revis "tampering". The pats are just a bunch of crybabies that whine about every little hint of a infraction by any other team while cheating all season and then try to act like it's no big deal.

If the jets owner saying he would like to have revis back, after being directly asked the question by a reporter, is "tampering" and results in a 100K fine; then the pats deflating balls to help their quarterback every game should result in draft pick loses and a hefty fine.
 
DeflateGate Odds:
Tom Brady Punishment Odds:
Not Suspended: 5/2
Suspended 1 game: 2/1
Suspended 2 games: 5/2
Suspended 3 games: 8/1
Suspended 4+ games: 15/1

New England Patriots Punishment Odds:
Loss of Round 1 draft pick in 2016: 3/2
Loss of mid-round draft pick(s) (Rounds 2-4) in 2016: 1/1
Fined under $1 million: 1/1
Fined over $1 million: 2/1

Bill Belichick Punishment Odds:
Suspended – 4/1
Not Suspended – 2/9

Robert Kraft Punishment Odds:
Suspended – 5/1
Not Suspended – 1/6

Jim McNally and John Jastremski Punishment Odds:
Suspended – 1/1
Fired – 1/1
No Discipline – 15/1

NFL Policy Odds
Will the NFL change its ball inflation policy for 2015-16 season: 1/3
http://www.footballbettingcenter.com/news/deflategate-odds-how-will-brady-pats-staffers-be-punished/
 
Brady: 3-4 game suspension
Pats: $300k fine + 1st round 2016 pick

You really think the NFL Player union, Tom Brady and the Patriots is going to be okay with a player being suspended on a "probably cheated"? This would set a scary precedent for players in this league.
 
LOL, after all the whining from the pats about the revis "tampering". The pats are just a bunch of crybabies that whine about every little hint of a infraction by any other team while cheating all season and then try to act like it's no big deal.

If the jets owner saying he would like to have revis back, after being directly asked the question by a reporter, is "tampering" and results in a 100K fine; then the pats deflating balls to help their quarterback every game should result in draft pick loses and a hefty fine.

I don't think I saw any Pats fans bitching about the tampering.

Jets said “I'd love Darrelle to come back.” on a contract year, and the league slapped a 100K punishment, which is absolutely nothing. Technically you're not supposed to say stuff like that, but it was such a small thing the league didn't give a shit.
 
You really think the NFL Player union, Tom Brady and the Patriots is going to be okay with a player being suspended on a "probably cheated"? This would set a scary precedent for players in this league.

Fuck suspending brady, take their next 3 first round draft picks. Kraft is a fucking hypocrite when he bitched all day about the revis "tampering" while his team has cheated on multiple seasons.
 
LOL, after all the whining from the pats about the revis "tampering". The pats are just a bunch of crybabies that whine about every little hint of a infraction by any other team while cheating all season and then try to act like it's no big deal.

If the jets owner saying he would like to have revis back, after being directly asked the question by a reporter, is "tampering" and results in a 100K fine; then the pats deflating balls to help their quarterback every game should result in draft pick loses and a hefty fine.


Haha was thinking about that. They cried and bitched about tampering with Revis cause they are all about the rules.

Meanwhile they were caught about spygate and embroiled in another controversy.

Same thing about Tom telling the Ravens read the rule book. Which book Tom?
 
I don't think I saw any Pats fans bitching about the tampering.

Jets said “I'd love Darrelle to come back.” on a contract year, and the league slapped a 100K punishment, which is absolutely nothing. Technically you're not supposed to say stuff like that, but it was such a small thing the league didn't give a shit.

I didn't say anything about pat's fans. It was the patriots organization that bitched about it.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ile-tampering-charges-over-jets-revis-comment

The New England Patriots filed tampering charges against the Jets and asked the NFL to look into Johnson's comments, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported, according to a league source. The charges were filed weeks ago.

Every team in the NFL should file tampering charges against the Patriots for actually tampering with the ball.
 
Haha was thinking about that. They cried and bitched about tampering with Revis cause they are all about the rules.

Meanwhile they were caught about spygate and embroiled in another controversy.

Same thing about Tom telling the Ravens read the rule book. Which book Tom?

Once again, who was bitching about the Revis thing? I live in Mass, nobody gave a shit about the tampering charges.

Or are you just pretending stuff up in order to fit a preconceived narrative in your head?

I didn't say anything about pat's fans. It was the patriots organization that bitched about it.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ile-tampering-charges-over-jets-revis-comment



Every team in the NFL should file tampering charges against the Patriots for actually tampering with the ball.

ok, so an organization that had a free agent superstar CB just saw that their division rival just said something that might be tampering.

Of course they are going to fuck with the Jets and try to screw them out of a pick or something. Why is this a big deal?
 
Once again, who was bitching about the Revis thing? I live in Mass, nobody gave a shit about the tampering charges.

Or are you just pretending stuff up in order to fit a preconceived narrative in your head?



ok, so an organization that had a free agent superstar CB just saw that their division rival just said something that might be tampering.

Of course they are going to fuck with the Jets and try to screw them out of a pick or something. Why is this a big deal?

The godam New England Patriots' were bitching about Revis. The actual football organization. The same one that got cheating in multiple seasons.
 
Didn't the Jets also fill tampering charges against the Patriots as well?

Yea, after Kraft said something during the owners meetings and Jets decided to fight fire with fire, or something.

Jets got a 100K fine, Pats got nothing.

Honestly this has nothing to do with anything.
 
That doesn't matter only the Pats whine like bitches, cheat and file tampering charges. Nobody else is worst then the Pats when it comes to all the BS.

Yea, it's really annoying in these threads.

"fuck the pats and all their fans, cheating cunts".

"Well fuck you too, you're just salty"

"Oh man Pats fans can't even agree with us, see, they are delusional idiots who back a cheating team!"

I mean, what other responses do people think they are going to get out of this stuff?

No point in trying if all you get is venom, so fuck it, salt gifs forever!

Love the amount of "NO FUCK YOU" and "SALT" coming from the pats fans. Never change, guys children.

See what I mean?
 
How many people are really surprised. "Aggressive bending of the rules" is in the culture there. Sounds like this may stretch back years based on the text messages.

I can't see the NFL doing anything truly drastic. MAYBE loss of 2016 first round pick and a modest fine for somebody. At most. We'll see.

It'd be more fun to watch the internet blow up if Brady got a 16 game suspension, with Pats forced to vacate all 2014 wins...
 
How many people are really surprised. "Aggressive bending of the rules" is in the culture there Every teams culture. Sounds like this may stretch back years based on the text messages.

I can't see the NFL doing anything truly drastic. MAYBE loss of 2016 first round pick and a modest fine for somebody. At most. We'll see.

It'd be more fun to watch the internet blow up if Brady got a 16 game suspension, with Pats forced to vacate all 2014 wins...

http://yourteamcheats.com/
 
Once again, who was bitching about the Revis thing? I live in Mass, nobody gave a shit about the tampering charges.

Or are you just pretending stuff up in order to fit a preconceived narrative in your head?

What? The Patriots got upset at a passing comment by Woody and right away complained about tampering. NFL investigated and fined the Jets.

But the Pats were the ones who brought it up. They want everyone else to play by the rules but have been caught twice now to be cheating.

The arrogance is what gets me. Complain about the Jets tampering, Tom tell the Ravens to learn the rule book, yet Pats are the known cheaters.

Oh well league will fine Tom or suspend him at most a game. Should be at least 4 games.
 
What? The Patriots got upset at a passing comment by Woody and right away complained about tampering. NFL investigated and fined the Jets.

But the Pats were the ones who brought it up. They want everyone else to play by the rules but have been caught twice now to be cheating.

The arrogance is what gets me. Complain about the Jets tampering, Tom tell the Ravens to learn the rule book, yet Pats are the known cheaters.

Oh well league will fine Tom or suspend him at most a game. Should be at least 4 games.

it's the Jets.

It's their biggest division rival with so much bad blood between the organizations.

it's not arrogance, it's called fucking with someone you don't like.
 
The only correct thing for the NFL to do is to strip those scumbags of the SuperBowl title, rings etc and give it to the Seahawks. I cannot believe they won't do anything more harsh.
 
The only correct thing for the NFL to do is to strip those scumbags of the SuperBowl title, rings etc and give it to the Seahawks. I cannot believe they won't do anything more harsh.
As much as I hate the Pats the Seahawks had that game and choked. Who knows if they would have also choked against the Ravens or some other AFC team. Hell someone else might have gotten in if the Pats were not cheating all season long.

Let the Pats keep the titles but put an * next to each one in the record books. Just like with anyone's home run record that was caught juicing. Just note that the Pats are cheating cunts and that they were caught cheating multiple times with the strong implication that there were other illegal activities they were also doing but were able to get away with.
 
As much as I hate the Pats the Seahawks had that game and choked. Who knows if they would have also choked against the Ravens or some other AFC team. Hell someone else might have gotten in if the Pats were not cheating all season long.

Let the Pats keep the titles but put an * next to each one in the record books. Just like with anyone's home run record that was caught juicing. Just note that the Pats are cheating cunts and that they were caught cheating multiple times with the strong implication that there were other illegal activities they were also doing but were able to get away with.

Are you a 49'ers fan by chance?
 
it's the Jets.

It's their biggest division rival with so much bad blood between the organizations.

it's not arrogance, it's called fucking with someone you don't like.

LOL. True pat's fan here.

Did they tamper with the ball in division games against the jets? Is that just fucking with someone you don't like?
 
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