May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!

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Going to go vote later and hopefully help get rid of Esther Mcvey.
 
As has probably been said, please do go vote.
If you vote for the party that best represents you via your constituency in parliament? Great.
If you vote tactically to get the party that best represents you in 10 Downing Street or vote tactically to get a specific party out or vote tactically to fit whatever else permutations may exist? Great.
If you vote for the opposition in a very safe seat with no hope in hell? Great.
Even if you hold no confidence in the government, or the whole election process, and spoil your paper, deliberately, as a form of protest, do go do that. All of this counts to give a truer picture of democracy in Britain. We're not going to say, people gave their lives for your right to do so, they did, but that it pays to be a democratically active member in society.
 
Voted.

Lab Mayor
Green Const

Wife is a bet skeptical with my Green vote! She's Labour through and through. Oh well.

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Thanks to everyone in this thread for helping me educate myself and actually take time to look into each party. Good people.
 
Yay! Voting day! I pass the polling station on the way to work, so I'll stick my nose in. If it's busy I'll leave it until the evening.

Mr. Luchador said:
Voted.

Lab Mayor
Green Const

Wife is a bet skeptical with my Green vote! She's Labour through and through. Oh well.
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Nice one! Never mind the wife, more people should vote with their conviction.
 
I like the feeling of election day. That something like 30 million of us are doing the same thing. It's got a sort of community atmosphere to it.
 
Kotetsu534 said:
say, the Tories start off better thanks to all the employed being up early
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I know you don't mean anything by this, but it sounded funny!

That's my vote for Glasgow Central cast. There were three campaigners outside, one for Labour, SNP and Lib Dems.

It's always eerie having traditional media be silent during polling hours to abide by broadcast regulations. The figurative calm before the storm.
 
Will be voting when I get home.

In a perfect world where Putin wasn't swallowing countries, I would vote Green. In a world where the LibDems would never agree to make a coallition with the Tories, I want to vote LibDem. In a country where I'm genunally worried about our NHS and watch my wife suffer as a nurse in it every day, I will be voting Labour. They don't represent all my values, but they are the only way I can see to keep the Tories from monetizing the country.
 
Why are people encouraging others to go vote? It is an illogical act in any case, but you are also supporting the consensus that the current disenfranchising state of British democracy is fine.

If you desperately need to make your voice heard, spoil your ballot
and if you are lucky enough to live in a relevant battleground seat you should actually vote
but I just cannot see what the deal behind 'everyone should vote' is given how it endorses the system.
 
Huw_Dawson said:
Why are people encouraging others to go vote? It is an illogical act in any case, but you are also supporting the consensus that the current disenfranchising state of British democracy is fine.

If you desperately need to make your voice heard, spoil your ballot
and if you are lucky enough to live in a relevant battleground seat you should actually vote
but I just cannot see what the deal behind 'everyone should vote' is given how it endorses the system.
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The people who are in power now, regardless of what country you live in, love people who spoil their ballot.
 
Just got back from voting. I was one of the first six in at opening, most of the others were smartly dressed commuters (to London) who were getting it out of the way early. I just went as my scruffian self wearing a Super Metroid x Pacific Rim shirt, but I'm glad it's over with. Voted Green for both ballots.
 
As someone who used to do vote counting, if you spoil your vote keep it simple. Don't waste your time writing a paragraph about why you are doing it, nobody who cares sees them.
 
Huw_Dawson said:
Why are people encouraging others to go vote? It is an illogical act in any case, but you are also supporting the consensus that the current disenfranchising state of British democracy is fine.

If you desperately need to make your voice heard, spoil your ballot
and if you are lucky enough to live in a relevant battleground seat you should actually vote
but I just cannot see what the deal behind 'everyone should vote' is given how it endorses the system.
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Spoiling the ballot is a form of protest via voting against the whole system. Silent protest equates to pretty much apathy.
 
Huw_Dawson said:
Why are people encouraging others to go vote? It is an illogical act in any case, but you are also supporting the consensus that the current disenfranchising state of British democracy is fine.

If you desperately need to make your voice heard, spoil your ballot
and if you are lucky enough to live in a relevant battleground seat you should actually vote
but I just cannot see what the deal behind 'everyone should vote' is given how it endorses the system.
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Spoiled ballots don't actually get recorded. Better to vote for a party like the green party if you want your voice heard. They might not get in but every 5 years that percentage will increase putting the pressure on the other parties.
 
phisheep said:
I like the feeling of election day. That something like 30 million of us are doing the same thing. It's got a sort of community atmosphere to it.
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I get that feeling when ever Nigella is on TV, knowing that across the country erections are occurring everywhere.

Oh, election??

I'm going to vote after work I think.
 
hepburn3d said:
Spoiled ballots don't actually get recorded. Better to vote for a party like the green party if you want your voice heard. They might not get in but every 5 years that percentage will increase putting the pressure on the other parties.
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British democracy - where cognitive dissonance is actively encouraged by the system itself.
 
hepburn3d said:
Spoiled ballots don't actually get recorded. Better to vote for a party like the green party if you want your voice heard. They might not get in but every 5 years that percentage will increase putting the pressure on the other parties.
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To be clear: to protest vote:
Draw a line through all the boxes. & write NONE. Google it if unclear.

Something like 1 in 3 people eligible to vote do not vote. It's better to have a high number of protest votes, than ambiguous no shows.
 
Ashes said:
To be clear: to protest vote:
Draw a line through all the boxes. & write NONE. Google it if unclear.

Something like 1 in 3 people eligible to vote do not vote. It's better to have a high number of protest votes, than ambiguous no shows.
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A no show is as much of a spoilt ballot as scribbling something on the form. A vote should be earned by the party it is being given to. If someone has not been engaged enough to vote, then that is an equally valid protest to someone who subscribes to the moral fiction of the need to vote.
 
Kotetsu534 said:
Yay, first person to vote in my polling box and one of the first (possibly the first, didn't see anyone else inside or around) at my polling station. The girl giving out the voting tickets was engrossed in conversation when I showed up before realising I needed served.

When we get electronic voting it should be possible to keep a record of how voting progressed over time - it'd be interesting to see if, say, the Tories start off better thanks to all the employed being up early, or if niche parties like the Greens keep up for a while before dying off after the early hours. I'm in Glasgow South, a Labour seat which is predicted, at roughly 90:10 odds according to the bookies, to go to the SNP. Voted for the incumbent.
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You're really misjudging who votes for whom. There have been studies done into voting patterns, and it's actually the Tories who gain a lead early from the 'unemployed' vote or as most people call them the retired. Whereas Labour votes boost in the evening after normal working people have come home from a long day working.
 
Black Republican said:
so if labour gets less seats than Con, whats gonna be their excuse to form a government?
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That them working with SNP/Plaid/LD has the backing of above half the constituencies maybe?

Here's the thing....to be a government you have to pass a Queen's Speech, to pass one of them you have to win over a majority of parliament, regardless of the size of your party. This is literally the only qualifier. Doesn't matter the size of your party, if you can hit 323 votes on a Queen's Speech and no one else can....you're in.
 
Ashes said:
To be clear: to protest vote:
Draw a line through all the boxes. & write NONE. Google it if unclear.

Something like 1 in 3 people eligible to vote do not vote. It's better to have a high number of protest votes, than ambiguous no shows.
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Even that is way too much effort. Just scribble on it. Anything outside the boxes can spoil a vote and literally nobody who sees the votes gives a fuck about how much effort you put into spoiling it.

Or, conversely, do something cool. One year someone drew a really great Batman on one I saw. It definitely helped me get through the sleep deprivation.
 
Part of me wants to try and make some progress in Bloodbourne tonight whilst waiting for the results but another, much larger part of me thinks it's a shit game. But that seems like the ideal time to play it, I dunno.

Tories Against Bloodbourne.
 
CyclopsRock said:
Part of me wants to try and make some progress in Bloodbourne tonight whilst waiting for the results but another, much larger part of me thinks it's a shit game. But that seems like the ideal time to play it, I dunno.

Tories Against Bloodbourne.
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Not surprised a Conservative voter doesn't like Bloodborne. Right from the outset you're set to helping a town community, and early on you rescue an elderly person by finding her shelter instead of means testing her winter fuel allowance and throwing her under the nearest bus.
 
hepburn3d said:
Spoiled ballots don't actually get recorded. Better to vote for a party like the green party if you want your voice heard. They might not get in but every 5 years that percentage will increase putting the pressure on the other parties.
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They certainly do get recorded and I am off to spoil my own later. I live in one of the safest seats there is so it doesn't really matter either way, but I'd rather have my apathy for FPTP recorded as a spoilt ballot paper than have it assumed I'm apathetic about politics.
 
Black Republican said:
so if labour gets less seats than Con, whats gonna be their excuse to form a government?
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Excuse?? Why do they need a excuse?

Here's how it'll go.

Con minority (say 280 seats) go to the Queens Speech and try to form a government.

Either a majority of MP's vote in favour of it and Tories get to form a government OR
a majority of MP's vote against it and they don't.

Labour minority (say 260 seats) will then give it a try.

Again, either a majority of MP's vote in favour of it and Labour get to form a government OR
a majority of MP's vote against it and they don't.

New general election time.


It's pretty simple
 
Dougald said:
They certainly do get recorded and I am off to spoil my own later. I live in one of the safest seats there is so it doesn't really matter either way, but I'd rather have my apathy for FPTP recorded as a spoilt ballot paper than have it assumed I'm apathetic about politics.
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If it was so close that the percentage of national votes became an important factor, is there any particular way you'd wish your vote to be recorded rather than ignored?
That question also goes to anyone else who is thinking of note voting or spoiling their ballot in a safe seat.
 
travisbickle said:
Not surprised a Conservative voter doesn't like Bloodborne. Right from the outset you're set to helping a town community, and early on you rescue an elderly person by finding her shelter instead of means testing her winter fuel allowance and throwing her under the nearest bus.
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:lol

Just voted. I live in a safe Labour seat so I've gone with the Green Party in the hopes it'll give Labour a kick up the arse.
 
I have a question. Is there any way that the conservatives can stay in government if them + UKIP + LD don't get enough votes for a majority? Because looks at polls and seat predictions it doesn't seem like they'll have enough.
 
AngryMoth said:
I have a question. Is there any way that the conservatives can stay in government if them + UKIP + LD don't get enough votes for a majority? Because looks at polls and seat predictions it doesn't seem like they'll have enough.
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They will probably also get tacit support from the DUP. If that bloc doesn't have 323 votes, then they still might be able to cling on if, for example, Lady Hermon or George Galloway decide to become abstentionist, and then the Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition would probably continue as a minority coalition. Fairly unlikely, though.
 
AngryMoth said:
I have a question. Is there any way that the conservatives can stay in government if them + UKIP + LD don't get enough votes for a majority? Because looks at polls and seat predictions it doesn't seem like they'll have enough.
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Labour could abstain from the Queens Speech
 
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