If Nvidia can't compete on performance, they will on price. Their chips are quite smaller for them to give up (sob) those hefty profit margins at the expense of not losing market share.
AMD Radeon Fury X Series | HBM, Small Form Factor And Water Cooling | June 16th
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yes yes that's cool.
it just seemed like people were celebrating the death of dvi while praising hdmi as if hdmi is worth anything at all.
I'm just thankful there's just 1 slot for hdmi and not more.
Coulomb_Barrier
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HBM gonna make the cards smaller. Looks awesome.
Collateral22
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If it isn't too much more than a 980 here (6-700 euro) then I might opt for it instead. Is there any single card that can run games at say 4k/60fps or would I be looking at SLI for that?
Frankfurter
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Isn't GM200 sth. like 600mm²? I doubt Fiji will be bigger than that...
SquiddyCracker
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So they'll probably release stepped-down versions of this at lower prices, right?
I'd probably bite then.
I'd probably bite then.
I was talking in context of the GM204, Nvidia could drop 980 to $299 and stem the loss of market share if Fiji is that good. Besides a 500mm² Fiji + interposer I think would still be more expensive than the GM200.
Unlikely I think. Nvidia's brand loyalty is strong enough they can still sell with 40% or more price/perf disadvantage from AMD.
Nvidia won't bank on loyalty if they see AMD sales picking up, its just not in their DNA to coast.
diggmcbadass
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Why are people acting like Displayport connectors aren't compatible with VGA, DVI and HDMI adapters? I would be surprised if there weren't several included in the box even.
thehillissilent
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I might actually go back to AMD if the price is right. However, I'm going to wait for official benchmarks.
Dreathlock
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The water is cooled by fans....
Buggy Loop
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o_o
I welcome our new HBM overlords. Thank god for some advancements, finally!!
WarMacheen
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2 970's going up for sale soon lol....and a 780
Sure, but they'd be bigger fans which would spin more slowly. I'm assuming this is like CPU all-in-one water coolers with external radiators where you can do push/pull fans.
justsomeguy
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Yeah, I'm really interested to see this. Fan noise is the biggest turn--off for me in PC gaming. I even sacrificed game performance to run with a passively cooled card until The Witcher 2 launched and I bit the bullet on an MSI Twin Frozr 270.
That said, my next PC in my new gaming den will live in a (big, ventilated) cupboard and be connected to a Dolby Atmos sound system, so it won't be a big deal
Corpsepyre
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What are the chances the lower-end 300 series cards pack HBM as well? Or is it strictly a 390x thing? Will be disappointed if this is the case.
ashecitism
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Rumors so far said it's only for the 390 and 390X.
Not rumors anymore, it's been confirmed here -- http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/desktop/oem#
Coulomb_Barrier
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Don't think so.
8Gb HBM and this card is supposed to be designed as the go-to for VR gaming.
CrimsonEclipse
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First I was excited for the 980ti but I think this has me more now. If this is as good as it sounds and they are affordable - I will certainly jump back into PC gaming as my main platform.
Been debating whether or not to.
Been debating whether or not to.
Yes, but water is many times more effective at carrying heat than air. Add to this the fact that a radiator can provide more surface area (through its fins), than a cooler attached to the GPU board (especially if this card is as small as it seems in these leaks). All this means fans on a radiator can run at very low RPM and still provide excellent cooling performance.
ashecitism
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I thought the 380 would be a rebranded 290/290X? Those specs make it sound weaker?
edit: oh these are OEM. So there might be some changes for the retail products which would include the 290/X.
I'm not sure they're the morons when DisplayPort is adaptable to DVI (and there may even be one included with the product).
Yeah, OEM specs, so at least the clock speeds will be higher, those 380 specs match the 285 perfectly, so it's probably a 285 rebrand with some slight improvements, still strange though, it would make more sense for it to just be a 290 rebrand.
You're right. Your fear is indeed irrational, especially as it is aio.
Sir Abacus
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So what's your opinion about the pressure and weight of a heatsink/fan combo cracking the die?
qa_engineer
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pretty sure there is a converter out there somewhere.
PS I am so buying this if the price is right.
Looks great. Dudes who built it put in a lot of pride and love (and money) in it, and it shows.
It won't sell for less that $600. I'm hoping for a manufacturing ramp up before Vive comes out and beat nVidia in holiday sales. AMD needs the mindshare and the reputation.
The 390X is about to cast down the Titans!
Looks like a fly guitar pedal.
I dislike watercooling these days because of the complexity of installation/deinstallation and pump vibrations/noise.
(Also obligatory hipster nerd remark: I had a custom watercooling loop for CPU, GPU and chipset before there was such a thing as AiO watercooling
)EmptySpace
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yo that looks small. or am i overestimating how small it actually is? but hey, nvidia ceo/workout guru also held a small pascal gpu in one of the conferences. so maybe it is that small.
then again i guess it will still generate a lot of heat given how it comes with its own watercooler.
just reminded me. xbox is the next watercooler.
HarryDemeanor
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That's small. Can't imagine the amount of heat that thing is going to output with a water cooling unit attached.
Excellent packaging, so small, and yet it will be in the range of TitanX power.
14nm can't come soon enough!