veggiesaurus
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That looks like an incredible design. Am I right in saying that the radiator goes on the back of the case (normally near the CPU)?
AMD Radeon Fury X Series | HBM, Small Form Factor And Water Cooling | June 16th
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Iorv3th
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Im in the same boat as you, looking to upgrade from the 6950.
Any chance that there will be models with DVI output? My second monitor doesn't have display port/hdmi.
On most rigs that would be standard, but some cases will allow for more creative configs.
Really liking the AiO design.
Irobot82
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Those are for OEM's not retail. I highly doubt the 380 would be a rebranded 285 and not a rebranded 290.
Please let DVI die already. DP is the only way to go. And for all those curious. Monoprice has dirt cheap converters for all your cable needs.
What? No move everything to DP. DVI has a resolution limit. DP can do like 8k at 60FPS.
Nooo, leave DVI alone. Just kill off HDMI instead.
EmptySpace
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wait, so this is still 28nm instead of 14? hmmm...
DVI adapters are cheap, most likely there will be one [or more] of them in the box.
Yeah, this year AMD is creating their last and most optimized 28nm arhitecture that will be fueled by HBM1, and next year both AMD and Nvidia will create 14nm GPUs with HBM2.
I second this question, where does the water cooler go? This may actually be harder to fit in my hadron air than the 290x that's already in there.
That separate cooler is fixed somewhere on your PC case in a standard 12x12 cooler slot.
You really want AMD to die don't you? The only problem with DP is that it has short range with its wires.
Of course I don't want AMD to die - I just like having screws either side of my connector, haha.
Wait on the case or inside the case? I don't really see how it would fit on the outside or inside of a hadron air. Perhaps that's why there's a hadron hydro.
I feel the same way. It wouldn't make sense to just use Tonga as the 380X because it would leave such a huge performance gap between that and the 390X. Then again, a lot of rumors suggest otherwise. Also this will be more of a stopgap generation since a new node is basically around the corner. It'd be a waste of money to design completely new chips for all the tiers. I honestly have no idea anymore.
My guess would be that the 380x is rebadged 290x while 380 no x will be Tonga.
You just stick it where you normally put a 12" case Fan.
Ah I see, thank you! So there is no reason for hadron hydro to exist?
SolidSnakeUS
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DP and DVI both have 5 meter ranges. Even normal USB 2.0 is 5 meters. Normal USB 3.0 is 2 to 3 meters. Do most people need 20 meter HDMI cables?
EmptySpace
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that is a bit of a downer. then again we are skipping 22nm and 20nm and going down to 14nm. that could be big in a span of a year and it isn't like previous shrinks. now i am considering of just waiting for pascal. hmmmm....14nm either be just last as long or we will get 10nm sooner. i don't even know.
Irobot82
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Ahh, well yes there is. It appears the Hadron Hydro is built for custom water cooling setups. That case is for the user (you) to build custom water loops). The image I sent you and what the AMD GPU will use are all AIO's Lookup the AMD 295X2 or any custom AIO like CoolerMaster's Seidon 120M. You can even mod your own GPU using something like NZXT's G10 to add your own AIO water cooler to your GPU.
No you'll need SLI for 60fps at 4k, assuming it is about as fast as a Titan X
If you are willing to turn down AA and some other settings a bit you do not need sli. Still will look better than 1080p or 1440p maxed settings by a mile.
That's with AA off. Personal experience.
Depends what other settings you are tweaking.
The point is you do not need sli titan xs for a viable 4k set up.
No, but ironically HDMI is backwards compatible with single link DVI-D.
Irobot82
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DVI-D is just DVI-Digital, not dual link.
You need like $100 active dongles, and even then they still act wonky.
This is correct, there is no 120MM fan on the Hardon Air.
Think of the cooler as the same thing as the Corsair H60 or Seidon 120. It's an AIO cooler, except the heatsink is mounted to the GPU rather than the CPU.
Irobot82
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Ooooooh. Another great reason DVI needs to burn in a horrible death.
Cow Mengde
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Well, my 7850 is getting old and noisy.
DVI was a fantastic, forward-looking standard. It was ratified in 1999 and still has the ability to drive higher bandwidth than some shitty consumer standards set in 2013. With all the DVI-only 2560x1440 monitors out there (I'm using one right now!) I feel like it's too soon to get rid of it.
Irobot82
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At some point you got to cut it off. We need to force the standards forward otherwise it'll never go away. It's 16 years old and it can't go above 1440p, with the push to 4k, it's time to let it go out to pasture.
Well now I'm torn.
I can only fit an 11" card in my case, and the EVGA 980 I just purchased fits nicely (10.5") but the "speculation" around the performance has me wondering if I should return my 980's and wait for these to show their faces.
I can still return for a full refund...
How likely are these scenarios?
1) AMD cards come out and are 11" or shorter and smoke my 980's for the same price.
2) Nvidia drops the 980 price tag and I can re-buy them in 4 weeks?
I can only fit an 11" card in my case, and the EVGA 980 I just purchased fits nicely (10.5") but the "speculation" around the performance has me wondering if I should return my 980's and wait for these to show their faces.
I can still return for a full refund...
How likely are these scenarios?
1) AMD cards come out and are 11" or shorter and smoke my 980's for the same price.
2) Nvidia drops the 980 price tag and I can re-buy them in 4 weeks?
Krauser Kat
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did everyone forget these exist
did everyone forget these exist
People need the opposite one. Male HDMI/DP port, female DVI port.
Some folks with projector's and elaborate home cinema set-up's do, yes.
Both are possible, how long have you got left to return them? It's defintely worth considering holding off, on the eve of a new card, depends on how desperate you are on playing new games, like The Witcher 3.
I have until May 15th.
The reason I'm excited about this card is that for the first time we might have mass produced watercooled reference cards. That means no more paying for a heatsink I don't use then shelling out an extra £80 for a full cover block
The reason I'm excited about this card is that that for the first time we might have mass produced watercooled reference cards. That means no more paying for a heatsink I don't use then shelling out an extra £80 for a full cover block
Might still have to spend some extra cash if the built in pump is noisy, and you can bet your bollocks to a barn dance that the fans will need to be replaced (if it comes with fans in the first place, that is).
Hmmmm, not long, it's a bugger, cause you don't want to feel like you've ripped yourself off, with not waiting, but on the other hand, you could end up waiting a month or so for not much gain, but you can pretty much guarantee Nvidia will knock out the 980ti or whatever it's called as a response to the 390X, if I were you I'd send back, you've got nothing to lose, but all to gain, it's not like your spending an insignificant amount of money.
Yeah, I think this is what I'm going to end up doing. Good thing I kept my 770 in the box and didn't sell it.
I'm really having a hard time with the idea of letting go of GTAV @ ultra and batman and the witcher T-T
Ha well it could be worse, you could be down to, onboard graphics! At the end of the day, you'll either get an amazing new card, or an amazing deal on your existing cards! You'll be happy either way!
That doesn't work for 120/144Hz and 1440p panels.did everyone forget these exist