I miss understood the throwing in the center with no arc, but then again, that's how CounterStrike grenades work, so I dunno, I have no problem with it. And you're complaining about not using the camera reset button it seems like. That's on you. And as somoene pointed out already in this thread, the reticle changes when it's in range.
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I miss understood the throwing in the center with no arc, but then again, that's how CounterStrike grenades work, so I dunno, I have no problem with it. And you're complaining about not using the camera reset button it seems like. That's on you. And as somoene pointed out already in this thread, the reticle changes when it's in range.
Something I notice a lot of people didn't do in the matches I was in was that no one held the fire button when super jumping. I would always reposition my camera to face the enemy and hold the fire button down and I'd kill or keep the enemy at bay. You have a small window to shoot when falling down so holding the fire button down helps.
Yep, coming in August.
AgentOtaku
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Bless Nintendo for making a freaking shooter who's primary objective IS NOT to shoot the other players (^_____^)
Nintendo just changed the damn game, I tell ya!
Also,
Gonna really heartbroken if I can't secure one of the Amazon 3-packs whenever preorders go up
AgentOtaku
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me neither
Gyro is pleasant and I appreciate it being there, but completely unnecessary for me. Switched to analog and went up to "0" sensitivity (game defaults to "-1" I believe) and was golden.
As I said before, I'm honestly surprised that the analog aiming isn't complete doo-doo considering aiming on many Wii U games and the large deadzones they had.
HawthorneKitty
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Don't be full of yourself.Whoever changed the title is just copying me, I already made that joke
DryvBy
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I may have missed the reticle change. There was so much paint flying all over the place for me to pay attention. When I started having a good K/D was when I learned to just zip around as squidman, pop up close range and attack, and squid away when needed. I just didn't know everything was going to be close range.
Oh well, I'm glad so many people had fun. Maybe when friends modes are patched in, I'll check this out again. I was just really disappointed with it. But to each their own! I hated There Will Be Blood the first time I saw it. Now I own it and watch it once a year.
Mat-triX
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Wait, what Wii U games had gyro aiming with deadzones? If you said Wii games, ya of course, cause of IR pointer. Wind Waker HD has the cursor locked in the center of the screen; no deadzone.
Was only joking
Astral/H3X
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The reticle has two modes, because the gun is useful in two situations:
When no one is near you, or in your reticle, and all you are going to hit is the ground (Which is something you SHOULD be hitting), the reticle is a wide open box, indicating the spread of your gun. Not where it will land, but how it's shooting out to begin with. It doesn't account for distance or arc, because that doesn't matter -- you're shooting the ground, you're going to see where it's landing.
When you get close enough to someone to actually hit them, it changes to an X, indicating that you're going to hit them. You're not really supposed to be lobbing your shots in an arc to hit people -- it might squeeze a bit more distance, but it's not particularly effective -- you're supposed to get closer.
This close to putting you on ignore lol. At least you came to your senses on it. I hope you do give this game another chance, it's looking to be one for the ages, especially the movement options.
Whoever changed the title is just copying me, I already made that joke
As always, in the internet, someone beat you by hours, lol.
Gotdatmoney
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Last test round felt so good. I turned off the gyro and played so much better (due to understanding the game better). I like gyro but I would hope you can use it in addition to having control of the Y axis on the stick. Game is fun though I really hope they roll out the new maps soon. 5 maps with 2 on 4 hour rotation could get really tiring. Would prefer a MK8 system of voting and rotation in mixture with random pick.
Yup, besides probably the grenade launcher type splattershot, the arc of paint does not do any effective damage and the effective range is only when the reticule turns into an X. The arc is mainly only there for painting. At least when using the Charger, it looked like the arc of paint did no damage ever.
jediyoshi
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I can not fathom the effort you put into this post without looking up what you're actually talking about. Would it surprise you to find out there's a mode where you explicitly play with and are on a team with friends? Literally information from that same Direct, from that same segment.
pinkurocket
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This is my life now.
I love splatting them trees.
I love splatting them trees.
A few times iirc, yeah. I was also consistently getting 11+ kills, though. Rarely lost.
Yep! When you bump into a team mate with a shield you also get the shield.
SUPERJEM94
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This is pretty good. I tried using the charger, but I just couldn't. I just suck with sniper rifles in any shooter game(besides Destiny for some reason). So far the Splattershot seem to be my prefer weapon, and I loved using the Roller as well.
RichardKSJ
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I love watching the ink just ooze off of the trees.
Willy Wanka
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Took me a while to get used to the gameplay (I was using the Gyro control setup) but I enjoyed it and had very few connection issues. The lack of voice chat is definitely going to affect my overall enjoyment of the game but I'm convinced enough to buy day one now.
AgentOtaku
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Kid Icarus Uprising' story of life.
Octavianus
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Yeah, I'm usually in the 1300's.
I'm surprised I'm doing well in this game, I'm usually complete shit when it comes to shooters :x
I even said in my post its coming 3 months on.
SoraanTribal
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So are you really not going to be able to go online with a buddy while 2 player local MP? Like you can in Mario Kart and Smash Bros? I'm just not sure how any of the modes in the game will work with 1v1 local multiplayer if you can't go online.
Linkstrikesback
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The gamepad is far too large and heavy to ever comfortably allow me to use gyro controls. Wiimote pointing or using a wii motion plus as motion control aiming, sure, I can maybe get behind that. But the gamepad? Never.
The demo was alright. I still don't feel convinced to buy it though. It still feels like a fairly detailed minigame in a compilation game like Nintendo land or similar rather than something I would pay £20+ for.
If you aim over obstacles or above cliffs, it will coat the other side pretty well.
Same here. I stuck with splattershot, splattershot jr., and the roller. Roller was especially fun for me because I could sneak around and flank while they're trying to attack my buddies. The last few games today I really improved my roller game. Didn't matter if the team won or lost, I had an amazing time just playing around and finding new techniques.
Omega Kirby
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Gyro felt great. Was responsive and fluid, I can't imagine playing with it off.
Glad to see that there were loss rollers this time round,people finally realising they're not op. And I just love swimming around as a squid.
Glad to see that there were loss rollers this time round,people finally realising they're not op. And I just love swimming around as a squid.
RoyaleDuke
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Played 10-15 rounds and I must absolutely applaud the game development team for making something that isn't grim dark military shooter or some variant thereof.
In fact, I love that the whole point of the match is actually paint the world to win instead of shoot the other player to win. It's fantastic.
In fact, I love that the whole point of the match is actually paint the world to win instead of shoot the other player to win. It's fantastic.
This is why it pays to get adjusted to the gyro controls. This isn't possible I feel or extremely hard with it turned off. I've watched several videos of people turning off motion controls and it's painful to watch them play the game because how how they're controlling the camera or not controlling really. The motion controls make looking up and down, once used to them, someone you don't really have to think about. It's just something you do allowing you to focus more on strafing, moving in and out of the ink, putting down ink, looking at the map, etc.
I get now why Nintendo put it on by default and had you do the tutorial first. To make you get used to them right away because there is a learning curve. I think people can unless you go into the game expecting to hate the gyro aiming and not willing to give a shot which is the attitude I noticed from some videos or stream archives.
Now if you still don't like them while giving them a shot that's okay. I think one should at least try though. I think the single player might very well help more on this front if given a chance.
pinkurocket
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Hmmm yes it's glorious. They really pulled of the gooeyness so well, as well as the way it reflects light and the sound effects. So good.
Sounds like you're doing gyro controls wrong.
You use the right stick for sweeping camera movements, you use the gyro for very precise aiming.
The gamepad should be in your lap and you gently tilt it around.
Meant to post earlier after the noon testfire session but forgot.
So last night and for maybe 20 minutes today I was really kind of annoyed that they had no onscreen indication of how much ink you had left. Then I randomly look at my character and see the tank on its back and think "Heh, that is pretty cool. I wish they had pointed it out so my dumb ass would have noticed it sooner". I also gave the Gyro controls a try after a bunch of GAFers talked about how they loved them. I just can't get the hang of them, between it only being up and down and the way I hold a controller (I hold it really low) I just found myself constantly staring at the ground by accident and then pulling back on the joystick before remembering. Maybe I'll try it more once the game launches but with such a small timeframe to play I wanted to go with what worked for me.
All in all, I really enjoyed the game. People can be really good at countering the roller but I had a blast sneaking around behind people or hiding in my paint as a squid and popping out. My favorite was charging at another roller coming directly at me, pulling up and tapping ZR to throw paint at them. Great fun. If you saw a roller named Kyle it might have been me!
I'll likely pick this up at launch but that depends how absorbed I am in the Witcher 3. We shall see.
So last night and for maybe 20 minutes today I was really kind of annoyed that they had no onscreen indication of how much ink you had left. Then I randomly look at my character and see the tank on its back and think "Heh, that is pretty cool. I wish they had pointed it out so my dumb ass would have noticed it sooner". I also gave the Gyro controls a try after a bunch of GAFers talked about how they loved them. I just can't get the hang of them, between it only being up and down and the way I hold a controller (I hold it really low) I just found myself constantly staring at the ground by accident and then pulling back on the joystick before remembering. Maybe I'll try it more once the game launches but with such a small timeframe to play I wanted to go with what worked for me.
All in all, I really enjoyed the game. People can be really good at countering the roller but I had a blast sneaking around behind people or hiding in my paint as a squid and popping out. My favorite was charging at another roller coming directly at me, pulling up and tapping ZR to throw paint at them. Great fun. If you saw a roller named Kyle it might have been me!
I'll likely pick this up at launch but that depends how absorbed I am in the Witcher 3. We shall see.
Just from downloading it, if I recall correctly.
I found default sensitivity for the controls too twitchy for me personally so I lowered the sensitivity to -1.5 and it felt great then. I had better control of the camera and my aim which improved my game with splattershot and splattershot jr.
Dr. Buni
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Really? Fuck me for buying it before playing the demo then.
Nice, in in for a digital copy then. I want even interested in this game but the "one-two"-combo of the direct and the demo got me!
the discount isn't even showing up for me so i dunno
I gotta say that while I quite like the gamepad controls I'd love for their to be wiimote support with your gamepad still functioning as a map, similar to Pikmin 3.
I guess that might make for an unfair advantage depending on where you choose to place the gamepad since you could possibly be able to keep paying attention to the map without having to look away? I just really love wiimote controls for shooters though. :s
I guess that might make for an unfair advantage depending on where you choose to place the gamepad since you could possibly be able to keep paying attention to the map without having to look away? I just really love wiimote controls for shooters though. :s
Oh, Christ. "Real" controls?
One of my favorite things about this game so far is how bespoke the control scheme is. It feels like the team started with a blank slate and created a unique control setup that works for this game, not something based on shooter lineage or longstanding tropes.
I love the Wii Remote IR setup for shooters as much as (or more than) the next guy, but the GamePad works beautifully for this game. Being able to perform subtle and accurate aiming based on a minute tilt -- whilst doing just about anything else, which was a limitation of the Wii Remote due to its relative lack of buttons -- is extremely practical and fluid. Additionally, I don't want to imagine the game without a real-time updated ink map and touch-to-fast-travel option -- those are both essential to the gameplay.
Anyway, I know it's half-pointless to engage the trolling, but I more wanted to express how much I love this game's controls.
JohnTinker
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The discount applies for the EU only, IIRC
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