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I wasn't all that interested in the game, but a bunch of friends has convinced me to pick it up. I don't think they know about the lack of pre made team matchmaking.
IGN: Splatoon's lack of voice chat is "cheap and lazy"
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I wasn't all that interested in the game, but a bunch of friends has convinced me to pick it up. I don't think they know about the lack of pre made team matchmaking.
tkscz
Member
Honestly, I could care less for voice chat as even on PC, I don't really use it. I understand the want for the option or, at the very least, queues to let your team know when they are needed and where (there were moments when I found huge areas on our side covered in the enemies paint and my teammates were just ignoring the area).
I still have a blast without it and I loss nothing from the game not having it, it would make things easier though.
I still have a blast without it and I loss nothing from the game not having it, it would make things easier though.
No clue. I almost have to wonder if the WiiU simply doesn't have the OS level support for robust party chat or chat features in general. The games that do have it, have it coded into them directly and it isn't even very good (MH3U, BLOPS2U, Smash, Kart) compared to what I can get while playing Halo.
You can technically skirt the issue if you have eight friends, since then it will just randomize the whole thing. But they've been pretty upfront on the lack of the matchmaking feature at launch, so make the call accordingly.
Admittedly, they haven't said how the ranked matches actually work and/if they randomize. Shuffle's only been shown for Turf War.
EatinOlives
Member
At this day and age it's simply poor software if it asks you to use Skype/Facetime for VOIP when pretty much any online service that connects people does it on its own.
"I don't give a rat's ass" isn't a great argument either, and I'm pretty sure you know that.
It being a cooperative game and MH, everyone on there I ever talked to was super nice.
Solid Samus
Banned
IGN reviewer porbably didn't know about the pingping or was to stupid to look at his minimap.
0/10
Try harder.
Take a look at 4chan or HOTS thread here and you will see that we met a lot of toxic players.
I specialy met some in MOBAS. Limiting the intereaction between randoms reduce greatly the toxic behaviors.
Wait. Smash has a chat feature? What. Why didn't I know this? D:
I feel dumb now.
krypt0nian
Banned
For the 6000th time, then YOU mute YOURS. This isn't a difficult concept.
If you don't like loud radios, do you advocate for the removal of ALL loud radios or just turn yours down?
Great arguments are pointless for people who already have their mind made up. Science will back me up on that as well. I'm just being straightforward about my emotions towards the matter.
You are just mad cause I used the word toxic right. 
U know that there will always be people that gonna exploit stuff whenever, creating toxic gameplay. Then just add the function to speak and you create a full team of toxic players, they may invent some special co-op toxic as well making it even worse. Even normal players can create it as well, as communication can straight up be an advantage, others that don't use it to avoid the other dangers of voice chat can be severely hampered when facing those who do.
I know calling working together 'toxic' might be reaching it, but killing voice chat can be a very effective way to level the playing field. Something that a lot of design decisions in this game seem to go for as well.
Seth Enosh
Member
What's wrong with blops2 chat? I tried it a few times and it seemed to work fine, besides that the only people talking are 9 year olds chatting about non game related things.
WiiU definitely doesn't have OS level party chat support, it seems like they just didn't consider it when designing the system. It never notifies you on the screen about anything while playing a game either (I wonder if they could even patch this in now without any existing games expecting any sort of system UI overlay during play), just flashes the home button on the game pad when you get a system PM or something.
Do you feel like the people who are muting because of others are the people that you want muting at all?
Yes, it does, but its not worth using. The reason for not having it mid-match was stated as a latency/bandwidth concern for smoothness of play, IIRC. So either they say that as PR fluff or it actually is their reason for avoiding it.
Its laggy and the quality is shit.
They could definitely patch in an on-screen overlay notification from the base OS, just as the OS can always kick in and override the game from the Home button. Its not like the system's OS shuts down the moment you boot a game.
I think its more that they just don't "believe" in notifications that disrupt the screen/gameplay.
WiiRevolution1
Member
Dunno why, but even then I found voice chat annoying in PS3 games lol.
Sure. As long as I can completely disable that too like in Pokemon X&Y since I dislike chatting. Nintendo has done pretty good with that lately. The thing is Nintendo's teams and developers are all different so some people might be fine with voice chat with friends (Pokemon had that since Diamond and Pearl and of course Smash WiiU and MK8 has it) while others like the Splatoon Team I guess don't like voice chat with friends for some reason. Maybe it'll be in a patch for those who want it. One thing I know for sure is that voice chat will never happen with randoms. I was surprised they did it with friends with MK8 and Smash since you can get friends so easily on Miiverse.
And this whole different teams reminded me that Splatoon has no MKTV YouTube upload like feature. :/
hurricanes
Member
Omega Kirby
Member
Yeah, you can use the Wii U's built in mic for it too
Well Colour me surprised
The way they explained it in the direct made it seem to me like you can only join one friend at a time, like it just showed them choosing "Join Game" on the list of friends. I guess you could do it by having multiple friends join the same person's game?
There's a reason I added "connection-wise" so you wouldn't FUCKING REGURGITATE WHAT YOU'VE SAID 6000 TIMES. (I can caps too)
Whelp, my mistake then. Haven't played in awhile and mainly only ever saw pings.
krypt0nian
Banned
I don't feel any way. This is a ludicrous policy.
You mute it if it's a problem in your life. Others will use it.
Adding connection-wise changes zero.
If they cannot find a want to use the bandwidth as other have in countless other online games, then they should ask for help.
You can just use Skype, or Hangout, or Whatsapp
I would totally advocate for the removal of other people's loud radios.
krypt0nian
Banned
Why do you care ? You didn't even tried the game. I didn't saw you once in the live demo thread.
Lot of people like you whoo is bashing this... Are you bashing this like others without even played the game and see if it is REALLY a must have among strangers ?!
I dislike people who judge without even trying first. At least the guy at IGN seems ti have tried the demo.
Is it a must have among strngers ?
NO, there're pingings in the game and if you're not brain afk or Tunnel vision you should be able to understand what to do.
Seriously, how the hell do you think we're playing in MOBAS like HOTS ? Pinging is totally enough even in ranked.
Is it must have among friends ?
No because I played Fantasy Life on 3DS with a Gafer, without a question we used Skype just for chatting.
But could it be nice with close friends ? Maybe.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
The excuses to try to defend Nintendo's actions are hilarious. Especially the "Good... The game is better now" responses. It's called mute. No one ever responds to posts saying to mute the VC because there is no response.
Maybe walkie-talkies if you're feeling nostalgic.
No. That's not a good solution.
I have used Skype with MK8 and its serviceable but not good.
Solid Samus
Banned
Whatever precludes Nintendo from criticism yall
Its the best way to go for reasons I'm coming up with right now
Newtype-001
Member
It wouldnt even be that hard to implement really. The game can set VC to mute by default and so just unmute players you want to hear or only allow people on your friends list to be able to communicate.
i find it more funny that some people are advocating no voice chat because lil timmy on the mic in 2009 said "you suck" or the "F" word and you got offended for 3 seconds before you muted him.
smh.
Why would you guys want less options? Like i haven't used voice chat since 2012 but not including it in derives some player experience which has been standard for several years in online games and games with online features.
I hope they patch it in but nintendo gonna nintendo.
i find it more funny that some people are advocating no voice chat because lil timmy on the mic in 2009 said "you suck" or the "F" word and you got offended for 3 seconds before you muted him.
smh.
Why would you guys want less options? Like i haven't used voice chat since 2012 but not including it in derives some player experience which has been standard for several years in online games and games with online features.
I hope they patch it in but nintendo gonna nintendo.
Everything you've said in this thread has been veiled in ignorance and stupidity, this takes the cake though.
The most fun I've ever had with a multiplayer game was Rainbow Six Vegas, and I played it competitively with other people, joined clans, played other clans, was in a clan that made it into the top 10 on the now barren and stupidly titled site called Gamebattles.
Point is, if you tried to play that game competitively without a mic, you can't and would never be able to. Competition in that game was intense, fun, frantic. If someone dares to actually get really good at Splatoon, they have no reason to keep playing once they reach the fullest height of the skill ceiling due to fucked matchmaking and having to recruit or get to know people outside of the game itself.
Where do they take those skills? Nowhere. That doesn't lend itself to replayability or drive to better yourself at the game.
You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and your viewpoint is laughable.
krypt0nian
Banned
HOLY SHIT. Mindblown.
Which game didn't I try? Care to show your work?
It's a BASIC option in modern consoles. My VITA has it standard. JESUS. My VITA...
M1ch04c4n0
Banned
Oh, maybe they have a good poin...
"It's 2015!!!!"
Oh, it's IGN, carry on. Nothing to see here.
"It's 2015!!!!"
Oh, it's IGN, carry on. Nothing to see here.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Cheap and lazy???
That's likely very misinformed.
Should it be included???
I wanted it pretty badly with this game(the lack of voicechat is one issue I do get pissed at Nintendo about) but it's probably the higher ups' decision in not wanting any controversy surrounding Nintendo's family-friendly rep.
That's likely very misinformed.
Should it be included???
I wanted it pretty badly with this game(the lack of voicechat is one issue I do get pissed at Nintendo about) but it's probably the higher ups' decision in not wanting any controversy surrounding Nintendo's family-friendly rep.
Someone's mad.
And your argument is about a game that requires constant communication and slow paced gameplay (to an extent). But hey, my opinion's dumb. Guess I will just go finish up binding my thesis.
I'll just make this my last post about this topic: yes, voice chat should be an option in the game even though I personally would likely not use it. Hopefully they can do something about this with an update or something somehow.
Glad I haven't used it then lolYes, it does, but its not worth using. The reason for not having it mid-match was stated as a latency/bandwidth concern for smoothness of play, IIRC. So either they say that as PR fluff or it actually is their reason for avoiding it.
Its laggy and the quality is shit.
They could definitely patch in an on-screen overlay notification from the base OS, just as the OS can always kick in and override the game from the Home button. Its not like the system's OS shuts down the moment you boot a game.
I think its more that they just don't "believe" in notifications that disrupt the screen/gameplay.
Seth Enosh
Member
People already responded ITT pointing out that if voice chatting gives an in-game advantage then that puts pressure on those who don't like voice chat to turn it on and talk to other people on their team.
The Splatoon developer already said in an interview that they are pitching this game to those who are scared of online communications because of bad experiences in the past. There are many other games including 2 CoD games on Wii u if you can only play games with in game chat.
krypt0nian
Banned
Rightfully so. It's a standard feature in modern consoles and PC (and bloody handhelds)