nope. CPU, 970, Ram, MB and PS
Witcher 3 downgrade arguments in here and nowhere else
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nope. CPU, 970, Ram, MB and PS
XxRampage07xX
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lol
It's a Witcher 3 thread. It's an inevitability.
Solaire of Astora
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Lol @ you for confusing euros and pounds. Normally it wouldn't be such a big deal, but the aggressive way you worded that made the mistake that little bit funnier.
And yeah, you can get a PC that will outperform the consoles for not a lot of money these days, but you're really reaching by throwing spare parts into the equation in order to lower that arbitrary figure. Normally the "you can get a better PC for $x" is used to convince us "console peasants" that we should get a PC instead. I've got news for you. We don't all have spare PC parts kicking about.
Pound or dollar makes a big difference in price. Those aren't just a few cents of difference, it's a lot. In uour example about 150 dollar.
I think it's possible to get a cheap powerful pc together, but not that cheap, especially for a full setup. Plus, it's very generous to assume that everyone got spare parts around. Some people only used Laptops or tablets before.
Gormenghast
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Yes. Then the hard drive will fail, the power suppy will break, the mouse will be shit, etc...
(and you left out memory, that is still at the very least $50, if not twice as much)
The fact you have spare parts doesn't mean you didn't buy them at some point. You can't "hide" money spent like that. I'm simply stating that you can't have a working PC if you have a budget of $800 and want a 970 with an i5.
Especially if you want to throw in parts that won't break after a year, an SSD and all the minimum level things one usually expects.
Just missing some Bloodborne comparisons and its an official Witcher thread.
More, but probably not all in one go.
Dictator93
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It needs actually a DC comparison now. BUt then again, the whicher isn't a corridor RPG.
OmegaDL50
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If people are so inclined to include the price of a monitor of a computer in fucking TWENTY FIFTEEN!, then I'd say it's a fair point to bring up the issue with TV cost associated with a console.
Since 2007 therabouts most PCs had HDMI built be it via the motherboard or GPU, A display is a display regardless if you plug your game console / PC tower into a Monitor / HDTV.
alife
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Refer to my latest post. Regardless of my mistake due to sitting too far away from the screen, fact still stands, I just put together a PC @ $302.94.
Well to be fair, he said outperform a ps4, which is what a 750ti and i3 will do. He didnt say shit all over a ps4 which is what your i5 plus 970 do.
You asked how that guy spent $800 on all that and I offered an explanation (which he confirmed to be the case). I never said you could get all of that for $800.
XxRampage07xX
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Damn this thread might be a good place for me to ask for advice for building a PC
googoomuck22
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good job you had that other $150 worth of stuff just kicking around eh?
I mean I even said you can take the monitor out if you want and add in a case and PSU given I'd left them out of my first post.
It's right there in the post you quoted ( and I left out a mobo , so throw that in as well)
Those were earlier but they didn't drag on.
In the $300 range, I'd just rather go console at that price, tbh (which I did for the longest time)
Pop
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No you didn't. Upgrading and building a pc are two very different things. Yes, you can upgrade your pc parts to outperform new consoles with existing parts. No, you can't build a new pc to match consoles, price to performance.
Not everyone has spare parts and not everyone wants used parts.
Gormenghast
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It's interesting because this i3 + 750Ti is largely a myth.
On SOME cases you can almost match console levels. It's close. Just today Eurogamer said you need an i5 for that, on Project Cars.
There will be many factual cases where the i3 + 750 Ti just won't match PS4 quality. It's a terrible comparison.
On SOME cases you can almost match console levels. It's close. Just today Eurogamer said you need an i5 for that, on Project Cars.
There will be many factual cases where the i3 + 750 Ti just won't match PS4 quality. It's a terrible comparison.
Scully Scully Scoo
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game looks no where near as good as it did when first shown. heavy downgrade
Super Stardust
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Übermatik;163444417 said:
DC as in DriveClub? Someone did that?
Should have spent more so you could read the screen.
alife
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CpcmjX
So 300 British Pounds according to Eurogamer, which is $463.14? Try $302.94. A new hard drive (can get away with SATA1 and less than 500GB capacity) + operating system (Win 7 Home Premium - $99) will still be less than buying a new TV for the console. You can also get an ATX mid tower case on Newegg for 20 bucks.
The quality of my screen has nothing to do with my negligence. It was an "oopsy" and I wear prescription glasses which are not on my face at the moment. Still doesn't change the fact of what I just posted above.
Whata re you on?
In MOST cases it's beating a PS4. In the rest fo case it's matching one, and only in a couple of cases it's doing less.
Let's not start inventing tales now, you're coming off a bit salty here.
OmegaDL50
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I'd say the sweet spot for a PC tower price would be just under $1k
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QpCtdC
If you have a Microcenter near by you can probably knock off another $150 to $200 so that would drive the price down to about $800.
I fully built my current PC back in 2012 for just under $800, and the only thing carried over was a HDD and the Optical Drive from a previous PC, and I'd say replacing everything but the HDD and DVD burner isn't an upgrade, It is basically full on rebuild.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/OmegaDL50/builds/#view=T8TH99
In fact dare I say my next built I'll be reusing the case and DVD burner again.
I'll probably dump the HDDs and go full SSD when I rebuild again in 2017.
Every 5 years, a rebuild, that is my plan. I built a PC in 2007, I did so again in 2012, and the trend will follow in 2017. It's like a console upgrade for me.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QpCtdC
If you have a Microcenter near by you can probably knock off another $150 to $200 so that would drive the price down to about $800.
I fully built my current PC back in 2012 for just under $800, and the only thing carried over was a HDD and the Optical Drive from a previous PC, and I'd say replacing everything but the HDD and DVD burner isn't an upgrade, It is basically full on rebuild.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/OmegaDL50/builds/#view=T8TH99
In fact dare I say my next built I'll be reusing the case and DVD burner again.
I'll probably dump the HDDs and go full SSD when I rebuild again in 2017.
Every 5 years, a rebuild, that is my plan. I built a PC in 2007, I did so again in 2012, and the trend will follow in 2017. It's like a console upgrade for me.
Garou
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No SSD?! You dun goofed!
Gave me a chuckle
how could i disagree.....
edit, for pc price post here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1041742&highlight=pc+price
Sanctuary
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Funny how that comes out to around $450 USD...
haha, nah, I didn't feel like spending the $$ on SSD. I just needed the space, tbh.
Sanctuary
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If you've never used a PC with an SSD, you have absolutely no idea what you're missing. Even if you don't put your games on it (and you should put those select few that you play a lot), it's just overall a huge improvement over a mechanical drive for speed. I still use my "pretty good" gaming PC that I built in 2009 for various things, but it doesn't have an SSD like my newer system. It's sometimes unbearably slow in comparison.
It's like the difference between console loading times and a typical gaming PC with mechanical drives.
oh snap, I think that'll be my next purchase. I just really wanted to keep this price low so it doesn't feel as bad, if you know what I mean.
Skateboard P
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I was hoping that this wouldnt be a thing with this game. I'm thinking on getting it anyway.
shacklesmcgee
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* PC does not come with case, hard drive, operating system, keyboard or mouse.
Here's Gamersyde's video of the E3 2014 Sword of Destiny trailer: http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_the_witcher_3_wild_hunt_the_sword_of_destiny-32222_en.htmlr
While it might not be "fair" to compare the 2013 trailer with the final PC version, one would think the open world / gameplay segments of the 2014 trailer would be pretty representative of what Ultra settings would be like on a good gaming PC.
ColonialRaptor
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Can someone please explain to me where this meme came from? I can't find it on any search engines... Just lots of uses of it.
Mad Season
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SSD is standard nowadays. youre missing out
ColonialRaptor
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You've got to remember that the original release date was back in early 2014 so they would have had a pretty good running code at the time I would image.
Yea, those hypothetical people you just made up are so annoying, right?
I think Miyazaki said that about anime.
He didn't actually say that about anime. It was a joke that came from some criticisms he had of anime culture.
Lmao, I don't even know how this started.
Anyway I don't think the downgrade is as big as a deal as watchdogs was, at least TW3 still looks like a next gen game.
Sanctuary
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=163439206&postcount=2013 < Chinese Steam Machine is the only thing at that price that can do this. Not including shipping costs.
Then some random $450 PC that doesn't count all of the additionals you'd have to buy when building a new system article was linked as some kind of Mythbuster's proof.
Even if you have spare parts and an operating system lying around, it's disingenuous to act as though those were free when you first ended up with them as well.
Gave me a chuckle
amazing
ugh_the_boot
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Don't see why it's ok to rag on Ubisoft (my least fave devs/publishers) but not CDPR. I think the fanboys need to take a step back or stay out of this thread. I think the differences are huge and need to be brought into light. I think CDPR are just like most other companies....money first everything else comes after so if they can bullshit their way into a few more sales they will jump at the opportunity.
Wonder when all this bullshot advertising will end? Infact does anyone even know where it began, like the first company to ever do it? I'd imagine it would've been over a decade ago but it would've been since 3d games came about as it's almost impossible to do this with 2d games and not have people notice it immediately.
Wonder when all this bullshot advertising will end? Infact does anyone even know where it began, like the first company to ever do it? I'd imagine it would've been over a decade ago but it would've been since 3d games came about as it's almost impossible to do this with 2d games and not have people notice it immediately.
Sanctuary
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It probably started before last gen, but last gen really emphasized it due to how popular gaming in general became to the masses. It had way more advertisements and media coverage, so bullshots became rather ubiquitous.
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