Koji Igarashi Kickstarts Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night (2.5D, backdash, 2018)
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papercan55
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that's great but it needs the wine glass smash as he says it's nothing but trash..
Honestly with more variable modules and artwork, one of those huge random dungeons would be awesome to explore. The problem with daggerfall is the lack of variety coupled with a horrible map system.
Vire
Member
Nah, not buying it. Even if they were represented with anime character models, the atmosphere, tone and design/use of colors is entirely different.
This
Feels nothing like this to me:
There's a very flat, shaded, comic book style to the art of Bloodstained that I find very unappealing, where the art in recent Castlevania games is mostly much grittier and more interested in individually detailed environmental textures. The assault of bright colors just doesn't fit a gothic environment in my opinion.
This is why I wish they showed more than three concept art slides of the same environment before asking me to put down money of their game.
The art style right? Yeah...hopefully by making it 2.5D it won't look like that, and still look good...hopefully.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
And if they want to, more power to them. But experimenting and creating new forms of gameplay is what I look for, not just rehashing what has worked before with a new coat of paint. It's why I'm a huge fan of Nintendo - and before you stop reading after how inane that statement is, yes, they rehash many of their biggest franchises, but they also do new things and create new concepts like Project: Steam and Splatoon. Do these concepts work? Not all of the time. But I'm glad that they are at least trying to change things up a bit.
One thing's for sure, if Miyamoto was to ever leave Nintendo, he sure as hell wouldn't start a Kickstarter for his new platformer, Excellent Giuseppi Siblings.
Kudo
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Reposting the higher res concept art someone posted earlier, maybe it should be added to first post so people can see more clearer look on the style.
They're using UE4 and only current-gen consoles/PC so if all goes right the 2.5D might even look better than this in motion, I'm hyped.
They're using UE4 and only current-gen consoles/PC so if all goes right the 2.5D might even look better than this in motion, I'm hyped.
alfredofroylan
Member
TBH I prefer the first art design, remainds me of Muramasa (one of the best games of the last generation)
I have no qualms trusting Inticreates with money. They've made enough games I've enjoyed in the past for me not to be skeptical. We have no idea how Mighty No. 9 will turn out until it gets released in full but I wasn't one of those who were confused by the concept art so I didn't start vomiting blood when I saw the first footage. A lot of people's current anger towards Inticreates can be traced back to that and some of the ways Comcept/Inafune asked for additional funding later for other stuff people didn't feel was needed like voice acting. The TV series pitch, again a Compcet thing, also rubbed people the wrong way even though it was using no Kickstarter money.
Generic school girl? WUT? She's clearly "patterned" from/an expy of Shanoa:
She's not exactly Shanoa but the inspiration is pretty clear. Like its fine if you don't like it but enough with the meaningless buzzwords (nor do all Castlevania protagonists fit the "fighter" motif like Maria or Soma).
Sword Familiar
178% of NeoGAF posters don't understand statistics
I have to say, it's really cool watching Igarashi play games on the stream. He's a really cool guy.
Holy Order Sol
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that glass toss alone is worth money
Purple Cheeto
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Iga doesn't specify but the video makes it pretty obvious that he's already sold this game to a publisher and the publisher is just waiting to see how the KS goes and then they kick in the real money to make this game.
theSlacker
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Choosing between $150 and $250. I don't really care about the shirt, but I am a super sucker for boxes. An extra $100 for a box though...halp...
Why do the cool map incentives always have to be so high up? Same reason why I didn't get the map with the Torment kickstarter even though I loves them..
Why do the cool map incentives always have to be so high up? Same reason why I didn't get the map with the Torment kickstarter even though I loves them..
Ok so just so we're all aware, I'm posting this from the Kickstarter page's FAQ for my own peace of mind:
"WHY 2.5D?
IGA decided to go with 2.5D for this project for both financial and artistic reasons. All decisions in game development involve trade-offs, and for Bloodstained a 2.5D world built on Unreal Engine 4 was the right choice to balance development time, graphical fidelity, budget, and scope. [...]"
https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/00...9&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&
Please note the "All images are concept art, not actual in-game screens. Not representative of final product"
We good? Everyone sees dat shit right on the KS page? Ok.
"WHY 2.5D?
IGA decided to go with 2.5D for this project for both financial and artistic reasons. All decisions in game development involve trade-offs, and for Bloodstained a 2.5D world built on Unreal Engine 4 was the right choice to balance development time, graphical fidelity, budget, and scope. [...]"
https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/00...9&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&
Please note the "All images are concept art, not actual in-game screens. Not representative of final product"
We good? Everyone sees dat shit right on the KS page? Ok.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Yeah, I'd love to see more veteran developers turn to Kickstarter and do something that doesn't look like it's imitating their previous work. Even if it's in the same genre, it'd be nice if it at least changed up the setting some.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Ok.
Woolfe - The Red Hood Diaries
Red Goddess
Or other games like Abyss Odyssey looks much better, if you don't want to accept the superior amount of funding MN9 got compared these games.
Dictator93
Member
Are a bunch of people in here trying to convince themselves that Castlevania wasn't anime since basically forever (classic vania excluded)?
Because it has been anime since then... quite obviously.
Because it has been anime since then... quite obviously.
I have no qualms trusting Inticreates with money. They've made enough games I've enjoyed in the past for me not to be skeptical. We have no idea how Mighty No. 9 will turn out until it gets released in full but I wasn't one of those who were confused by the concept art so I didn't start vomiting blood when I saw the first footage. A lot of people's current anger towards Inticreates can be traced back to that and some of the ways Comcept/Inafune asked for additional funding later for other stuff people didn't feel was needed like voice acting. The TV series pitch, again a Compcet thing, also rubbed people the wrong way even though it was using no Kickstarter money.
Generic school girl? WUT? She's clearly "patterned" from/an expy of Shanoa:
She's not exactly Shanoa but the inspiration is pretty clear. Like its fine if you don't like it but enough with the meaningless buzzwords (nor do all Castlevania protagonists fit the "fighter" motif like Maria or Soma).
Damn that character looks so cool.
Triggerhappytel
Member
$336k already, holy shit. I'm not backing this as I have little attachment to the historic Castlevania games, but I'd like Iga to do well as one of the progenitors of the genre. Hopefully it will fare better than Mighty No. 9 has done so far.
Sword Familiar
178% of NeoGAF posters don't understand statistics
He understands very little English.
I just want the art book but paying $150 for an art-book is WHOOOOOOOOOO. No. They can't make the art-book digital and put it on the Steam release or something? IGA plz.
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Deleted member 47027
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That's really the plan for a lot of people. Pandering to disposable income folks with the only memorable cinema in Castlevania's storied life.
I sound too negative, but this whole thing smacks of a marketing department challenge of doing a lot with very little. I have to say they were very successful as this is on track to do a lot and help the director himself get to be more well-known. Leveraging his name in the genre now was a very powerful trick.
OoE (The best modern CV game) took a huge step away from the anime influence.
Vire
Member
Ah man, these are so good... I never played Order of Ecclesia. I should get around to it!
cireza
Member
Yeah but this Inti Creates. What experience do they have in creating amazing high definition 2.5D graphics ? And Inti Creates is a small team.
Sadly, I have zero confidence that they can deliver on that aspect. Their most recent work in this domain is Mighty 9 after all.
Asking Inti Creates to make such a game makes no sense. They are great at low resolution sprite based 2D, that's it.
That's what I was worried about. I know it's quite popular but I actually stopped playing Muramasa because I really didn't like the artstyle. Hopefully it will look different in 2.5D (for me).
Nightengale
Member
For all intents and purpose, it is a different game.
Just the fact that the game revolves around a curse that gives your body multi-coloured glass panels imply that it's presumably going to have a less muted use of colour, and closer to stuff like this :
I get what you're saying, but I also get why the tone of Bloodstained is different.
I think that's a fair pitch. I mean this game actually having publisher funding would go a long way.
ioriyagami
Member
It is just concept art, there are no graphics yet...
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Honestly the non-concept art renders look like Hirooka Masaki art. Noses, coloring, and the drawings in general look similar.
Kudo
Member
I agree with you but after watching the stream I can't help it but to feel positive.
Not going to pledge anything though before we see the game.
Haruka
Member
Does anyone what font is being used for "Bloodstained"?
You know what would be interesting, A Igavania game, that has layered 2D maps.
Like maps on top of maps
Like in Valkyrie Profile for example
Instead going into room after room traversing left or right, there were also doors into the background and foreground you could go into and it would be it's own separate map layer.
I would have liked another 2D game to use this style of exploration / map progression.
That would be great! Exploration in Valkyrie Profile was top notch, as was the soundtrack. Several time during the game I've found myself thinking "damn this feels as good as a Castlevania"
Dictator93
Member
Something awesome.
Yup, character portraits from backers totally cheapen games. Was really disappointed to see it here. I'm totally ok w/ developer portraits, provided they fit the games aesthetics, because they MADE the game, but some dude who coughed over X-amount of money? No thanks.
You know what would be interesting, A Igavania game, that has layered 2D maps.
Like maps on top of maps
Like in Valkyrie Profile for example
Instead going into room after room traversing left or right, there were also doors into the background and foreground you could go into and it would be it's own separate map layer.
I would have liked another 2D game to use this style of exploration / map progression.
I always figured something like that would be great for secret passages. Something that connects 2+ rooms that would otherwise require much more circuitous navigation. Maybe a secret passageway that the item merchant is using, which would explain why he can get from point A to B faster than you can, and if you pay him enough money, he lets you use his hidden network.
That one's free, iga
TheFNEffecT
Member
YES!! This may be the first kickstarter I will back.
whiteninja
Member
This might be the first time I ever use kickstarter. That Alchemist treasure tier is so tempting...
Also I wonder what they mean with this under the "What about Nintendo part":
Also I wonder what they mean with this under the "What about Nintendo part":
They won't (luckily). Read the pitch, they are pretty damn explicit about it.