Lee Chaolan
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Holy shit, boom goes the dynamite. Little harsher than I expected, but there ya go.
You knew they couldn't do shit about the Super Bowl victory
You knew they couldn't do shit about the Super Bowl victory
Tom Brady suspended for 4 games; Patriots lose first-round draft pick; fined $1 mil
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Balance of probabilities is the standard of proof required. Simply that something was more likely than not to have transpired. It's not a criminal investigation.
PhantomZone
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Cheaters never prosper
CassidyIzABeast
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Btw, he's gonna play in that Cowboys game. Dem ratings.
Syph Medwes
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Yeah this is an absolute farce. "not a court of law" you got that right lol
RumblingRosco
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Except when they do.
TheKaeptain
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IT'S TIME.
VeryGooster
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Suspended more games than Aaron Hernandez.
how is weak? in fact Imo the whole thing is too harsh and they should appeal like now. Do not allow this.
Yeah, it's definitely getting knocked down to 2.
Ninja Of Chaos
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But that is not proof and not even close to a good enough argument. The Pats should challenge this until all the punishments are dropped completely.
Unknown Soldier
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I'm pretty sure the severity of the crime or lack thereof doesn't change the underlying culture and mentality in sports which causes problems like this. Let's not pretend the NFL doesn't have it's share of murderers, domestic abusers, and drug addicts. The persecution complex of fans whose teams and idolized athletes get caught and punished is a huge part of the problem.
entremet
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Did you read the report? They didn't have smoking gun, but it was proven that the balls were deflated intentionally.
Do you really think the ball boys were doing this on their own?
Tom is still the GOAT more or less. But rules are rules.
super-heated plasma
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That game even made Suh cry. Something I never expected to see. But he knew they were on the verge of winning, but the refs just couldn't let it happen. That's why he called it sickening.
bob_arctor
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Gray Matter
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Because deflated footballs or not, they still would have destroyed the colts. Nothing can change that.
I'm not endorsing cheating obviously, but the patriots were the better team.
Muppet of a Man
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Yes....hahaha.
I don't care how severe the offense is.
They were outright caught cheating in one of the biggest games of the season.
They were outright caught lying about it afterwards.
Tom Brady was even caught in a bold face lie about it.
So why are they getting what amounts to a slap on the wrist?
Put an * next to the win or take it away completely. Suspend Brady for an entire season and fine them heavily.
Send a clear message that cheating does not fly in the NFL, and if you're caught you will pay.
They were outright caught cheating in one of the biggest games of the season.
They were outright caught lying about it afterwards.
Tom Brady was even caught in a bold face lie about it.
So why are they getting what amounts to a slap on the wrist?
Put an * next to the win or take it away completely. Suspend Brady for an entire season and fine them heavily.
Send a clear message that cheating does not fly in the NFL, and if you're caught you will pay.
Banjo-Kazooie
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So Goddell is coming down in Rodgers too right? I mean, he did admit to it afterall
I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it,' Simms said Rodgers told them before the game.
I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it,' Simms said Rodgers told them before the game.
SliceSabre
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Wow its fucking nothing basically.
NFL sent a message that cheating is just fine.
NFL sent a message that cheating is just fine.
Except for the report completely exonerating the hoodie.
VeryGooster
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Ninja Of Chaos
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No, that wasn't proven either. It is most likely that it was intentional, sure.
And from that assumption, you then assume that it must be someone higher up, because....?
Jazzy Network
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I'll be honest, if my team cheated and got a championship out of it, I'd take it.
Megalosaro
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I'm gonna be at Brady's first home game? Hell yeah. The atmosphere is gonna be intense
Alligatorjandro
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#FreeBrady
entremet
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You really think ball boys getting paid 20k a year were orchestrating this thing?
It's a decent punishment. There's no witchhunt here.
TheLostBigBoss
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The NFL let them cheat for half of the AFC Championship game.
What does that say about
A) The NFL and how it views integrity?
B) How serious the crime was?
If you think this is a slap on the wrist, then you already have your mind made up. 4 games, a first round and fourth round is a huge punishment.
Epsilon-delta
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People still don't understand the meaning of preponderance of evidence?
Jazzy Network
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What if the atmosphere deflates his balls?
Ninja Of Chaos
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That's not what I said at all. I want to know what allows you to make the jump to "Brady!".
Kurt Angle
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they just won the owl
Probably because that would be even worse for the league.
darkazcura
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Wait why? That is a legitimate question. Some of you guys look at this stuff in such a weird, twisted way. Rodgers should be investigated and potentially punished for those comments also. The NFL has set the bar with this type of cheating with these punishments, and now they should follow up any other teams where this may have occurred. It's just logical. Not following up on those comments just makes this look like a witch hunt for one specific team.
It's the standard of proof in almost all civil cases in almost all jurisdictions across the world. They do not have prove anything beyond reasonable doubt, only that on the evidence, the occurrence of the event was more likely than not.
Even then I imagine the majority of the punishment is for failure to co-operate fully with the investigation.
Zen_Arcade
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As long as that four game suspension sticks and they don't let Brady appeal it to fewer games, that seems like an adequate punishment. They were never going to take away the title or put an asterisk in the record books, it would be too damaging to the NFL brand. But it's not like the rest of the country is ever going to let Brady and the Patriots forget that they see the title as tainted.
Jazzy Network
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Owls are awesome.
I'd say it's willful ignorance.
Banjo-Kazooie
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It's not like he didn't say it lmao.
I'm free to discuss it as its in the context of the story.
NFL cherry picks their fights and punishments as evident by the many examples in this thread already
It's obvious Brady deserved something, but to ignore other people that do it is funny
Should have been life.
The Black Sox, Pete Rose, and Tim Donaghy were all gone as soon as they got caught cheating. The Pats are still just fine after getting caught multiple times.
It's disgusting.
perfectchaos007
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The NCAA would have vacated their championship. NFL let the Pats and Brady off easy
bob_arctor
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