Daniel Bryan pulled from Euro tour (UPDATE: Concussion unrelated to prev injuries)

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Kusagari said:
John Cena wouldn't exist if that was true
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Baseball wouldn't exist if that were true either. Both are becoming bloated and stupid beyond the patience of most kids. I think we can all agree that nobody wants to watch a 3 hour baseball game or episode of RAW though.
 
Heroman said:
Era of the draw is over, WWE brand is more of a draw than the wrestlers, sad but true.
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It's mostly mismanagement. RAW for example as a show is far too long, and between that and Smackdown you see a constant recycling of matches which honestly get boring - along with the rather tired Authority gimmick.

Meanwhile, the midcard is full of people who can put on decent matches, but they're left on the shelf or thrown in as filler - Luke Harper for example could be a monster heel if they let him. Instead their favourite pet stars get the lions share of every single show, I'd love to see an episode without Cena in it for once, or Roman Reigns.

The saddest part of it is NXT, which has less experienced performers but *as a wrestling show* is far, far better. As soon as someone gets too good - yoink! Off you go to the main shows for a brief push and then an eternal shelf place on the mid card, or worse if they're female it's 3 minute 'matches' and having to appear on Total Divas.

I think it's time for Vince to step down, the company would be making more interesting content if Heyman was essentially handed full creative freedom and scheduling on a plate.
 
system11 said:
It's mostly mismanagement. RAW for example as a show is far too long, and between that and Smackdown you see a constant recycling of matches which honestly get boring - along with the rather tired Authority gimmick.

Meanwhile, the midcard is full of people who can put on decent matches, but they're left on the shelf or thrown in as filler - Luke Harper for example could be a monster heel if they let him. Instead their favourite pet stars get the lions share of every single show, I'd love to see an episode without Cena in it for once, or Roman Reigns.

The saddest part of it is NXT, which has less experienced performers but *as a wrestling show* is far, far better. As soon as someone gets too good - yoink! Off you go to the main shows for a brief push and then an eternal shelf place on the mid card, or worse if they're female it's 3 minute 'matches' and having to appear on Total Divas.

I think it's time for Vince to step down, the company would be making more interesting content if Heyman was essentially handed full creative freedom and scheduling on a plate.
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Fun fact: Because of the draw RAW had, Vince and WWE had input on which programming followed it on TNN/Spike, and could strike down a scheduled program if they didn't like it.

Paul Heyman basically went to Vince and said "You DO NOT want to let UFC air after RAW on the same network. Do not let UFC air after RAW if you know what's good for you." And Vince didn't listen.
 
All the management is fine. They're bringing in a ton of money, able to take big risks. If the product doesn't appeal to you that's fine - they're forging partnerships and staying relevant.
 
Heroman said:
You could say the same for wrestling
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That would be terrible, especially after WWE finally found a place where they could put Bryan and not have his fans keep foiling their plans.
 
Update:

As noted earlier, Daniel Bryan was sent home from the WWE European tour after last Tuesday's SmackDown taping in London. WWE then issued a statement, noting that Bryan was pulled from the tour "as a precautionary measure."

According to Dave Meltzer of F4WOnline, people on the tour said that Bryan suffered a concussion during his match with Sheamus on Smackdown a couple of weeks back. WWE was seemingly aware that Bryan was banged up after that match, as he had not worked any other singles matches since that show.

Meltzer mentioned that Bryan would not have been given the green light to compete if he had been diagnosed with a concussion, which would indicate that while they may have known he was hurt, they didn't figure out that it was a concussion until after this week's SmackDown tapings.
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So it sounds like it basically had nothing to do with his pre-existing injuries.
 
Kaiterra said:
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So it sounds like it basically had nothing to do with his pre-existing injuries.
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Let's not downplay the injury until we know the severity. As we know, WWE letting him work indicates nothing. MMA athlete TJ Grant has been sidelined for 2 years by a concussion suffered while rolling on the ground, with no return in sight.
 
Heel said:
Let's not downplay the injury until we know the severity. As we know, WWE letting him work indicates nothing. MMA athlete TJ Grant has been sidelined for 2 years by a concussion suffered while rolling on the ground, with no return in sight.
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Let us also remember those that have fallen before him due to concussions

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Now the word is that Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez are reporting that it is NOT a concussion (as WWE wouldn't let him even get in the ring if that were the case) and as of now Daniel Bryan is not booked for the upcoming PPV. There is a more serious issue going on and it is expected that Bryan will likely be written off of the PPV on Raw or Smackdown this week.


SOURCE: Observer Radio


So, the thread title should be changed again, I think.
 
Softgels said:
Now the word is that Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez are reporting that it is NOT a concussion (as WWE wouldn't let him even get in the ring if that were the case) and as of now Daniel Bryan is not booked for the upcoming PPV. There is a more serious issue going on and it is expected that Bryan will likely be written off of the PPV on Raw or Smackdown this week.


SOURCE: Observer Radio


So, the thread title should be changed again, I think.
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Well goddamn.
 
Heel said:
Let's not downplay the injury until we know the severity. As we know, WWE letting him work indicates nothing. MMA athlete TJ Grant has been sidelined for 2 years by a concussion suffered while rolling on the ground, with no return in sight.
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Don't lie to these people. Folks TJ Grant is not a real person. He is a Kojima game demo.
 
I think a mod really needs to change the thread title again. It was reported that it was NOT a concussion, that Bryan has been taken off the PPV, and wasn't even written off Raw...he just wasn't on it at all.


The original title was more accurate.
 
Softgels said:
I think a mod really needs to change the thread title again. It was reported that it was NOT a concussion, that Bryan has been taken off the PPV, and wasn't even written off Raw...he just wasn't on it at all.


The original title was more accurate.
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Well he definitely appears done, which is a shame. I guess they're just waiting for a free moment to relieve himself of the IC belt and dial it down to 0.

Really a shame. He could be good as a host on Tough Enough.
 
"Sensational thread title" they said. "jumping to conclusions" they said. "too far fetched"

WWE Intercontinental Champion Daniel Bryan announced on tonight's RAW from Cincinnati that he is relinquishing the title.

Bryan said he had a MRI last week and doctors do not know how long he will be out - it could be weeks, months or Bryan may never wrestle again.

Bryan noted that he has spent the past few weeks in and out of doctors offices and requested to come out on RAW to vacate the title.

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And there goes what little interest I had left in the WWE.

What a sad turn of events.
 
So Punk quit, Bryan's retired, Cena's managed to get himself stuck in midcard hell, Lesnar only works 3 times a year, the current schtick with Rollins as a cowardly heel champion who worms his way out of losing the title isn't getting over and literally no one else in the company is a real draw anymore because WWE hasn't legitimately made a new start since Batista in 2005. Only one man can save them from WCW 2000 ratings now...

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Froli said:
Are you sure, I thought he is doing well (based on some posts lol)
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Ratings are tanking, but that's more because Mania is done and WWE has been objectively shit since summer and more and more people are tuning out of Raw since the program is mostly forgettable.*

*Speculative on my part
 
thepotatoman said:
And there goes what little interest I had left in the WWE.

What a sad turn of events.
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Yep, him and Brock are the only two wrestlers I'm invested in, to the point that I only watched their matches this past Wrestlemania. It's a shame because it's obviously a talented roster but I have zero connection to them.
 
At least last year we could point to NXT and say, "At least we still have great things going on in developmental."

But with half the NXT roster decimated even that's no longer the case.
 
UberTag said:
At least last year we could point to NXT and say, "At least we still have great things going on in developmental."

But with half the NXT roster decimated even that's no longer the case.
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It's time for the glory of Corbin to rise to the top.

Also:

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BULL

(Yeah, things aren't looking great at the moment. Here's hoping to some sensible booking decisions.)
 
UberTag said:
At least last year we could point to NXT and say, "At least we still have great things going on in developmental."

But with half the NXT roster decimated even that's no longer the case.
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Who even cares about WWE when we have Lucha Underground.
 
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